Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Jul 1, 2008 1:12 AM
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hi all,

my wife and i have been arduously searching for a new bed, so i've been poring over this forum for the last few days and have founds loads of great info - thanks to all for their contributions.

initially we were interested in the Simmons Black stuff - the Florence with the 2" memory foam topper - but it seemed awfully overpriced, and reading accounts of poor Simmons quality and the failings of pillowtop beds has pretty much ruled that out. there is a similar bed in the World Class line for much less (the Depere or Belmont depending on where you shop) but we are wary of pillow tops now.

we thought we liked firm beds (my wife often likes to sleep on the floor to mix things up), but we're realizing we need a little more compliance and support as we get older. so a foam top with a firm underpinning seems ideal.

this lead us to the Comfor-Pedic Natural. we really like it, and are ready to pull the trigger on it. (yes, i know i could "roll my own" foam bed for much less but that is not an option for various reasons.) my only question is about how the foam will hold up over the course of several years. i have heard Tempur-pedics hold up very well, and after a few years of typical use feel almost like new. my wife and i are both relatively small and light (under 150lbs). the composition of the Comfor-Pedic is:

3 1/2" 5.5 LB NXG Advanced Memory Foam (their supposedly proprietary "vacuum-sealed chamber" stuff)
2" 24 ILD Latex Foam
5 1/2" 30 ILD Base Foam 

do you guys think this is quality foam that should stay resilient for some time? i guess the NXG stuff is a bit of an unknown, but given the cost, we're optimistically hoping to get about 8-10 years of quality use out of it. thoughts/opinions much appreciated.

thanks,
marc
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #1 Jul 1, 2008 1:34 AM
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Do a search on the forum for complaints on memory foam beds.  They don't last and cause pain after the memory foam wears out (less than a year).

Most people here put toppers on the bed, due to short life of the new beds with cheap foam inside.
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #2 Jul 1, 2008 2:27 AM
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hi Leo,

thanks for your reply. while i appreciate the input, i'm not sure such a blanket statement about memory foam is necessarily 100% accurate. my wife has a good friend who is the 2nd owner of a Tempurpedic, which she acquired when it was about a year old. it's now around 4 years old and she's 100% happy with it - it feels like the day she got it. my wife has slept a night on this bed and said it was extremely comfortable as well. to each their own of course, but i have also felt this bed and it did not seem worn out in the slightest. perhaps the people who developed back aches from memory foam were just not suited to it in the first place? or is long-term satisfaction a well-documented issue with memory foam?

cheers,
marc
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #3 Jul 2, 2008 3:01 PM
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I had comfort for less than a year with my Sealy bed, which had 5" memory foam.  It had bottomed out and I was sleeping on the poly base.  No backaches, hip pain and bad!

You are stuck with what is glued to your bed.  This is my opinion and the opinion of some others.  I wish you luck.  Glad someone is happy with their memory foam beds.  I was not.
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #4 Jul 2, 2008 11:00 PM
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hi Leo,

i might agree with you after all. my wife and i went to yet another Sleepy's today. we tried a Vera Wang latex that was on sale for $1999. i thought it was ok, my wife really liked it. but somehow i didn't feel confident it was a bed i could sleep on for months to come, much less years. anyway, i put a refundable deposit on it.

we then stopped by the flagship Sleepy's store in NYC, on 5th avenue. we wanted to try the Comfor-Pedic one more time, and maybe feel some other latex models. they had the Comfor-Pedic Natural model that we liked, but it felt nothing like the 2 we tried at other stores. the top layer (their "NxG" foam) had gone to mush, and it lacked support. after lying for more than 3 minutes i felt an odd tingling in my lower back, which felt like it would develop into pain if i laid there longer. not sure what it was, but i had never had that sensation on a new mattress before - my best guess was i was getting incorrect support and a nerve was getting pinched.

this store is huge and seems to get a lot of business, so i can only guess this particular bed was more broken in than the others we had tried. whatever the problem, it was not confidence-inspiring to say the least, especially for a $3k mattress. my wife was disappointed as well, and i think Comfor-Pedic is out of the running now. :(

so, back to square one... sigh.

cheers,
marc
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #5 Jul 3, 2008 5:03 PM
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Have you done a google search on Sleepy's complaints?  I seem to remember a website consumer affairs or something that had complaints on it.  Also I have read the the synthetic latex by Sealy or Vera Wang doesn't seem to hold up, i.e. body impressions made just like the other mattresses.  Yes, everyone has different opinions, and different reactions.  But, I think the 5" memory foam was too much of a good thing for me.  I will never go beyond 3" (at least for now).

Good luck finding a bed, I don't know if I could find one
update!
Reply #6 Jul 17, 2008 2:26 PM
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well... after considerable aggravation, my wife and i went with a tempurpedic classic. a friend who's had it for a few years likes it a lot, and tho it has softened slightly he said it was still supportive. i bought it at sleepy's, despite my reservations

first impression was of the overwhelming chemical stench of course, which nearly 2 weeks of airing out later has subsided into a still noticeable but more tolerable odor. but, here's the kicker - while my wife has been sleeping very restfully, i have yet to wake up without a back ache. i like the way it feels when i get in bed, but when i get up in the morning i'm tired and my lower back is sore. so, it looks like this mattress is not going to work for me.

i think i might just have to go with a firm spring mattress w/minimal foam, and add a couple inches of memory foam after all... sigh... will do some searching, but any spring mattress recommendations off the bat?

cheers,
marc
Re: update!
Reply #7 Jul 18, 2008 6:22 PM
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I'm not too keen on memory foam, so I can't help you there. My only experience has been a couple toppers from 1-2". Felt okay at first, but then caused lower back issues.

Do you have any small (or large) independent mattress companies in your area? They will usually "build a bed" to your specifications. Or at least have models from their version of the "fluffiest" to the "flattest" that might not look as "purdy" on the outside as the Big S offerings---but use more quality materials. I remember years ago when I was mattress-hunting I visited a couple of these small manufacturers. Too bad I had already been sucked into the hype that a mattress needed to look like a frosted cake. I was disappointed in the simple and nothing-special-looking designs of these no-name mattresses. I wanted FLUFF and fancy Belgian damask with gorgeous scrolling designs. I didn't even bother to learn about what was INSIDE these no-nonsense mattresses. So I left. Instead, I bought an oooohhhh-so-comfortable (in the store) pillow top that resembled a fabric cloud. Well, as you probably guessed, it didn't turn out to be what I had hoped for.

So, now I'm more apt to take a closer look at some of these no-name, non-designer brand mattress manufacturers. In fact, I did find my own version of "build a bed" right here in my own hometown. I was even more fortunate to have found a mattress there which is the ultimate in "custom". They start with a nice cover that I chose. The size I want and then I can also choose what I want inside. That can be with or without springs. They usually use pocketed coils, but I chose the LuraFlex open offset coil instead. You can have all latex or part latex and a high grade PU foam. Or all latex without coils like the online companies have. Your choice. And, it comes with a zipper. I love that aspect and I took full advantage of it the first few months, working at creating just the right "feel" for my body. And, they can make dual sides if you have a partner. Or like me, we chose two XL Twins within one King frame. Works great for us! Wouldn't even know it's not one King bed. I also found a topper that we find adds just the right amount of "cush". As for coils, I sent you the link from Leggett-Platt that explains more about them.Personally, I would stay away from the Marshall coil. The open, offest like I have is sturdy, but acts somewhat independently. Having two XL twins together also helps with movement.

Anyway, if you can find a store that has its own "brand" and hopefully can build to your specs, that's the way I would go. Forget the mainstream mattress companies. That's exactly why my mattress builder chose to open his own store. He used to "push" those name brands at a large store and one day he said he was fed up with lying to the public.

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nabby wrote:
well... after considerable aggravation, my wife and i went with a tempurpedic classic. a friend who's had it for a few years likes it a lot, and tho it has softened slightly he said it was still supportive. i bought it at sleepy's, despite my reservations

first impression was of the overwhelming chemical stench of course, which nearly 2 weeks of airing out later has subsided into a still noticeable but more tolerable odor. but, here's the kicker - while my wife has been sleeping very restfully, i have yet to wake up without a back ache. i like the way it feels when i get in bed, but when i get up in the morning i'm tired and my lower back is sore. so, it looks like this mattress is not going to work for me.

i think i might just have to go with a firm spring mattress w/minimal foam, and add a couple inches of memory foam after all... sigh... will do some searching, but any spring mattress recommendations off the bat?

cheers,
marc
This message was modified Jul 18, 2008 by BeddyBye
Re: Comfor-Pedic foam durability?
Reply #8 Dec 22, 2009 2:36 AM
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Well nabby all I can tell you is that you made a good choice by staying away from Comforpedic by Simmons.  I believe Simmons purchased this mattress design from a company in Fife, Wash. approximatly 2 years ago. I bought a queen size mattress and foundation from the original manufacturer in Fife in March of  '06.  In the first year and a half, since the foam had broken down so badly,  I had the mattress replaced 2 times and the foundation one time. By the 3rd time it needed replacing, Simmons had taken over and luckily honored any warrantees. They replaced the mattress and set me up with a newly designed foundation. I am currently waiting for Simmons to warrantee my Comforpedic mattress for the 4th time since I bought it in march of '06.  So far they have been good about replacement, we'll see what happens this time.  I wish I could just get my money back. It would save us both time and money!

On another note my son bought a memory foam mattress from Costco for a 3rd of the price and is very happy with it. 

This message was modified Dec 22, 2009 by rexford