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Re: Looking for a non-toxic, PBDE-free, comfortable, durable mattress - sandman
Jul 20, 2010 2:50 PM
Flobeds claims that they don't use any chemicals (just organic wool) to pass the FR standards.  There is no way for any of outsiders to be able to prove whether or not that is true, unless you take the mattress cover to an outside service for testing.

 I am sure that other companies make the same claim.

If you don't believe them or others, you could buy the latex seperately and just put an organic mattress pad over it (by Natura for example).   I don't think they have to pass any tests for just the mattress pad/protector.  That would not give you a nice zippered up mattress cover to hold it all nicely, but I don't think that would be a problem.  Latex holds in place pretty well.

 

 
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Re: Initial success !!! "Zoned" "Hybrid" Toppers for Male 170lb Side/Back Sleeper w lower back problems!!! - shovel99
Jul 18, 2010 9:05 AM
Here is the link to the 1 inch 4 lb memory foam at www.overstock.com:

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Enviro-Green-Memory-Foam-1-inch-Mattress-Topper/3657732/product.html

 

www.foambymail.com    20 ILD Latex Mattress toppers, queen sizes are here (I used 1 inch x 2 thicknesses for bottom 2/3):

 

http://www.foambymail.com/LatexTQueen.html

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Re: Looking for a non-toxic, PBDE-free, comfortable, durable mattress - budgy
Jul 22, 2010 2:49 PM
If a cotton cover or the wool batting that is used is certified organic this requires testing.  Some companies like Eco Institut actually test the entire mattress for chemical content and will list specific amounts of VOC's detected if any at all.  One thing to keep in mind is that there is no such thing as organic foam as foaming agents always have to be added. However in a actual organic mattress by definition these covers and the fibre layers underneath cannot be treated with anything else.  There was one company out of the pack that admitted to using silica content...I cannot remember their name unfortunately however most companies would be happy to provide a sample of their wool for self inspection...the presence of silica would be immediately detectable by hand.

There are no Organic mattresses I know of that actually use cotton batting, just cotton covers with...

Re: Looking for a non-toxic, PBDE-free, comfortable, durable mattress - budgy
Jul 21, 2010 1:54 PM
There are many certified organic mattress makers that do not use chemical flame retardants....wool is used as the barrier....if someone was allergic to the wool some companies will allow you to buy the bed without wool with a doctors note. 

Royal Pedic, Green Sleep, Natura, I believe Savvy Rest, Organic Pedic, and many others do not use these chemicals in their organic mattresses.

Strobel seems to be marketing hardcore just as much as the S brands....of course wool burns.....but it has a higher burning point than formaldehyde which is the FR of choice in most foams and polyester fibres.  The CFR 1633 regulations that have everyone in an upheaval are simply stating that to pass the fire test that there is a certain rate of heat release...not that a mattress literally be fireproofed.  Also the wool they lit on fire in their test is yarn being...

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress - moneysworth4us
Jul 12, 2010 10:36 AM
blingo99 wrote:

  Plus I’m leery of sleeping on anything not made to U.S. health standards.
 


I enjoyed reading your experience! Thank you for sharing yes

I got a chuckle though about your quote above...do we really "have standards" in this country when it comes to health? Or is it more about the green back and what it will draw in? I think our country is approving more and more things as "safe" when they truly are not. No, I'm not an environmentalist (or a liberal) by any means. I just know for a fact that people, young and old, are being affected by what we sleep on, consume and breathe, on a daily basis...yet nothing seems to be changing for the better....things just cost more to be healthier. It's sad really.

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Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress - blingo99
Jul 13, 2010 8:07 AM
sandman wrote:

On synthetic vs. 100% natural:  at least one poster here compared the 2 and found that the 100% natural has higher density (and probably resiliency), so it gave better support.  So, I think there might be some benefit to the 100% natural.   Still, I think the blended product from Latex International is pretty good.

 

 

On the cover: many have found that having some wool over the latex can make it sleep a bit cooler.   I am one of those.  So, paying for a mattress cover made of cotton and wool that helps protect the latex from the elements, helps hold it together, and helps one sleep cooler is probably worth $200-300 for most.  Probably a simple (and washable) cotton mattress pad over that would be sufficient.  Personally I use a washable...

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress - blingo99
Jul 12, 2010 4:35 PM
moneysworth4us wrote:

 


I enjoyed reading your experience! Thank you for sharing yes

I got a chuckle though about your quote above...do we really "have standards" in this country when it comes to health? Or is it more about the green back and what it will draw in? I think our country is approving more and more things as "safe" when they truly are not. No, I'm not an environmentalist (or a liberal) by any means. I just know for a fact that people, young and old, are being affected by what we sleep on, consume and breathe, on a daily basis...yet nothing seems to be changing for the better....things just cost more to be healthier. It's sad really.

Cat pee....eww...VERY bad!

Re: Looking for a non-toxic, PBDE-free, comfortable, durable mattress - lightningbug
Jul 21, 2010 8:27 PM
Budgy,

Thanks so much for replying to my post. I am glad to hear that there are many good options out there for a cleaner, healthier bed. Jasmine mentioned that when she pressed some of the companies that make mattresses that purportedly meet the flammability requirements through wool, some of them admitted to using chemicals such as teflon, boric acid, and silica. I know that companies aren't required to disclose the composition of their products due to protection of trade secrets. So I worry that their claims may not be totally honest.

How trustworthy do you think the chemical flame retardant-free claims of the companies you mentioned are? Can you particularly recommend one or two that you think are on the high road and make a comfortable, durable product as well?

Thanks for the clarification about the CFR 1633 regulations regarding rate of heat...

Looking for a non-toxic, PBDE-free, comfortable, durable mattress - lightningbug
Jul 20, 2010 2:20 PM
I am new to the list and am in the process of researching non-toxic beds. I have a lot of questions.

I recently learned about how ubiquitous PBDEs are, and about their increased use in mattresses since the increased flammability regulations went into effect a few years ago.

I've had a TempurPedic mattress for the past ten years and have loved it, but it is now kind of soft. I realize now that I've been sleeping on a heap of unhealthy chemicals for a long time.

I want to purchase a King mattress that has as few potentially dangerous chemicals as possible. I've wondered about Strobel beds, as they have the option of having a doctor's prescription for a flame-retardant-free bed. I've also looked at the Essentia website, and it looks like they have a "natural" latex memory foam bed (I've read on this...

Need a new mattress--help! - amysue30
Jul 24, 2010 5:54 AM
Hi

I am hoping someone can give me guidance about buying a new mattress.  First let me say that I just discovered this forum and am so glad to have found a resource for mattress information.  I would rather buy a used car at this point :)  I am on my 3rd replacement Kingsdown mattress. The first two were body systems in green and had latex toppers. After 6 months or so they developed massive ditches and were labeled defective by Kingsdown. They just sent me my third one, which is a series 800 and it is so firm that I am waking up with my shoulder and arm numb.  I've had it for three days and have yet to have a good night's sleep. The place I bought it at (not Sleepy's) does not carry any other brand, so I either get another Kingsdown or bite the...

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