Back pain continues :( Why?
Jul 5, 2011 10:04 AM
Joined: Jun 8, 2011
Points: 100
Hi everyone!

A brief history:

  • Historically, I have always slept on rather cheap mattresses and rather cheap toppers. Maybe not luxurious sleep & not in love with these mattresses, but no pain.
  • About two years ago, my husband and I purchased the Westin Heavenly Bed king. It was GREAT for about a year, and then it began sagging and leaving body impressions in the topper. And that's when the pain began.
  • By about six months ago, it was so bad I was sleeping in the guest room.
  • I did a great deal of research and decided that latex was about the best money could buy (good latex, that is).
  • I really wanted the 8" latex bed from Sovn (Berkeley Ergonomics), but they are like $3,000+ for a king and we did not have that kind of budget.
  • About a month ago, we finally decided on the 8" latex from SleepEZ. Top to bottom: 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop / 3" firm dunlop / foundation. It has the thin cover- not the 1" wool b/c I didn't want any more body impressions.
  • I am ~5'7" / 170lbs / stomach and side sleeper. My husband is ~6' / 220lbs / side and back sleeper. We are in our early 30's.
  • The back pain is usually middle back area- the muscles on either side of my spine. When I first get up I can hardly breath. Then throughout the day it gets better.

Needless to say, based on all I'd read, I had high hopes for this mattress from SleepEZ. But, to date, we just can't seem to get it right and I am still waking up with back pain.

  • Shawn's original recommendation of 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop / 3" firm dunlop was hard as a rock!
  • We shifted the middle layer up b/c for some reason, I seem to prefer the dunlop- it seems more conforming? So- 3" med dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" firm dunlop was ok. Not so much back pain, but not super comfy either and felt like you were bottoming out. I felt like this combo was pretty good, but just needed something softer on top.
  • Finally, my parents gave us a 2" soft dunlop topper to put on top and hopefully eliminate the bottoming out feel. Putting that on top was ok for me, but gave my husband back pain.
  • A few nights ago, I tried this combo: 2" soft dunlop / 3" firm dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop. Good for my husband. Terrible pain for me. Too firm???
  • Last night I went with: my side  2" soft dunlop / 3" med dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" firm dunlop. And my husband's 2" soft dunlop / 3" firm dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop. Still pain for me.

So, I am running out of ideas and combinations. I was really hoping the latex would provide me with pain free sleep. I really have no idea what to do now! Now that I have been up a few hours, my back is fine, but when I first woke up today, my first breath in was so painful b/c the musles in my middle back were not happy at all.

Any comments, ideas, or recommendations would be much appreciated!

I've also read that elevating the top end of your bed might help. Any truth to that?

Re: Back pain continues :( Why?
Reply #1 Jul 5, 2011 11:54 AM
Joined: Aug 5, 2010
Points: 227
I don't have any ideas about using the layers you have but it sounds like your bottom is sinking more than the other parts when sleeping on your side causing spinal mis-alignment and subsequently pain.  You need more support for your bottom area.  I would say you were/are a prime candidate for zoned layers but with what you have, I'm not sure that is possible unless your cut up the layers you have or swap or buy others.  I also would find a way to use talalay layers in the top for your comfort layers.  If you have to do an exchange with Sleepez.  I'm sure others will have better suggestions.
Re: Back pain continues :( Why?
Reply #2 Jul 5, 2011 6:53 PM
Joined: Aug 31, 2007
Points: 793
I feel you need a soft topper over firmer layers and I would try the firmest layer on top since usually back pain is from layers not supportive enough.
Re: Back pain continues :( Why?
Reply #3 Jul 5, 2011 7:25 PM
Joined: Jun 8, 2011
Points: 100
This is what I thought too! But, I tell you- the 2" soft / 3" firm dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop hurt the worst! :( I thought have thought that would be best!

Lynn2006 wrote:

I feel you need a soft topper over firmer layers and I would try the firmest layer on top since usually back pain is from layers not supportive enough.



 

Re: Back pain continues :( Why?
Reply #4 Jul 9, 2011 12:03 AM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
Points: 1161
You wrote:

"Finally, my parents gave us a 2" soft dunlop topper to put on top and hopefully eliminate the bottoming out feel. Putting that on top was ok for me, but gave my husband back pain.

A few nights ago, I tried this combo: 2" soft dunlop / 3" firm dunlop / 2" med talalay / 3" med dunlop. Good for my husband. Terrible pain for me. Too firm??"
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i thought SleepEZ mattresses were different on each side but from what you are saying I gather they are not or at least the one you have is not.

It sounds like what you need is one feel for your side of the mattress and a different feel for your husband's side.

I struggled with similar problems for years and although I now have my mattress "mostly" good, I still wake up with back pain, especially if I am in bed more than 8 hours.

Personally I think maybe you - like my wife and I - might not be a candidate for a pure latex mattress. You might need springs or something springy under your latex layers. So if you can still return the SleepEZ, I would certainly consider that option before it's too late (if it's not already).

You might also try buying some 1-2" latex layers to fit each half or your mattress so that you can customize the feel for you and your husband.

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