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Re: The Prince and the Pea... yes, we really can be that sensitive! - JCturboT
Dec 16, 2009 2:40 PM
Dec 16, 2009 2:40 PM
Re: Essentia - eagle2
Dec 16, 2009 6:44 PM
Mich: I can not help you as I have never heard of them. But I would not take them to seriously when they engage in such terminology as a company that has the, "world's only natural memory foam." What is "natural memory foam"? It is my understanding that all memory foam, in all of its different varieties, is all made from petrochemicals. I believe they are simply engaging in sales hyperbole!
I believe I would look elsewhere....
Dec 16, 2009 6:44 PM
Mich: I can not help you as I have never heard of them. But I would not take them to seriously when they engage in such terminology as a company that has the, "world's only natural memory foam." What is "natural memory foam"? It is my understanding that all memory foam, in all of its different varieties, is all made from petrochemicals. I believe they are simply engaging in sales hyperbole!
I believe I would look elsewhere....
Re: The Prince and the Pea... yes, we really can be that sensitive! - eagle2
Dec 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Dec 16, 2009 6:35 PM
Jeff: Yes it is to bad that the soft, and I am afraid medium natural Talalay foam is to soft for folks like us. I wonder how light in weight a person would have to be before these ILD's would be firm enough?
It's too bad that quite a few people come on these forums make a few posts, get the answers they want, and then disappear into the night, without being willing to come back and share their experience with the very people that helped them.
I also agree with you Jeff, that the old forum seemed to be more active, and have more information than the new forum. It's too bad that when they changed the software they had the bug that caused people to have difficulty registering. They lost a lot of good people when they made that transfer....
It's too bad that quite a few people come on these forums make a few posts, get the answers they want, and then disappear into the night, without being willing to come back and share their experience with the very people that helped them.
I also agree with you Jeff, that the old forum seemed to be more active, and have more information than the new forum. It's too bad that when they changed the software they had the bug that caused people to have difficulty registering. They lost a lot of good people when they made that transfer....
Re: The Prince and the Pea... yes, we really can be that sensitive! - eagle2
Dec 15, 2009 2:08 PM
Thanks for the link JC. Very interesting company. Sometimes simpler is better....... if it's well done!
Jeff: I just concluded reading your thread in the old forum on your SleepEZ 13000...
Dec 15, 2009 2:08 PM
Thanks for the link JC. Very interesting company. Sometimes simpler is better....... if it's well done!
Jeff: I just concluded reading your thread in the old forum on your SleepEZ 13000...
Re: Flobeds question - eagle2
Dec 15, 2009 12:04 PM
Dec 15, 2009 12:04 PM
Kimberly: I'm glad to hear you found the proper firmness for you. I can appreciate your position as I am rapidly nearing the end of my 90 day period as well, and still trying to find that ideal comfort level. As far as "Unoriginal" goes, I understand. At first I thought that I would need softer material as well. I am finding out that the exact opposite is true. The thing we need to think about is not the initial feel of laying on the mattress. Most people like the feel of a soft surface. The need for support only becomes apparent after you have lain on the mattress for a period of time( within about one hour for me,depending on several factors) a too soft surface will loses its appeal because the support just is not there.
I must confess that I still wonder about Dunlop processed hundred percent natural...
I must confess that I still wonder about Dunlop processed hundred percent natural...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - linda
Dec 15, 2009 6:19 PM
Dec 15, 2009 6:19 PM
Ihad an old Sers dunlop mattress but it was decades ago when I was a kid, so I can't be of any help as to what they sell nowadays. Extremely comfortable, all one piece (or perhaps glued pieces, I don't know as it was inside a typical mattress cover)...
Re: The Prince and the Pea... yes, we really can be that sensitive! - dodo2
Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM
I am definitly not the first to try to warn people of the mattress industry and all its inferiorness inacurateness and untruthfulness, and in all, like many before me I will probably fail . I imagine it is routine for these snake oil mattress companies on how to deal with my messages. But I will not back down no matter how pointless and inevitable my mission of warning is. Eagle2 I will not vouch for your suggestions of the sleepEZ13000 and Flowbeds as for what I can see online they are latex and natural talalay latex dosn't mean much too me. Older messages from the "mattress form" are for whatever reason gone. They where moved or deleted (hopefully not to conceal information), but still I spectulate. I can almost forsee a storm of scrutiney (lol). ...
Re: Essentia - Elaine70
Dec 17, 2009 4:06 AM
Dec 17, 2009 4:06 AM
just looked on their site.... ''The Only Natural Memory Foam Mattress Essentia is the only manufacturer of natural memory foam in the world. Our cutting-edge Natural mattresses deliver a level of comfort, performance, purity and durability never before seen in mattresses. Made from 100% natural latex rubber, Essentia's natural memory foam has all the benefits of memory foam without the toxic ingredients.'' and since they make their own latex, i would think this is good stuff...
Re: thoughts on this photo of two latex layers, one of which looks a little crumbly - grimloki
Dec 17, 2009 12:12 AM
Dec 17, 2009 12:12 AM
Wow Kimberly I'm impressed with your knowledge of latex manufacturers!
100% natural latex is rumored to be crumbly, compared to natural latex blended with synthetics.
Actually... none of that is really correct. Latex is a suspension of elastomer particles in a liquid. When the liquid is gone, the elastomer particles cross link, get tangled up with eachother, or form chemical bonds. They always vulcanize the rubber, or add something to it, and the additive gives the elastomer molecules something to bond to or wrap around. The silica, or sulpher, or whatever mixed in the latex is 'natural' in the same way petrochemicals are natural... petroleum was once ferns after all.
So really, when they say 100% natural latex is crumbly, it doesn't tell you anything.
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100% natural latex is rumored to be crumbly, compared to natural latex blended with synthetics.
Actually... none of that is really correct. Latex is a suspension of elastomer particles in a liquid. When the liquid is gone, the elastomer particles cross link, get tangled up with eachother, or form chemical bonds. They always vulcanize the rubber, or add something to it, and the additive gives the elastomer molecules something to bond to or wrap around. The silica, or sulpher, or whatever mixed in the latex is 'natural' in the same way petrochemicals are natural... petroleum was once ferns after all.
So really, when they say 100% natural latex is crumbly, it doesn't tell you anything.
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Essentia - MichLee
Dec 16, 2009 5:36 PM
Dec 16, 2009 5:36 PM
I'm new here. I've spent a few hours poking around but haven't found any information on the mattress I'm considering: the Classic 8 by a company called Essentia (www.myessentia.com). They are a Canadian company that makes what is billed as the world's only natural memory foam. Has anyone heard of them? Thanks for taking the time to answer. -Michelle...