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Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - DeeAgeaux
Oct 8, 2011 12:10 AM
Good_Sleep wrote:

$2800 for an unproven product is a lot of money.  

She is not  paying $2800 for an unproven product.

Alot  of that budget is for the adjustable base,probably an L&P.

Serta IComfort is unproven,that is why it is so much cheaper than a comparable TP.

My first generic memory foam mattress lasted 12 years.

My next mattress is DIY version of the Grand Bed with Foamex pieces.

I have had it for four years and expect it will last at least 12 years total.

It has been almost 20 years for memory foam mattresses in the USA.

TP was founded in 1992.

You can't live on hype alone for that many years.

If the beds were horrible they would be almost no market for them instead of a...

Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - Sall
Oct 8, 2011 3:41 AM
DeeAgeaux wrote:

You can't live on hype alone for that many years.


Not sure about that one.  We see it all around us, and not just in the mattress industry. 

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Re: What makes a bed 'hot'? - slpngoc
Oct 9, 2011 10:41 AM
I would guess sleeping directly on a piece of foam would make it hot.  You'd want a least a cotton cover, but most have a quilted cover. I tried a memory foam topper with cotton cover and that things was just cooking me.  That's why mattress quilts are usually the first layers against a body.

Mattress quilt consists of a cover material - type of cotton, or something else.  I don't know what the filling is in most conventional beds, but it is the stuff that has fire retardant in it.  Look at the ads - something like  'Hypersoft FR' material (example of Stearns and Foster).  It's maybe a mix of polyester / cotton batting.  The stuff generally sleeps pretty darn cool and it probably low cost, but it's not comfortable enough for me to lay on this right shoulder of mine.

Your organic mattresses will usually...

Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - slpngoc
Oct 7, 2011 3:20 PM
gdulaney wrote:

Great feedback.... we'll look at the cloud model and see how it feels.

 

Do you like having an adjustable base? My biggest concern is the motor going out.

Thanks :)
Ginny

About the motor, I actually lean up while the motor is lifting the bed.  sounds like less stress on the motor.   The motors job is chill when lowering, but they work when lifting.  The warranty is only 1 year full part/labor, 2 years parts/no labor, then on your own. 

Having an adjustable base is certainly better than no adjustable, but not yet sure I will keep it.  For me, it is definitely better to adjust the head and foot sections up a little bit while lying on back.  However, I really don't...

Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - slpngoc
Oct 4, 2011 7:10 PM
gdulaney wrote:

Those aren't our only choices. :)

 

We didn't see any Tempurpedics in that range. Any suggestions on which one to check out?

The S&F was just close to what we slept on on the ship....granted it was only 5 nights, but when you're used to cruddy sleep and you sleep all night....well, it's a big deal.

Thank you


No surprise that I will say check out the Tempurpedic Cloud, 'cause that's what I'm diggin'.   A Queen on fixed foundation comes out $1999 + tax.  For the adjustable, I say go advanced ergo, because it is so much more convenient to have presets, four of them.  Just press the number and it goes into position.  To have to adjust...

Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - slpngoc
Oct 4, 2011 2:59 PM
You may have read my posts before about the iComfort Revolution.  I know because I had one for over 4 weeks.  I was drawn into the Revolution because it is very very plush and I really need to 'easy on joints' feel of memory foam.

I knew the Revolution allowed me to sink a lot into it - as I sat on it, siiiiiink, butt sinks in far. 

Try this, when you lay on it, feel how much the mattress curves down under your hips / rear end.  IMO, you don't want to sink in too much.  I don't think it should feel too soft.  It's inviting, but it can invite problems as well.

what happened for me was subtle - after couple nights had to get up, was too hot in bed.  I shelved the comforter at that point which I could always...

Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - intellibedfan
Oct 6, 2011 7:17 PM
i-comfort and the cloud are both memory foam products. The cloud is TempurPedics newest version of memory foam and i-comfort is Serta's version with gel to reduce some of the heat transfer problems associated with memory foam. Durability testing shows that memory foam will soften with use. Even TempurPedic's warranty states this. The softeneing will cause a loss of alignment support and many people have to replace the beds within 8 years. Leggatt and Platt  the leading supplier to the mattress industry has tested memory foam and states it will change 17% with use. This is better than other foams like latex (-24%) and regular poly foam (-49%). All of these foams off-gas as they wear which bothers some sleepers especially those with allergies. The best cushioning material tested for durability is intelli-gel which is a space age co-polymer gel that only showed 4.5% change over the life of the...
Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - gdulaney
Oct 5, 2011 3:55 AM
Great feedback.... we'll look at the cloud model and see how it feels.

Do you like having an adjustable base? My biggest concern is the motor going out.

Thanks :)
Ginny

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Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - gdulaney
Oct 4, 2011 4:27 PM
Those aren't our only choices. :)

We didn't see any Tempurpedics in that range. Any suggestions on which one to check out?

The S&F was just close to what we slept on on the ship....granted it was only 5 nights, but when you're used to cruddy sleep and you sleep all night....well, it's a big deal.

Thank you

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Re: Stearns & Foster Plush Euro-top VS Serta iComfort Revolution - Vlaurend
Oct 9, 2011 1:20 PM
After getting rid of our Sealy Posturpedic plush pillowtop mattress (which was terribly saggy after 7 years), we just saved a lot of money and got a better quality product by buying a medium firm (not plush) mattress set and adding our own toppers instead of a pillowtop.  Plush pillowtop mattresses tend to have the shortest lifespan, both because the springs are softer/thinner and because the pillowtop is made of cheap, soft foams that wear out quickly.  If you buy your own toppers, you can get higher quality materials (we bought a 2" layer of zoned convoluted memory foam and a 3" layer of soft latex + foam) and just add layers until you get the perfect amount of cushion.  Meanwhile, the mattress underneath the toppers will be firm enough that it won't sag or suck you both into a crater in the middle of the bed.  If you need...

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