hello im new to the forum and need some advice, after reading all about your experience you guys and gals seem to know your stuff sandman seems like i could use you as a mattress investor specialist' im 45 170 pounds have nerve damage and nerothapy in my ribs and back, im a slide sleeper but i toss and turn all night because of the pain. my wife is 33 and 130 pounds she is a side sleeper (even though ever time i wake up she is on her back). lol we made a big mistake and purchased a bed through OMI its all latex it has a 10 inch base 6 " being extra firm 4 inches being medium. dont know the ild. :( and then we purchased a 3 1/2 inch 22ild to put on top because the firstt mattress was to hard for my wife and i. i know i know should have bought a flobed or sleepez, but here is the problem we are now to broke to due anything. we tried a 2" 14 but that was way to soft and now we are returning it. the 3 1/2 inch is almost right but it hurts my shoulders and my wife wakes up with headaches and her back hurts lower and upper, i awake with my middle back hurting and my neck. so we are thinking to buy a 1" 19 and a 1" 28 or so to try to have some options and we wanted to know what you guys thought? is 1" going to make a difference. we found a company that we can purchase 1" 2" 3" any ild and return it if its not right .. for a small fee.. so for we have spent over 4000. the bed is on a slat foundation and the size is a queen. hoping someone can guide us in making a better decision then we have so far. cant believe the caveman slep on a rock and we cant sleep after spending 4 grand. :(
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ok so last night we tried removing the 3 1/2 22 ild all together and tried putting the 2 " 14 on top of the medium side of the lago. and i bottomed out on my hips and shoulders when sleeping on my side but on my stomache i was perfect. ( too bad im not a stomach sleeper. and my wife said she just felt like it was hurting her hips a little but perfect on her shoulders...
so we got up and put on a 1.5 piece of 3 lb memory foam that we have had forever form wally world and it was good for me on my shoulders but lost the support on my back again not much but enough to notice my wife ended up taking her memory foam off in less than an hour. so here is the problem i think that a 2 " piece of 19 would prob work for both of us but than we prob never use the 3 1/2 inch terra topper. my wife thinks by trying a 1 " 24 and 1 " 19 on top of the terra it might work. money money money the 1 " 19 and 1' 24 will be 344.00 and if we buy a 2 inch 19 it will be 314.00 plus we could return the 14 and get about 280 back. question? should we be trying to see what will work with the 3 1/2 inch 22 ild or forget it all together and work with just the lago buy adding 1 " layers on top of it. im afraid that we will end up wth more money spent and a 18 inch mattress that wont fit any sheets. if the 2 inch will work for both of us on top of the lago medium side up we might get lucky because the 14 inch is so close but the 24 and 19 we will have more options to play with . this is so hard it cost to much to just keep guessing. how much difference is there between the 14 and the 19, if the 14 is really close than will the 19 be ( do u think) good? any thoughts
thanks aaron This message was modified Jan 30, 2011 by chas0512
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OK, when you used the 14 ILD before, I thought it was instead of the 22, not on top of it. I can see why that would have been too soft. The 22 is a convoluted piece, and have you been using it with the bumpy side up? If so, then it should effectively be softer than 22. One thing you may want to try is the 14 below the 3.5" 22. That is not an optimal setup, but you never know. That should be softer than the 22 by itself, but firmer than with the 14 on top of the 22. My guess is that you need 2-3" above the 4" of 24. Not sure what combo, but it might 2" of 19, or 1" of 19 + 2" of 14, or 2" of 19 + 1" of 14. Really hard to guess, and you probably only will be able to tell with trial and error. If you bought 1" of 19, you could try that with the 2" of 14 (above and below it) or folded in half to see what 2" of 19 would be like. Or, as you suggest, go straight for the 2" of 19, then add 1" of something else later if needed. You seem to be sinking through the 2" of 14 and bottoming out below, so you might just need 1" of a bit firmer (19) transition piece below. I really don't think you need any more 24, since you already have 4" of that on top. Therefore, I would try to work with some 19 before and more 24. There is not a huge, but it would be noticable difference between 14 and 19. The 3.5" 22 piece might not fit into the mix at all. If you really wanted to keep that, you probably should only add 1" above or below. It is possible that 1" of 14 on top if it might have worked better than 2". Good luck! I think your case (and many others) shows the advantage of going with a sleepez or flobeds where you can exchange layers and also have each side different. There is a lot of value to that because it is very difficult to get it right without some trial and errro. |
well i think that we have come to a conclusion that we are prob not going to use the 3 1/2 terra topper, the only reason we were thinking of going with a 1 ' 24 was that the 24 that is on the top of the lago is glued to the 6 inch and wrappped in 2 inches of wool so it makes it extremely harder than a raw piece of 24. when we took apart the terra topper it became so soft it hurt our lower backs but if you put the mattress cover back on with the 2 inches of wool it is to hard. hard to explain but that is why i was thinking to bring a 1 inch 24 into the mix because it would be alot softer being raw and only 1 inch instead of 4, maybe im wrong but any how we are ordering the 1 inch of 19 tomorow and another prob we have is we only have 30 days to return this stuff so by the time we order wait for mail sleep a couple of nights then want to change we are going to run out of the 30 days real quick. i guees i could always open a latex and pillow store as much as we have! anyway thanks for your help sandman your insight and past experience with this stuff helps people like us, and we do appreciate it. for all of you readers out there please learn from our mistakes my wife and i have purchased a temperpedic, a simmons nxg 400 and now a OMI all of these mattress are well into the 4000 mark a piece and none of them have been right. i could have gone to sleeplikeabear.com a purchase the same latex for under 1000 or went with a flobed for 2500 so its not how much money you spend its the right combination.... thats all for now ....thanks again sandman
will update when we recieve our 19
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It is not clear to me now if you took top 2" of wool off of the mattress, or did you take it off the 3.5" topper? From an earlier post, I thought you took it off the mattress, but maybe I misinterpreted your statement. That will make a difference if you are putting these toppers over 2" of wool which is over the 10" of (24 & 40) latex. That makes it a bit harder to figure out, and it probably makes it firmer. Are you going to be able to keep the 14 until you get the 19 ILD latex? |
hi sandman sorry for the confusion .. im a little confused myself with all this ordeal. ok the bottom lago is 6 inches of firm with 3 1/2 inches of medium all wrapped up and stuffed with 2 inches of wooll in there mattress cover. than we purchased a second mattress/topper of 3 1/2 inches of 22ild all wrapped up in 2 inches of wool and incased in there mattress cover. if you go to OMI website you can see the terra matrress this is what we have only we have the lago on the bottom instead of there terra bottom. so we are now using the just the lago the way it came just as it says on the OMI website and we took apart the terra topper and are no longer putting it into the mix. we put the 14 2 inch on top of the lago and it was very close but my hips and shoulders still felt to firm and my wife was complaining about the same . thus i guessing it was just to soft. so today we ordered the 1 inch of 19 and a 1 inch of 21 to put on top of the the lago hoping that in fact it will bring a slight new feel giving us enough support that our hips dont bottom out put still soft eough on our shoulders that it will be just right. plus we will have the option of using the 14,19,21 all thre or just 2. in any case i still think we just need 2 inches of 19 but figured the 21 was a little extra option plus we can fold over the 19 to see what 2 inches would feel like or fold over the 21 to see what that would feel like. we are now on a mission, i remember the movie the money pit with tom hanks and we are not far from it. but at least talking to sleeplikeabear they are willing to help us evelyn said we could return up to three so im hoping that at least one of these combinations will work for us. we are getting close really close and we might end up cutting the queen down the middle with an electric knife if in fact she likes a different combo than I. will update you when we recieve the 19 and the 21 they said we would get it thursday so i will give you an update. thanks aaron |
chas, I feel for you. what we need is for these companies selling online to open outlets or sell their products through stores like costco/sams clubs. Have you tried memory foam? Thanks. This message was modified Jan 31, 2011 by roy1
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yes roy we have tried memory foam, and wished we didnt our last mattress was a simmons nxg 400 plush cost 3295.00 ans we had it for about a year it consist of 5 inches of memory foam over 980 coil wrapped springs it was the perfect bed the last bed i would ever buy. so i thought after 8 months the memory foam broke down and i was lying in a hole from hell tried everything to fix it ended up giving it to goodwill. i'll never go back to memory foam again. but this is only my bad experience with memory foam i think if you stay in the 1 or 2 inch range it might work for some people but for us it was a mistake. the temperpedic cloud feels the same as the simmons nxg and looking at reviews online the tpc has the same complaints as we had with our nxg so i " trying to go with latex... trying is the key word here..
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So, you have always been using the Lago with the wool on top? I assume it is sewn shut and you cannot remove it. I think having some wool on top is a good thing, but it makes it more complicated when you are adding toppers on top of it. If you can take it off, I would suggest trying the 14 directly on top of the 24 if possible (or even the 3.5" 22). It seems like the 14 might be pretty close, and maybe you will just need to add 1" of the 19 or 21 below (or above) it. I guess you will have some combinations to try. It probably adds some softness that you want, but maybe not quite enough depth to keep from hitting the firm surface below. Good luck and keep us informed! |
wow must be stupid cant figue out how he did the slide show link lol http://img402.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img402/5576/1296511255jgh.smil well if this works here is what weve done so far |