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Re: Latex Longevity - mccldwll
Jan 28, 2008 11:15 AM
Jan 28, 2008 11:15 AM
Dawn--
I went to the site and found this statement:
"and since synthetic latex is stiffer, coarse in texture, not as soft and inviting, and does not have the antibacterial, antifungal, and hypoallergenic qualities that Natural Latex provides"
That's total b*llsh*t, as are some of the other statements. And the prices aren't that good. Generally figure $150/inch for king size latex ($1200 for 8"). Then a cover. Then shipping. There is no free lunch....
I went to the site and found this statement:
"and since synthetic latex is stiffer, coarse in texture, not as soft and inviting, and does not have the antibacterial, antifungal, and hypoallergenic qualities that Natural Latex provides"
That's total b*llsh*t, as are some of the other statements. And the prices aren't that good. Generally figure $150/inch for king size latex ($1200 for 8"). Then a cover. Then shipping. There is no free lunch....
Re: Latex Longevity - mccldwll
Jan 28, 2008 11:00 AM
Jan 28, 2008 11:00 AM
"I have done a lot of research on Latex and found that 100% latex, Dunlap or Talalay are the only product that has an almost full guarantee on body impressions and product breakdown. "
Dawn--
This sounds a bit too much like an ad. It is also totally wrong. Dunlop in general tends to break down a bit more than talalay. Further, the highest quality 100% natural talay (such as Latex International's all natural Talatech) breaks down faster than standard talalay blend (such as Latex International's standard Talatech). That's why LI's all natural has a 15 year warranty compared to 20 for the blend. Spend some time on LI's website....
Dawn--
This sounds a bit too much like an ad. It is also totally wrong. Dunlop in general tends to break down a bit more than talalay. Further, the highest quality 100% natural talay (such as Latex International's all natural Talatech) breaks down faster than standard talalay blend (such as Latex International's standard Talatech). That's why LI's all natural has a 15 year warranty compared to 20 for the blend. Spend some time on LI's website....
How do Talalay, Dunlop, and all natural latex differ in feel? - kimmcgov
Jan 28, 2008 6:21 PM
Jan 28, 2008 6:21 PM
I've been reading all of the recent posts discussing Dunlop vs. Talalay but I still don't have a handle on how different they (especially all-natural latex) actually FEEL from one another. I'm looking for a 2 inch latex topper and definitely don't want something "bouncy" or "jiggly". I like the feel of medium soft PU foam, but it doesn't last very long. Do any of these types of latex come closer to that feel (not too springy, not too "pudding-y" like memory foam). Does 100% natural latex (either Talalay or Dunlop) have less spring-back than the blended types? It seems that some of you have checked out all types of latex and can perhaps enlighten me on this....
Re: Latex Longevity - mattressmom
Jan 28, 2008 1:47 PM
Jan 28, 2008 1:47 PM
I looked at the Habitat site when we were first looking at latex options. There are better places to get natural Dunlop mattresses. For those prices you could get a nicer cover, customizeable layers and/or choice of firmness. An ILD of 25-26 is quite soft - especially as a core under an even softer layer of Talalay. Softer latex will break down faster than firmer latex....
Re: Savvy Rest report - jimsocal
Jan 28, 2008 2:17 PM
Jan 28, 2008 2:17 PM
mattressmom wrote:
The Dunlop definitely thuds rather than boings. I found there so much latex information tilted toward Talalay that I sought out places that specialized in Dunlop.
I had good luck with this vendor. They told me they usually order medium in 32 ILD but they could order other ILDs for you. They do sell 2" and 3" Twin XL toppers. The prices for soft, medium and firm are somewhat different. Firmer latex costs a bit more. If you call their toll free number, be sure to ask for the person who is knowledgeable about latex - one of the owners. I think her name is Loni. This is a smallish business in Iowa but they drop ship their latex from California.
Natural Selections & Organic Selections.com
http://organicselections.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=127_41
1-888-216-9917
For the record, I am not a stickler about "organic" or "natural" products but I do appreciate the care taken in choosing components...
I had good luck with this vendor. They told me they usually order medium in 32 ILD but they could order other ILDs for you. They do sell 2" and 3" Twin XL toppers. The prices for soft, medium and firm are somewhat different. Firmer latex costs a bit more. If you call their toll free number, be sure to ask for the person who is knowledgeable about latex - one of the owners. I think her name is Loni. This is a smallish business in Iowa but they drop ship their latex from California.
Natural Selections & Organic Selections.com
http://organicselections.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=127_41
1-888-216-9917
For the record, I am not a stickler about "organic" or "natural" products but I do appreciate the care taken in choosing components...
Re: Latex Longevity - jimsocal
Jan 28, 2008 9:05 AM
Jan 28, 2008 9:05 AM
Dawn wrote:
I have done a lot of research on Latex and found that 100% latex, Dunlap or Talalay are the only product that has an almost full guarantee on body impressions and product breakdown. The problem is some of the websites state that their product are 100% only because they use 100% latex in them but the actual mattress is NOT all latex and is usually some combination of synthetic materials. Like many sold in the stores are a combination therefore, they do allow body impressions
I am tired of body impression and coil erosion after only a short 5 years and will be purchasing all latex in a couple of days. I have also determined that all this layering is unnecessary and pretty much a gimmick. One soft layer is necessary if you want a Pillow top...
Re: Want to hear from foam experts with bad backs.... - jimsocal
Jan 28, 2008 8:55 AM
Jan 28, 2008 8:55 AM
Thanks for the info BeddyBye, that answers a lot of questions. I thought maybe I needed a lot more foam over the springs. If all I need is a thin layer of hard HD foam, that is cheap and easy to get! Then I already have 2 layers of 1" 24? ILD Talalay to play with and some memory foam. So all I need to do is buy a layer of harder latex - I think I'll try to get a natural latex since I have always found Talalay to be a weird feeling to lay on. I seem to recall the natural latex having a better feel.
As to putting the memory foam under a layer of latex, or HD foam, I'll be curious to hear if this works for you. I think I have tried it before and as I recall what it does, is it just makes the...
Okay foam experts, I'm looking for specific ideas now... - jimsocal
Jan 27, 2008 8:07 PM
Jan 27, 2008 8:07 PM
Here's the deal:
We have 2 twin Sealys side by side due to my wife moving around a lot during sleep (restless leg syndrome) and me being a light sleeper. This way her bouncing around doesn't wake me up. For now we're going to focus on my bed and leave her's alone. We just fixed her up with a 4" memory foam we had laying around on top of the box springs, covered by a 1.5" memory foam topper. Seems to be working for her, at least for now. The 4 year old CostCo Sealy was giving us both lower back aches.
So for me, what do I do?
I have arms that get stiff and tingly at night. No one knows for sure what it is; I'm still looking into it and seeing a doctor again this week. I am fairly sure it's something called Thoracic Outlet Syndrome which has to do...
Re: Suggestion for cutting and experimenting with foam zones, pillows, etc. - jimsocal
Jan 27, 2008 7:15 PM
Jan 27, 2008 7:15 PM
I get my HD foam locally - or used to. I'm hoping they're still in business and will sell to non-wholesalers like they did before! It's a big factory type place where they sell to furniture makers and businesses. They don't usually sell to individuals - at least we never saw any other people there buying when we were there, many times in the past. So we're lucky to have found them, and we'll be lucky again if they're still in business and willing to sell to us. Last time they had some big pieces of 1" latex laying around as "scraps" and I said "Wow!" and nonchalantly said, "Mmm, how much do you want for that stuff over there?" The guy sold us enough for 2 extra long twin toppers for around $40! I'm hoping they might have some natural latex this time! (This was Talalay.)
As to cutting the...
Re: Latex Longevity - Dawn
Jan 28, 2008 10:23 AM
Jan 28, 2008 10:23 AM
It is my understanding that there is another company that makes a more 100% natural form of latex. Talalay is 100% latex but it's processed in a way that makes it not so "natural". The same with Dunlop if my memory is correct. Not that it's bad, mind you, in fact many do recommend it. But the more natural organic latex also lasts a very long time and has the advantage of having different ILD on both sides - i.e.; you can turn it over and get a different feel. Whereas Talalay is so uniform in manufacture that both sides feel exactly the same.
Thank you for your reply. This company is all 100% natural latex, nothing added - nothing synthetic added. The difference between Dunlap and Talalay is the process used when making the Latex, which is pumping air into Talalaby to make it softer. Both processes providing the...