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Background: I have an EcoSleep Madison that I love and I find the feel of this bed quite different and more solid in a futon sort of way than an equivalent foam by mail setup. I'm still trying to figure out why this is. Could it be the fact that the 6" 33 ILD core and the 2" 24 ILD latex are contained in a non elastic wool padded bamboo casing as opposed to the stretchy cover reccommended for the FBM DIY setups? Question: My boyfriend recently got a similar setup from FBM - 5" of 36 ILD poly core and 1" of 33 ILD latex (spare bed) and it feels a lot squishier than my bed which SHOULD by numbers be notably softer at 33/24. By squishy I don't mean that it isn't supportive - it certainly is - but on my EcoSleep I feel as if there is somewhere to bottom out to, whereas there is no discernable limit with the FBM bed. I am 5'4" 110 mostly side sleeper with mostly shoulder/arm/carpel tunnel issues to address when choosing a bed. He is 6'2" 166 lbs a side and back sleeper with history of severe sciatica mostly corrected by surgery but still vulerable to pain. He says the foam makes his back hurt - that its TOO forgiving of the pressure points. Thinking about how we could go about firming up the FBM bed. A 3" layer of 50 ILD ? and where would that go? base? middle? would it help to have it all in a non stretchy case so the squish was contained? how about a dense wool or cotton padded top (not too pricey) perhaps even a 4" roll up cotton futon as a topper ? Given that most futons these days have foam in them already, it would seem silly to scrap the FBM bed for a futon but even at 36/33 ILD the FBM bed does feel too squishy. (Sorry can't come up with any better words - hopefully people know what i mean.) Thanks!
This message was modified Jan 2, 2012 by numbernine
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I do not think the cover has anything to do with the problems you are having. I have a bamboo cover, a terrycloth cover, and a wool cover that have all been used on the same foam mattress and the mattress changes very, very little due to the cover.
I think your friends problem is the poly core. A sore back is usually a sign of a "too soft" mattress. I would switch out the poly core with at least a 3" layer of extra firm foam, and then 3" of whatever latex he desires. |
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jeff8407 wrote: I do not think the cover has anything to do with the problems you are having. I have a bamboo cover, a terrycloth cover, and a wool cover that have all been used on the same foam mattress and the mattress changes very, very little due to the cover.
I think your friends problem is the poly core. A sore back is usually a sign of a "too soft" mattress. I would switch out the poly core with at least a 3" layer of extra firm foam, and then 3" of whatever latex he desires. |
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So.. still trying to figure out what would be best for firming. The setup is FBM - 5" of 36 ILD poly core and 1" of 33 ILD latex. Without losing money on the whole thing - how could it be made firmer? ADD a 3" layer of 50 LUX HQ as a base? OR how would it perform as a middle layer? I'm interested in avoiding waste of material and money. As stated in the original post - even considering a 4" roll up cotton futon as a topper. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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"would it help to have it all in a non stretchy case so that the squish was contained?" Yes, that's exactly the effect i've found TIGHTLY bound non elastic cases to have, & more squishy when I removed them. |
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Thanks for the reply. I kind of suspected that the case/cover would have some effect - and also, something to consider for the many others who are pondering thier DIY setups. Thanks again!
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JasonRatky wrote: "would it help to have it all in a non stretchy case so that the squish was contained?"
Yes, that's exactly the effect i've found TIGHTLY bound non elastic cases to have, & more squishy when I removed them. |
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bigdaddyk wrote:
I have only gone the opposite direction actually, removing sewn-on fabric casings so that my latex conforms better. If I were trying to make a block of latex more firm, I'd just scrap what I had if I couldn't return it, then buy firmer latex instead. Otherwise I might as well be using polyurethane foam. I find all the qualities of latex I like are no longer there, when it's tightly bound like that. |