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Right now I have a 2" 32 ILD and 1" 24 ILD topper from Latex International on top of a firm innerspring mattress. I originally started with the 2" 32 ILD and that didn't alleviate my hip numbness at all (side sleeper, 150-160 lbs). The 1" 24 ILD helped, but I think I need a little more thickness, so I was considering ordering another 1" 24 ILD from sleeplikeabear.com (who has been excellent). Problem is, my bed is already getting tall and I really don't want it to be another 1" in height. So, if I were to build a complete Latex bed (10-12" overall height is the goal), what density ILD cores should I be looking at? I was even thinking of getting something cheap for the bottom-most layer (maybe from foambymail or something) and then another Latex International topper so at least the top half is all good quality latex. Foambymail has a 6" latex core with an average ILD of 36 for CHEAP, but I'm not sure that's dense enough for the bottom layer. What ILDs would you get for the bottom layers to go underneath what I already have to give me good support while alleviating pressure points? Should/can I go cheap on the bottom layers? Please help me build my bed! Thanks! This message was modified Jan 30, 2008 by jkozlow3
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From what I have gathered from all of the knowledgeable people here, 32 ILD is way too firm for a cushion layer, especially for a side sleeper. I called Sleeplikeabear and she tried to steer me (125 lbs side sleeper) toward a 32 ILD as well, which didn't seem like very sound advice. Everyone else I have spoken with, as well as all of the folks on this forum, seem to think mid twenties for a good top layer. If the innerspring is still good and you are reluctant to shell out for a whole new bed, I'd exchange the 32 ILD piece for something softer (if you are still within the return-date period). I know what you mean about not wanting to get too tall of a mattress -- it gets hard to find sheets to fit not to mention having to take a running jump to get into bed... Are you thinking that the layer of 24 ILD is still too firm, or just that there is not enough of it? This message was modified Jan 30, 2008 by kimmcgov
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No, I think the 24 ILD is soft enough, but that at 1" thick I am feeling the firmer 32 ILD beneath. The 32 ILD is good because it has elevated me off of the firm innerspring but now I need more cushioning for my hip. Had I gone with a 2 or 3" 24 ILD instead it might not have been dense enough to keep me from feeling the innerspring beneath. Not sure. This message was modified Jan 30, 2008 by jkozlow3
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OK, what does everyone think about this setup from top to bottom. Remember, side sleeper, 150-160 lbs, trying to alleviate hip numbness from firm innerspring mattress but still want good support. 2" 24 ILD (already own 1" - would add another 1") Thoughts/suggestions? This message was modified Jan 30, 2008 by jkozlow3
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| Top looks good, but I doubt you need both lower layers. Dropping the 36 and going 40 probably sufficient. Remember that ILD varies. Something labeled 36 can average 33/34, labeled 28 can average 25 (personal experience,from pieces received with the original ILD measurement tags). |
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What if I wanted to build a 12" mattress? Keeping in mind that I already have a 1" 24 and a 2" 32, what would you recommend? I realize that 12" may not be necessary, but 10" is a little lower than I prefer for the bed I currently have, and it seems that all newer sheet sets are being made for deeper mattresses anyway. Can people make some recommendations for me on a 10 or 12 inch mattress (using 3" latex layers as the maximum). I prefer 12", but 10" is OK too. Maybe something like this for a 12"... 2" 24 ILD (already own 1" - would add another 1") OR... 1" 24 ILD (already own) And for a 10"... 2" 24 ILD (already own 1" - would add another 1") OR... 2" 24 ILD (already own 1" - would add another 1") Please help...Thanks! |
| Suggest go with Door #4, but w/ only 1 ILD 40 to start. If too firm, add a 36. If feels good, add a 40-44. |
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Thanks. Alright, since I would like a finished height of 12" or so, what if I ordered a 5" piece of x-firm PU foam and put it under 7" of latex to cut down on cost? I can't imagine that the PU foam would come into play too much with 7" of latex on top of it, would it? I could do something like... 2" 24 ILD Then I could get a 12" quilted zippered encasing and place this all on top of a solid plywood (with holes drilled for ventilation) or slatted foundation. Thoughts? Or should I just stick with all-latex? |
| The savings is tempting. My concern, though some dismiss it, is a science experiment between the latex and PU layer. IIRC, water loss during sleep roughly a pint. Latex breathes, but PU doesn't. In the desert SW, might be OK, but above 50% relative humidity in other climes could be problematic. And don't count on dehumidification through AC. The vast majority of AC systems are oversized for the space with the result that temperature reaches target way before sufficient moisture is removed so easily end up w/ 60%+ RH. Not good. |
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Maybe I should just stick with latex then. I live in a very dry climate (Colorado) where most people have humidifiers on their furnaces and few even have central AC due to the dryness and 30+ degree temparature drop at night. But still, I'm not sure the $300 savings is worth the potential drawbacks in the long run. It would be nice to have an all-latex bed, but 12" of latex seems like overkill. I just wish it were easier to find sheets that fit smaller mattresses. Plus, I need somewhere around 12" of height or the bed will be too low (although I could add several layers of plywood with holes drilled for ventilation on top of my slatted foundation to raise the mattress). But sheets will still be an issue if I go too shallow. Ugh! |
| Eastern slope? CO is pretty dry since swamp coolers are usable there. And, 12" may be overkill at $150/inch--especially when you may end up not liking the support of thick latex (which is why I've turned to zoning). If I were you, I might buy another 1" or 2" topper and see how that works over the mattress. |