Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - eagle2
Dec 1, 2009 10:14 AM
Yes the difference is real between natural and blended. The difference is in the density. A 3 inch piece of natural will weigh somewhere in the vicinity of two to three pounds more for a California King half sheet of latex. By "half sheet" I'm talking about the fact that most everyone gets their beds in split layers. So a half sheet, or layer, or core, or whatever you want to call it, will weigh about 2 to 3 pounds more in a natural as opposed to a blended piece. This translates into a softer feel for the blended piece. And I am going to suppose that it is less supportive due to the lesser amount of solids that wind up in the mix. "Just my guess!"
I posted some time ago a rather lengthy piece about the difference between ILD and density. You would think that ILD would give you...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - eagle2
Dec 1, 2009 8:36 AM
As I indicated yesterday the blended firm piece of latex feels softer than the 100% natural firm latex feels. I believe this is due to the density of the material.
I would advise anyone purchasing blended latex to go one step firmer over natural. In other words if you feel that you need a firm piece of latex in a natural latex and you're going to order blended, order and extra firm piece of blended. And so forth....
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - KimberlyH
Dec 2, 2009 5:39 AM
The one thing that strikes me about this mattress is it's going to have a pretty soft feel, even as a Dunlop mattress, which some say tends to be firmer than Talalay. The ILD on my mattress has 9" of 36 ILD latex (although it is slightly different - Talalay processed) and I consider that to be a minimum firmness (for me at least). This one only has 3-4 inches of a medium firmness latex (32 ILD), all of the rest of the layers seem extremely soft to me.
So . . . to get personal, if you are on the heavier side, or a stomach sleeper, you may find this mattress to be too soft. Do you and your husband prefer softer or firmer mattresses?
There is someone on this forum who prefers and bought a Dunlop latex mattress, maybe she'll see this post and comment.
Jason has a point about the...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - linda
Dec 2, 2009 8:58 AM
Dunlap is significantly heavier, and feels much firmer (IMO) due to it's density than 100% natural talalay with the same ILD. I can't speak for blended talalay....
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - sandman
Dec 2, 2009 6:53 AM
Good find. I look at Costco all the time and I never saw that. Even when I go to the costco website and search on latex mattress I don't find it. Sounds like a good price with a good return policy.
However, I agree that it might not a firm enough base unless the Dunlop is significantly firmer than Talatech. Plus no ability to customize it to personal needs. Also, it is not clear who is manufacturing it, so quality and consistency might be an issue. So, a bit of a gamble but not much to lose.
I wonder if all of the layers are glued together? The cover does come off.
When I purchased a mattress from Costco they delivered and installed it, and came to pick it up when I returned it. Didn't cost me a penny. It also came much quicker than the 4-6 week time frame. I think I had it in...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - sandman
Dec 1, 2009 9:02 AM
Interesting. Just one more variable to have to deal with. It is hard to say if that will always apply, due to the differences in batches. However, all natural talalay may be somewhere in between blended talalay and dunlop in terms of inherent firmness.
I seem to keep switching to firmer on mine because of a sense of sinking in too far. Last night I used XF on the top 2 layers over firm. However, I had 1" of extra Celsion as well. ...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - JasonRatky
Dec 1, 2009 10:24 PM
Nice find!
100% "certified" (?) all natural latex with no synthetics, from a big box store that (along with Sam's Club) has the G.O.A.T. return policy ever. if only those layers were interchangeable, so you could get the fimest layer out of the middle & directly under your back. otherwise it's flippable b.t the 24 & 19 ild outermost layers. At least it's dunlop, so those ratings should be pretty conservative vs. talalay for firmness. and all that for $1,000 for a queen that's 10" thick. but remember to factor in tax from costco vs. online dealers who are out of state, as well as note that it takes FOUR TO SIX WEEKS for delivery, when online dealers are much quicker.
i just like that if it's too soft, stinks too bad, or is just a P.O.S., you can simply drive it to a lcoal costco & get ALL your money back immediately, no hassle, no fighting demands that you first need to...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - JasonRatky
Dec 1, 2009 9:11 AM
That's very interesting. If anything, I would have expected the blended to feel slightly firmer than the all natural. But really, I would have expected them both to feel identical because 1) they are both manufactured by the same company, LI, and 2) they undergo the same ILD testing. It doesn't make sense that they could share a similar ILD and yet one feel softer than the other.
I'm also surprised that you say the smell on the blended was less noticable than with the 100% natural. Again, I would have expected it to be the other way around, if anything. I received a replacement piece of blended last week and could barely notice any odor from it.
Keep us posted!
Yeah that WAS a surprising report on both counts. Counter to almost everything i've been reading on odor & firmness of blended vs. natural.
either way, thanks for the update eagle. it's not your...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - GentleBathandCo
Dec 2, 2009 12:17 PM
Thanks for your input. I am fairly small 5' medium build and my husband is 6" medium build and we both want a softer feeling bed with good support. We are thinking about getting two of the mattresses for our sons so we may just use them as our guinea pigs! I suppose we could always buy latex layers in the future too if we really don't like the feel of the latex. The mattress cover must zip off because it says you can flip the inner mattress to a softer or firmer side....
New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - GentleBathandCo
Dec 1, 2009 4:33 PM
Hi, I have been looking for a new mattress and when I was researching Latex mattresses I found this site. I had already decided to try a latex mattress before coming here and from what I have read I am more convinced that is what I want. My husband noticed a new latex mattress listed on the Costco site and I was wondering if anyone has tried it. I know it is new, but I thought maybe someone might have some comments that might help. Here are the highlights of the bed components - we would be getting a King size with the foundation and at $1499.99 it seems like a steal. I know we would be sacrificing the ability to customize the firmness on each side but is it worth $1000.00 for that??? Here are the list of latex layers - ...