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New Flobeds VZone Bed arrives in Toronto, ON Canada - Jazzsinger777
Dec 21, 2010 4:41 PM
Hey Gang,

Just wanted to let you know that on Dec 6, 2010 I made the plunge and bought the Natural VZone 0 Natural Talalay Latex Green Mattress from Flobeds.  Dewey shipped it out on Friday Dec 10, 2010 and 3 of 4 boxes arrived in Toronto, ON via USPS/Canada Post in 5, that is right ... count them 5 days on Dec 15, 2010.  The 4th box arrived here on Dec 21, 2010.  Dewey told me it would take between 6 - 10 business days.  I was quite happy to have the fourth box arrive.

Everything arrived in great shape.

My wife and I were able to assemble it ... that was fun ... really ... and have an interrupted sleep as my son had a cold and kept waking up ... but the sleep I did get was deep.

I...

Re: Best organic latex mattress? - budgy
Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM
Without having laid on many of these options available to the US customer base, all I can say is that when you are looking for the 'best' there is a lot more to consider than just the rubber being used.  The base system, the quality of the cotton covers and wool being used.  One thing I have to tell people all the time even though I sell a LOT of organic product is that, just because something is organic does not mean it is made to high quality standards.  On the very high end of things the covers themselves are often as expensive to make as the rubber cores that are put inside.  If you think Savvy Rest is expensive look at OMI Organic Mattresses.  

I personally believe after looking at all of the highest quality finished mattresses available, the best overall quality (comfort not guaranteed by...

Re: Need some help finding latex dealers in Chicago land! - Phoenix
Jan 3, 2011 10:39 AM
I posted a smaller list in a previous thread but two of the outlets included there have gone out of business. Must be tough "mattress times" in Chicago. Here is a slightly larger list for Illinois but I will leave you to determine which of these may be close enough or have retail outlets that are close enough. They are not in any kind of "priority" order but there some very good values here.

Phoenix

http://www.bendermattress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=21 Local manfacturer. Makes a range of mattresses but not a lot in the way of latex it seems. Worth calling for more details.

http://www.clarebedding.com/dealers.asp Regional manufacturer. Licensee for Restonic, Eclipse, and Eastman house. Makes ttheir own line called Platinum Dreams. Make several latex mattreses with no poly on top. has a retail outlet finder on website for outlets in Illinois.

http://www.pmbedroomgallery.com/locations/index.cfm Retailer. A...

Re: Best organic latex mattress? - Phoenix
Dec 29, 2010 5:52 PM
Savvy rest is no more "organic" than many of the choices that are popular and have been written about extensively in the forum. They also use the same materials from the same suppliers (Sleep Comp and others) that many others do ... and yet they charge 50% + more than other outlets.

According to their website (although some of their retailer outlets sell for less than their website prices) they charge $3139 for a 9" Talalay latex mattress in a queen. This is widely available in many other places for under $1900 (being generous here) and in some cases less. While talalay does come in "non blended" natural versions ... there is no certified organic Talalay available. In spite of this ... many people prefer using Talalay latex, especially in the comfort layers of a mattress, because it can be made softer and in some constructions can be...

Re: Please help with topper , wool or foam? - Phoenix
Dec 24, 2010 12:05 PM
Bobkat,

With your mattress, I would be looking for a foam that would allow for cradling and pressure relief, not wool at all. While wool may feel soft initially, it does not form a cradle and as it compresses it's ability to cradle and relieve pressure becomes even less. This is different than mattresses that use tufting to keep the wool "plumped up" in the mattress construction but even here they are not as inherantly pressure relieving as a material that will form a cradle and distribute weight. Once you have found the answer to pressure relief then I would consider adding a thin layer of wool on top to see if the pressure relief remains. In another thread, Leo has just completely removed her wool because even though it was thin and loose, it prevented the underlying 4" of soft latex from doing it's job well enough.

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Re: Please help with topper , wool or foam? - Phoenix
Dec 23, 2010 1:44 PM
Well I can see why your mattress is "a bit firm" for side sleeping lol. It's a good base for putting something over but I am imagining that it feels more like "softwood". The fiberboard is a densified polyester fiber and while I haven't laid on this material directly, I would imagine it was very firm, especially on top of firm springs.

A softer latex topper could very well feel as soft as memory foam for you depending on how far you sank in. You are probably sinking right through the memory foam and feeling the firm mattress underneath. The ability of latex to relieve pressure is similar to memory foam but the difference in support is much larger. You would tend to "hammock" much less with softer latex since it will "stop the sinking" and "push back" more than memory foam. Even poly will do the same...

Re: Help w/ Selecting Mattress Topper - Phoenix
Dec 19, 2010 12:15 PM
I'm going to reply to both threads here as it's a little difficult for me to go back and forth (get confused easily lol).

Your comments about not wanting to "sink in" and sleeping hot pretty much rule out using memory foam as a top layer in a mattress.

The Madison only has 2" latex so it needs a layer underneath that is not quite as firm to act as part of the comfort layer. It's sort of a compromise and given the feedback about the acella-flex not "coming back", I would tend to avoid it. Poly doesn't usually do well when it's compressed for a long period of time and these have almost certainly been shipped compressed from China where Classic brands has a factory.

I took some time last night to "analyze" the construction of the greenhurst and it is surprisingly well...

Re: Latex in St. Pete (FL) - Phoenix
Dec 18, 2010 10:09 PM
OK, here's a few more that are either in St. Petersburg or reasonably close.

http://www.originalmattress.com/locations Regional manufacturer. I'm including this even though the closest is Kimsimmee because they have great value.

http://www.restonicflorida.com/products.htm National manufacturer. I'm including this one because they build all the Restonic in FL and they are one of the "better" national brands in some areas (they are different in different areas). If you come across Restonic anywhere this will give you a way to check what's in it.

http://www.pittsburghmattressfactory.com/ Local manufacturer in Ellenton

http://www.panachemattress.com/about.html They are a specialty manufacturer usually available through retail outlets. They have a latex/poly and memory foam line. Good for testing out what construction feels good but are often priced more than I would pay. They would probably give you the names of retail outlets that carry them near you

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Re: Help w/ Selecting Mattress Topper - sawdin
Dec 19, 2010 2:58 PM
Phoenix,

Thanks again.  I think I'll stick w/ the Sealy Greenhurst Firm as it should hold up quite well and I'll just consider the extra cost to be an 'insurance policy', lol.

I know that I'll have to wait until I sleep on it for a few weeks before deciding if I need a topper, and what I actually need it for.  However, I'm pretty sure I'll get some type of topper and I'd like to continue my research.  My guess is that I'll need a bit of 'pressure relief' along with a bit of support under my lumbar region.  If I wanted to combine a latex topper (say 1" of Talatech) with a memory foam product (say 1" of Celsion or 1.5" of Aerus, which is quite inexpensive), would I get the benefits of the viscous property of the MF if I put it under...

Re: Help w/ Selecting Mattress Topper - sawdin
Dec 19, 2010 5:08 AM
Phoenix,

 

Thanks for the replies and links (and also for posting your 'Pro's and Con's' thread which I read).  I had called OK mattress yesterday and the person I spoke to said they do not have NuForm toppers, though from their website it looks like they took some of the exact wording from the NuForm info at LI).  He then tried to sell me a latex topper.  I'll call back on Monday and dig a little deeper.  I had seen the Beloit site earlier today but I didn't get a chance to call.  They definitely use NuForm in some of their mattresses, so I'll call them Monday.  I'll ask about why they use it, and how, and try to get some info on density/ILD.  If NuForm sounds great and it isn't too expensive, maybe I'll try to get them to sell me a topper.

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