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Re: Foam by Mail latex & Latex International latex comparison - MequonJim
May 29, 2009 2:43 PM
Hi electracat,
I ordered from www.memoryfoam.com originally because I had purchased from Mark before, and I knew he was a straight shooter. Also his prices were reasonable for brand name foams. I ordered the topper from www.foamsource.com because Mark did not carry the 100% natural talalay, and that is what I wanted in contact with my body. After I slept on that half of the bed for a long time, I knew that I liked latex, and I had an idea of what might feel good on the other side. Slightly less firm topper and a firm core. Having read somewhat favorable reviews on this site about FBM, I took the plunge, considering the low prices of FBM for latex.
This site is here to educate consumers about...
May 29, 2009 2:43 PM
Hi electracat,
I ordered from www.memoryfoam.com originally because I had purchased from Mark before, and I knew he was a straight shooter. Also his prices were reasonable for brand name foams. I ordered the topper from www.foamsource.com because Mark did not carry the 100% natural talalay, and that is what I wanted in contact with my body. After I slept on that half of the bed for a long time, I knew that I liked latex, and I had an idea of what might feel good on the other side. Slightly less firm topper and a firm core. Having read somewhat favorable reviews on this site about FBM, I took the plunge, considering the low prices of FBM for latex.
This site is here to educate consumers about...
Re: Foam by Mail latex & Latex International latex comparison - MequonJim
May 27, 2009 8:16 PM
The 2" 32 ILD natural talalay I bought from www.foamsource.com
The other 3" blended talalay layers I bought from www.memoryfoam.com back when it used to be owned by Mark Reigle (way different site back then!)....
May 27, 2009 8:16 PM
The 2" 32 ILD natural talalay I bought from www.foamsource.com
The other 3" blended talalay layers I bought from www.memoryfoam.com back when it used to be owned by Mark Reigle (way different site back then!)....
Foam by Mail latex & Latex International latex comparison - MequonJim
May 27, 2009 7:12 PM
May 27, 2009 7:12 PM
I finally got around to taking some photos of my latex. I own a king sized latex bed. Half of it is Latex International [LI] latex and half of it is Foam by Mail [FBM] latex.
The LI side consists of:
3" blended talalay 44 ILD
3" blended talalay 36 ILD
2" natural talalay 32 ILD
The FBM side consists of:
6" talalay Firm
2" talalay Soft
Here are some photos:

FBM on the left and LI on the right. You can see the obvious difference in quality.

FBM core in the cover.

FBM cover cut open.

FBM core brown spots and other inconsistencies.

FBM core random pincore holes, cut side view.

FBM soft topper random hole patterns.

FBM topper short, should be 80" long

FBM core short.

FBM invoice with my personal information covered up.

LI 32 ILD natural talalay topper tag.

LI 36 ILD blended...
The LI side consists of:
3" blended talalay 44 ILD
3" blended talalay 36 ILD
2" natural talalay 32 ILD
The FBM side consists of:
6" talalay Firm
2" talalay Soft
Here are some photos:

FBM on the left and LI on the right. You can see the obvious difference in quality.

FBM core in the cover.

FBM cover cut open.

FBM core brown spots and other inconsistencies.

FBM core random pincore holes, cut side view.

FBM soft topper random hole patterns.

FBM topper short, should be 80" long

FBM core short.

FBM invoice with my personal information covered up.

LI 32 ILD natural talalay topper tag.

LI 36 ILD blended...
Re: Foam by Mail latex & Latex International latex comparison - Lynn2006
May 28, 2009 6:11 PM
May 28, 2009 6:11 PM
Jim, Thanks for sharing the differences in the Latex. I only know I had tried a Dunlap latex topper and the quality was not there for that topper. My Latex from FloBeds.com is the quality on the right with the same tags since it is from Latex International. The quality of my Latex 1" topper from Brylane homes also looks like the right side and is very nice. My bed is very comfortable to sleep on but since I am a side sleeper and very petite, I wanted a little bit of cushion but not too much so I could feel the very firm layers of the latex underneath the toppers. Each side has one blended latex Super Firm (44 ILD with one of the cores averaging at 46 ILD like I requested) and two natural Talalay Latex Cores with my Natural Latex Topper over this. I am very chemically...
Re: Foam by Mail latex & Latex International latex comparison - jimsocal
May 30, 2009 11:40 AM
May 30, 2009 11:40 AM
Very interesting. I've never seen irregular latex like that. All the latex I have ever seen was very regular in terms of how the holes are placed.
I take it you did not know the piece was short until you'd had it awhile. Otherwise, were it me, I'd have considered making them send me one the right size at their expense.
I have some concern as to whether or not that FBM piece is truly Talalay because I have never seen Talalay irregular like that. Looks more like "jungle latex" to me.
That said, I once laid on some jungle latex and liked the feel of it better than Talalay... (I use the term "jungle latex" as I've read it here in the past, to signify latex that is all natural
and usually comes from Malaysia or India (?) or some exotic country.)...
I take it you did not know the piece was short until you'd had it awhile. Otherwise, were it me, I'd have considered making them send me one the right size at their expense.
I have some concern as to whether or not that FBM piece is truly Talalay because I have never seen Talalay irregular like that. Looks more like "jungle latex" to me.
That said, I once laid on some jungle latex and liked the feel of it better than Talalay... (I use the term "jungle latex" as I've read it here in the past, to signify latex that is all natural
and usually comes from Malaysia or India (?) or some exotic country.)...
Re: NEED HELP. Please recommend a extermely high quality mattress. - Jazzsinger777
May 29, 2009 5:30 PM
May 29, 2009 5:30 PM
Zollen,
You could look into www.foamite.com ... They have two locations in the Greater Toronto Area ...
They have pretty good products, and you can build your own with them in CAD $ but I would recommend trying out their stuff and see if you can buy a portion from them and then order the Latex from FBM.
With the CAD $ coming up against the greenback, I am considering ordering the Euro Slats from Flobeds as a base, ... wife and I could have our own support the way we like it ... get the Soy based Foam from Foamite ... and then order the latex from FBM.
Also, Ikea's mattress is pretty good ... 85% natural latex, only 15% Polyurethane. I am considering putting that on top of the flexible slatted base as well ....
Keep us updated as I am in the same area as you and could use some...
You could look into www.foamite.com ... They have two locations in the Greater Toronto Area ...
They have pretty good products, and you can build your own with them in CAD $ but I would recommend trying out their stuff and see if you can buy a portion from them and then order the Latex from FBM.
With the CAD $ coming up against the greenback, I am considering ordering the Euro Slats from Flobeds as a base, ... wife and I could have our own support the way we like it ... get the Soy based Foam from Foamite ... and then order the latex from FBM.
Also, Ikea's mattress is pretty good ... 85% natural latex, only 15% Polyurethane. I am considering putting that on top of the flexible slatted base as well ....
Keep us updated as I am in the same area as you and could use some...
Re: Numbness with latex mattress - Zzzzzzzspleaze
Jun 3, 2009 4:39 PM
I know what you mean! I can't use my ErgoSoft latex pillow because it's just a little too firm, so I've been using it as a backrest. :-) Though you've...
Jun 3, 2009 4:39 PM
I know what you mean! I can't use my ErgoSoft latex pillow because it's just a little too firm, so I've been using it as a backrest. :-) Though you've...
Re: Just ordered Walmarts Spa Sensations King $550 Delivered - Zzzzzzzspleaze
May 28, 2009 10:05 AM
May 28, 2009 10:05 AM
Nope, but I do have a caveat: You might want to measure your mattress after the requisite 72 hour period for full expansion. My memory foam mattress from Wal-Mart (Aerus Natural 10") is two inches short length-wise, and a half an inch short in width. I don't mind that it's not quite as wide as specified, but I feel cheated on the length. At 5'6", my toes should not be dangling over the foot of a full-size mattress!...
Re: More kooky latex questions...this time regarding Dunlop processed toppers. - Zzzzzzzspleaze
May 26, 2009 8:43 PM
May 26, 2009 8:43 PM
Great...thank you all so much for the feedback! It's been invaluable. I won't go with 4", but I'm wondering if I can get away with 3"...it's more economical to put together a mattress using the fewest layers possible. My present mattress has a 3" memory foam comfort layer and it just isn't thick enough. I don't know if 2" would really be worth my while. 4" does seem a little excessive for a top layer, though.
Well, anyway, I'm getting samples of the two ILDs I'm interested in (16-18 and 26), so I'll be better able to judge which thickness I need once I've actually felt the material.
Well, anyway, I'm getting samples of the two ILDs I'm interested in (16-18 and 26), so I'll be better able to judge which thickness I need once I've actually felt the material.
Re: Kluft Latex - Zzzzzzzspleaze
May 26, 2009 7:10 PM
May 26, 2009 7:10 PM
I just had to look up the Kluft mattress you're considering and, wow!, does that ever look comfy. I don't have personal experience with latex, but from perusing the threads here I've gathered that the last thing you want is a ready-made mattress with a poly foam core or layer over the latex, due to its propensity for breaking down in a relatively short time and causing hammocking and body depression issues. I think that as long as your mattress is 100% latex, you should be fine. The advantage to purchasing the Flobed type of mattress is that you can change out the layers as they degrade over time, or you can customize the firmness on any given day by switching things around. I don't blame you for not wanting to fuss with various layers...that's pretty much how I feel about latex mattress shopping. ...