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Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - Kait
Oct 21, 2009 11:44 AM
Oct 21, 2009 11:44 AM
I don't think that you would be necessarily getting a better mattress just because they label it green. I am starting to feel my hackles rise when brands claim to be chemical-free and therefore green. It seems to me that they are often just going for the sales gimmick, since green is considered good, and can charge more for the product. First, the premise is flawed. If you have ever taken a chemistry class, it is clear that EVERYTHING on this good earth(and elsewhere) is composed of CHEMICALS. You, me, the trees, dirt, everything is chemical. So it is impossible for anything to be chemical-free, or even have LESS chemicals than another product.
It is possible to have less of certain kinds of chemicals, tho. Just a FWIW.
The PU foam will wear out before the Latex, and depending on where it is in the mattress, could cause body indentations. The...
It is possible to have less of certain kinds of chemicals, tho. Just a FWIW.
The PU foam will wear out before the Latex, and depending on where it is in the mattress, could cause body indentations. The...
Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - Catherine
Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM
Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM
arg0 wrote:
I'm a little bit confused about what's in and on your mattress. What's in the plush top and how thick is it? Is it the same thing as the topper you're talking about, or something that's attached to the mattress (like a pillowtop) and underneath the topper?
Latex with...
I did buy the Solice, which seems very good, and a mattress mate topper by the same company. But the combo still seems too firm. I knew it would be firm, but that is why we bought the topper (4", 2" talalay and 2" wool). I finally called Natura and discovered that the topper is made with 2" 26-32 ILD talalay
which probably accounts for the firmness????? My local store said they would switch out the Talalay (from the topper) with an ILD of 20-22. What do you think?
They are only charging me the shipping ($80). Any thoughts?
which probably accounts for the firmness????? My local store said they would switch out the Talalay (from the topper) with an ILD of 20-22. What do you think?
They are only charging me the shipping ($80). Any thoughts?
I'm a little bit confused about what's in and on your mattress. What's in the plush top and how thick is it? Is it the same thing as the topper you're talking about, or something that's attached to the mattress (like a pillowtop) and underneath the topper?
Latex with...
Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - arg0
Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM
Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM
Catherine wrote:
Hi Catherine,
Thanks for your post. I guess my post was a bit confusing. The solice mattress is 10" and is firm. It...
I'm a little bit confused about what's in and on your mattress. What's in the plush top and how thick is it? Is it the same thing as the topper you're talking about, or something that's attached to the mattress (like a pillowtop) and underneath the topper?
Latex with an ILD of 20-22 will be softer than latex in the 26-32 ILD range. I'm not sure how much of a difference a few points on the ILD scale will make, but it could be worth a try. However, $80 seems like a lot for shipping (to me, anyway) -- does that include the return shipping for the topper that's too firm? (And if the store is local, why would they charge you for shipping?)
-Catherine
Latex with an ILD of 20-22 will be softer than latex in the 26-32 ILD range. I'm not sure how much of a difference a few points on the ILD scale will make, but it could be worth a try. However, $80 seems like a lot for shipping (to me, anyway) -- does that include the return shipping for the topper that's too firm? (And if the store is local, why would they charge you for shipping?)
-Catherine
Hi Catherine,
Thanks for your post. I guess my post was a bit confusing. The solice mattress is 10" and is firm. It...
Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - arg0
Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM
Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM
Thanks so much for the helpful comments! To answer your questions, we have a Cal King (which they don't have abroad), thus the reason for us taking it with us.
I did buy the Solice, which seems very good, and a mattress mate topper by the same company. But the combo still seems too firm. I knew it would be firm, but that is why we bought
the topper (4", 2" talalay and 2" wool). I finally called Natura and discovered that the topper is made with 2" 26-32 ILD talalay
which probably accounts for the firmness????? My local store said they would switch out the Talalay (from the topper) with an ILD of 20-22. What do you think?
They are only charging me the shipping ($80). Any thoughts?...
I did buy the Solice, which seems very good, and a mattress mate topper by the same company. But the combo still seems too firm. I knew it would be firm, but that is why we bought
the topper (4", 2" talalay and 2" wool). I finally called Natura and discovered that the topper is made with 2" 26-32 ILD talalay
which probably accounts for the firmness????? My local store said they would switch out the Talalay (from the topper) with an ILD of 20-22. What do you think?
They are only charging me the shipping ($80). Any thoughts?...
Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - eagle2
Oct 21, 2009 2:28 PM
Oct 21, 2009 2:28 PM
Catherine said: "Latex with an ILD of 20-22 will be softer than latex in the 26-32 ILD range. I'm not sure how much of a difference a few points on the ILD scale will make."
If my calculations are correct, and you can actually gauge the difference in ILD's in this fashion, then the difference between a piece of latex with an ILD of 22 compared to a piece of latex with an ILD of 32, you would have a difference of 60%. If you do what Latex International does with their ILD numbers and take the middle number in the range that would be from 21 ILD to 29 ILD, or approximately a 40% increase.
Since we are talking in pounds per ILD, then we are talking about a significant difference in feel. I know I can certainly feel a significant difference between a soft piece of International Latex at 22...
If my calculations are correct, and you can actually gauge the difference in ILD's in this fashion, then the difference between a piece of latex with an ILD of 22 compared to a piece of latex with an ILD of 32, you would have a difference of 60%. If you do what Latex International does with their ILD numbers and take the middle number in the range that would be from 21 ILD to 29 ILD, or approximately a 40% increase.
Since we are talking in pounds per ILD, then we are talking about a significant difference in feel. I know I can certainly feel a significant difference between a soft piece of International Latex at 22...
Re: Serta Pure Response vs Natura Solice: HELP! - eagle2
Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM
Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM
Yes, we had another member of the board who is quite defensive of the big S. brands and love to make outrageous analogies.
Too many folks on this forum have had too many negative experiences with what the major manufacturers of mattresses have been getting away with for decades. We have found that you are better off either performing your own surgery on your current mattress, if it is a innerspring mattress with a good set of springs, or dealing with one of the niche market companies that deal in quality latex products.
To each their own, but I really enjoy knowing what is actually inside my mattress and being able to do something about it....
Too many folks on this forum have had too many negative experiences with what the major manufacturers of mattresses have been getting away with for decades. We have found that you are better off either performing your own surgery on your current mattress, if it is a innerspring mattress with a good set of springs, or dealing with one of the niche market companies that deal in quality latex products.
To each their own, but I really enjoy knowing what is actually inside my mattress and being able to do something about it....
Re: MY FLOBED CAME! - eagle2
Oct 21, 2009 11:39 AM
Oct 21, 2009 11:39 AM
KimberlyH wrote:
Let me try and offer a word of encouragement if I can.
What I am finding with my FloBeds is that it takes time for your body to adjust to the new feel. At first my bed on the firmer side felt quite firm indeed. In fact...
The convoluted topper came yesterday and I unzipped the mattress cover and put it in. I'm not sure the convoluted topper offers any improvement over the 3 core layers. My back ached last night and this morning when I got up. My mattress is F/XF/XF.
I don't expect my mattress to *solve* all of my back problems, but I do expect it not to *exacerbate* my back problems. While I *know* my old mattress was exacerbating my back problems, I don't know yet whether the Flobeds mattress also exacerbates my back issues.
I'll give it a week and see how I feel then.
I don't expect my mattress to *solve* all of my back problems, but I do expect it not to *exacerbate* my back problems. While I *know* my old mattress was exacerbating my back problems, I don't know yet whether the Flobeds mattress also exacerbates my back issues.
I'll give it a week and see how I feel then.
Let me try and offer a word of encouragement if I can.
What I am finding with my FloBeds is that it takes time for your body to adjust to the new feel. At first my bed on the firmer side felt quite firm indeed. In fact...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - eagle2
Oct 19, 2009 11:36 AM
Oct 19, 2009 11:36 AM
sandman wrote:
Eagle, I am finding that I probably prefer memory foam on the top layer, instead of the convoluted. I am still waiting for the right size convoluted, but when I used the wrong size one I found that using all latex can feel a little hard in highest pressure points (mainly hips when side sleeping). Even with a softer configuration (which also starts detracting from support). So I switched out the top layer for now, and I am using 2" of memory foam over firm/medium vzone (medium hips and shoulders), over firm, over xfirm. The memory foam seems to distribute pressue a little better, (which, I think, is what it is known for). The memory foam might make the bed a little less bouncy feeling as well, which I also prefer. The main downside would be if...
Got my flobeds! - sandman
Oct 17, 2009 7:30 AM
Oct 17, 2009 7:30 AM
I received my queen flobeds vzone yesterday in 4 boxes (including 1 pillow). I got the blended latex. It took about 1 hour (or less?) to put together. Although, first I had to lug the old mattress out of the way. I did not read the tip on folding the matress cover down over the foundation until after I was done. That might have made it a bit easier to get the first layer down. I also cut into the plastic on the first half layer, not realizing that it was just taped shut. Once I got the first layer down, the rest went pretty smoothly, although it is not always the easiest to line them up.
My configuration was firm vzone layer (I have 1/2 medium vzone as well) over xfirm over firm. The firm vzone is medium in...
My configuration was firm vzone layer (I have 1/2 medium vzone as well) over xfirm over firm. The firm vzone is medium in...
I want to hear from others who purchased Full Burma Firm Natural Latex Mattress Set - eddiechaged165
Oct 21, 2009 5:40 PM
Oct 21, 2009 5:40 PM
I am considering purchasing a latex mattress in the near future. I've been doing my homework by researching and visiting several local showrooms to try them. There are two main reasons why I like them: long lasting promise and ecological friendly approach. What I like least is: the high cost of this set. Therefore, I want to make a smart investment with my next purchase. I would really like to hear comments from other savvy buyers (satisfied and non satisfied) who can give me advised in this matter. Any recommendations or considerations I should be looking for? Thank you very much!
The specification of the mattress set I am looking at:
Manufacturer: Simmons
Make Natural Care Latex
Model: Burma Firm (Talalay latex, Ultra Foam, Surface Enclosed Edge Support)
Firm PURFoam: Extra Firm
Foundation Options: Triton Foundation 9 inches or Low Profile 5.5 inches
Full size complete set
Warranty: 20 years (10 years non prorated)
Suggested price: $4499
Sale: ...
The specification of the mattress set I am looking at:
Manufacturer: Simmons
Make Natural Care Latex
Model: Burma Firm (Talalay latex, Ultra Foam, Surface Enclosed Edge Support)
Firm PURFoam: Extra Firm
Foundation Options: Triton Foundation 9 inches or Low Profile 5.5 inches
Full size complete set
Warranty: 20 years (10 years non prorated)
Suggested price: $4499
Sale: ...