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I'm trying to buy a good quality (soft luxurious) bed and these are the contents as per the label. Its an Airloom @ $3000.00 Does this seem like a good quality bed or am i in danger of getting ripped off? I have no idea what to look for. All i know is that it is SUPER comfy but i worry that it won't be comfy in a few weeks or will sag prematurly. Latex 54 % Polyfoam pad 39 % Viscose foam 5 % Poly silk 2 % Wool 2 % |
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All of the materials are worthy assuming the quality is good. That's what matters. Also, I imagine you're getting a foundation too. I'll bet it's a standard semi-flex 'box spring' like they use for most mattresses. If you can feel a grid of wires at the surface, it's the same as most these days. They're ok I suppose, but I just built a euro slat bed base and I'm anxious to try that out tomorrow.
As far as getting a true box spring with some kind of flexible arrangement, those are just incredibly rare these days. I do believe the foundation is very important in a set. I guess the most important thing is that the mattress and foundation both hold up well and are durable. If the mattress starts to feel bad, check the foundation too - see if anything is bent in there. This message was modified Aug 25, 2011 by slpngoc
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Thanks for the post slpngoc. Interesting you would mention the foundation being semi flex or not. There are 2 beds, almost identical in contents but one has a semi-flexible box spring and the other is more typically rigid. I couldn't get an explaination as to why one was flexible and the other was not. Its impossible to get a straight answer from anyone. I'm leaning towards getting the set with the rigid box spring but only becuase it is taller and overall just a notch more comfy and bouncy. ALSO, how do i tell if the contents are high quality or low quality???????? They are from Aireloom...thats all i know. What questions can i ask to find out about the quality? |
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neiman wrote:
Thanks for the post slpngoc.
Interesting you would mention the foundation being semi flex or not. There are 2 beds, almost identical in contents but one has a semi-flexible box spring and the other is more typically rigid. I couldn't get an explaination as to why one was flexible and the other was not. Its impossible to get a straight answer from anyone. I'm leaning towards getting the set with the rigid box spring but only becuase it is taller and overall just a notch more comfy and bouncy. ALSO, how do i tell if the contents are high quality or low quality???????? They are from Aireloom...thats all i know. What questions can i ask to find out about the quality? Latex Intl. is a leading supplier of latex, so no worries there. If you look on Latex Intl. site under products and product finder, scroll down to E.S. Kluft to find Aireloom listed. You might ask what type of latex is in the bed. Is it layered, is it talalay, Talatech, maybe some Dunlop. Is it blended or all natural? You may not want to trip out too much on the all natural vs. blended latex. Apparently all or mostly natural latex comes in far fewer densities or ILDs than does blended talalay latex. So, if you can find out about the manufacturers of all materials in the bed, that will help. I'd wager the foundation will have Leggett and Platt inner components. This message was modified Aug 26, 2011 by slpngoc
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| I would be worried about the 39% polyfoam pad. That will not last as long as the latex. The Polyurethene foam is what goes bad first in most S brand mattresses. Of course it will depend on the quality, which there is no way to tell from just that description. Personally, I would not spend $3000 on a mattress that has that much polyfoam. |
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sandman wrote:
I would be worried about the 39% polyfoam pad. That will not last as long as the latex. The Polyurethene foam is what goes bad first in most S brand mattresses. Of course it will depend on the quality, which there is no way to tell from just that description. Personally, I would not spend $3000 on a mattress that has that much polyfoam. I'm scrambling to get my all latex of the iComfort foundation (which is wire grid surface like almost all foundations). I really don't think all latex belongs on standard S brand foundations. This message was modified Aug 26, 2011 by slpngoc
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| Being that the mattress feels really comfortable id bet the polyfoam used is not of the highest density. the problem with polyfoam is that it is inherently a very brittle material compared to more elastic fillings. If it is soft and comfortable it is either memory foam or it is just very low density polyurethane foam. If it is durable high density foam it will be quite unflexible and pneumatic in feeling...not usually all that comfortable. For a $3000 bed, 39% of the content should not be that material IMO. |
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I have to agree with others. If I'm paying $3000 for a bed it better be all latex and should be Talalay.
Just my 2 cents .... |
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Sorry, deleted the post. Got a project going on, will get back. This message was modified Aug 26, 2011 by slpngoc
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| I agree with most of the others. Too much poly foam and will be comfortable for about 9 months to a year and that's about it. You could buy a very good latex mattress for that much money. |
| Wow...thanks everyone for your input and info. Unfortunatly this leaves me in an even bigger delima as the only other bed i liked had almost the same specs only it had 10% less latex and 10% more memory foam (and the same amount of poly foam) so even my plan B appears to not be a good option either. I did try an all Latex mattress with a (removeable) latex pillow top (92 latex, 8 poly foam) but it was a notch too mushy. Ugggg....i am so confused what to do. The last thing i want to do is make a 3000.00 mistake and only get a year of comfort and then have things go bad. |
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neiman wrote: Wow...thanks everyone for your input and info. Unfortunatly this leaves me in an even bigger delima as the only other bed i liked had almost the same specs only it had 10% less latex and 10% more memory foam (and the same amount of poly foam) so even my plan B appears to not be a good option either. I did try an all Latex mattress with a (removeable) latex pillow top (92 latex, 8 poly foam) but it was a notch too mushy. Ugggg....i am so confused what to do. The last thing i want to do is make a 3000.00 mistake and only get a year of comfort and then have things go bad. or Flobeds where you can return them if necessary. There is something to be said about zoned latex mattresses and I think they would be less than $3,000. |
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I am in Calif but we do have a chain of mattress stores that do custom latex mattress. I sort of liked a set up where the mattress was 100% latex and the removable pillow top was 92% latex and 8% poly foam but it was all sort of mushy...not the 'spring-back' type like the Airelooms that i found and liked. Here is the link to the aireloom at Macys that i can pick up for 3000.00....but it too has 39% poly and i am afraid it will not last long now based on the tips here in this forum. http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=555902&PseudoCat=se-xx-xx-xx.esn_results I would soooo appreciate anyone who could take a look at this link and tell me what you think. Its materials are below but not much different from the 1st Aireloom bed above...just 10% less latex and 10% more memory foam; Latex 44% Polyfoam pad 36% Viscose foam 16% Poly silk 2% Wool 2% Polyfiber pad 1% Fiber 1
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| I really gotta say after all of my extensive looking particularly at the high end mattress market...Airelooms pricing (or Kluft, same company) is soooo out of wack and ridiculous. I am sure it depends on the store you buy from, but these 'retail' or 'sale' prices are ridiculous for what you are getting. |
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About the Aireloom, I'd personally be most concerned about this -
* Quilting layers: high-loft and FR fibers; 1.5" convoluted foam; 1.5" high-density foam
FR is for 'fire retardant' fiber. Laced with chemicals to meet the 2007 new standard. What is that 'high-loft' fiber? Some kind of polyurethane batting? The 1.5" convoluted and 1.5" HD are most likely poly foam. Will it hold up? ------------ Other than that, you could call up Shawn today at SleepEZ, ask some Q's. Super nice, not pushy. And, btw, if you do buy,, no delivery fee and ... no sales tax. You're in CA, they're in AZ. No sales tax! I went from a standard open coil > Stearns and Foster traditional > Serta iComfort memory foam > SleepEZ all latex .... all since May this year. The latex is the best, just so you know :) -------------------------------------------------
Hah, funny, Macy's has a typo in ad for Aireloom - says 'cool disco' memory foam . hehehehe
Wow, 14" mattress height! Yikes need low foundation for that! I dunno how happy I'd be with it. For that price, I'd hope the quilt and HD layers hold up. That's some $$ This message was modified Aug 27, 2011 by slpngoc
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