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Since I'm considering replacing my mattress with a latex one, I did price comparisons between a few different companies who sell IL Talalay Latex, which I thought I'd share for those of you who are interested. Comparison Prices for a Queen size mattress configuration, 100% natural IL Talalay Latex, approx. 8": SleepEZ 10000 model, consists of 3 layers (your ILD preference) x 2.8" each, for a total thickness of 8.4". Cover: Includes a Cotton Damask zipper Cover Quilted to lambs wool. Shipping: Free delivery via FedEx Return policy: 90 day layer switch out policy on latex mattresses. Return any one of the layers in your mattress in exchange for a layer of different firmness. We pay shipping of new layer to you, and you pay shipping back. Shipping is approximately $30 depending on location. Cost: $1645 Flobeds Posture Select model. Consists of a 2" convoluted topper, and 2 x 2-3/4" layers for a total thickness of 8-1/2". Cover: Includes a cotton damask wool backed cover. Shipping: If we don't ship when indicated, we pay the freight. Shipping from CA to NY $99. Return policy: If you are not 100% satisfied with the firmness you select, we will help you re-select. Or we will give your money back. Either way you will only pay the freight. Cost: $1799 + shipping Sleeplikeabear Configure your own from their selection of toppers from 14 - 36 ILD, additional $15 for 40 & 44 ILD. 2 x 3" = $882 + 1 x 2" + $314, total thickness 8". Cover: Not included. Shipping: Free, via UPS Ground. Return policy: Typically a 30 day guarantee, depending on item purchased. You may receive a refund of your purchase less the total of what we paid for shipping and a reasonable fee for processing or handling your order. If you paid for shipping, you may receive a refund of your purchase less only the processing or handling fee. Must request RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization), include original invoice, and in most cases repack items in original shipping cartons. Return shipping is paid by the customer. Cost: $1196 RockyMountainMattress Offers only Medium Plush (16-18 ILD, 2" $210, 3" $295) and Medium Firm (32 ILD, 2" $230, 3" 320) toppers. Configured with 2 x 3" Medium Firm and 1 x 2" Medium Plush, total thickness 8". Cover: Not included. Shipping: Toppers shipped free. Return policy: 30-night trial on all mattresses, return policy on toppers not stated. Cancellation policy: Orders that are cancelled within 24 of being placed are not subject to a cancellation fee. Orders cancelled after that time are subject to a fee - see website for specifics. Cost: $850 FOAMSWEETFOAM Natural Plus Special. Three layers of full 3" (9" total). Choose from 4 firmness levels of your choice. Cover: Cotton, bamboo, and wool quilted cover. Shipping: Free. Return policy: Within 30 days of the invoice date, you may exchange one latex layer of the mattress - one time. We will pay for the freight charges of the exchanged layer. The customer is responsible for packaging and paying for freight charges of the returned item back to Foam Sweet Foam. Within 60 days of the invoice date, you may return the purchase. There is an 18% return fee for any returned item. The customer is responsible for packaging and shipping charges. Cost: $1599 Arizona Premium Mattress Co. Queen 6" 100% All Natural Talalay Latex Core. Your choice of firmness, #22 super soft, #28 soft, #36 medium and #42 firm; 2" topper #22 ILD $229 Cover: Not included. Shipping: FedEx Ground - $129 from AZ to NY. Return policy: Core - 30 day satisfaction guarantee less all shipping costs; Topper - not returnable. Cost: Core - $995, current sale price: $795; Topper $229 = $1149 + shipping. This message was modified Feb 17, 2010 by narnia
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terrific post! I am going to try one of the Costco compostites...... at least I can return it! Alice |
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In the interest of completeness, I would like to add one company: FOAMSWEETFOAM Natural Plus Special. Three layers of full 3 inch ( 9 inches) plus cotton and wool cover for a total of 10 inches. 100% Natural talalay, 30 year warranty. Choose from 4 firmness levels of your choice. Cost = $1599. This message was modified Feb 13, 2010 by markbnh1
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markbnh1 thanks for your addition, and if anyone else has another vendor please post their info as well! I'm tying to keep my list as uniform as possible, with vendors using natural Talalay and building a mattress of about 8" thick for comparison purposes. Keep in mind these vendors have different return policies, which has to be taken into consideration in deciding where to make your purchase. As you can see, it really does pay to be an educated consumer, as Rocky Mountain is about half the cost SleepEZ charges for a similar item. |
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You have to look a the cost of the mattress cover and the return policy as well. The cost of the wool filled covers are pretty expensive, I believe around $250-350 (depending in part if you want organic). 100% naturual will cost more than blended talalay or dunlop. Flobeds has a great exchange and return policy, and more options in firmness to choose from. It comes with a nice cover too. Sleepez, foamsweetfoam, and sleeplikeabear have various return and exchange policies as well. Sleepez and foamsweetfoam will come with a nice cover. Having said that, rockymountainmattress is a good deal for the 2 and 3" pieces, but you cannot return them. I have purchased from them and the quality is good. My pieces are actually slightly thicker than they were suppose to be. They don't have many options for firmness, but it is possible if you call them you can get some different firmness levels. I am not 100% sure that it is 100% natural talalay, since there are not labels, but they claim it is and most likely it is. I assume the dunlop is 100% natural. |
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Not all latex are created equally! Check out makers and how they create their latex & what chemicals they use. For example: Sleep EZ... 100% natural latex made by LatexGreen: http://www.latexgreen.com/fr.html
Looking for more info as to the process/chemicals used in these 100% natural items to find that truly is. Conclusion: There is a reason why a mattress costs $1000 vs $2000, just have to dig up info that you are not paying more for same product. |
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| They do sell different types of latex, but the 10000 mattress from SleepEZ priced at $1645 uses the 100% Natural Talalay Process. |
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This is one of those "Gotcha" questions! When you're comparing prices you need to consider the total cost to you of purchasing a latex bed online if for any reason you do not like your original configuration, or ultimately decide that you want to return it and get your money back. You need to consider what the cost will be for transportation costs, and how many exchanges will be allowed. The chance that you will not want to exchange at least one layer are mighty slim. The best regarding exchanges and return policy is FloBeds, by a wide margin. Instead of just looking at the initial cost for the mattress, do a price comparison for exchanges, and what is their policy on returns if you don't like the mattress. How much time will they give you to make up your mind? How much will the shipping cost be? Once you have done this calculation, and only after you have done this calculation, consider the initial price of the mattress. I exchanged 4 different layers on my FloBeds before I was completely satisfied. At the end of their 90 day "sleep test" had I not like my mattress I could have gotten the full refund of my money, less shipping charges back to California. Deal with a company that has a excellent BBB rating, and when they say they're selling you latex, whether that is 100% natural, or a blended latex, make sure it is from a reputable manufacturer and that it is ( in the case of all natural) botanically grown natural latex. Latex International is the company that I would want to produce my latex. This message was modified Feb 15, 2010 by eagle2
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Yes....yes....to all the suggestions. We purchased organic & 100% natural Dunlap latex beds for our kids a year ago from Savvy Rest and didn't do any exchanges. Everyone has been happy. Now, we are trying to decide what to do for us since our sleep number bed has failed up after using for few years. (Luckily, we sold it well since it looked brand new/clean/etc.) I like that Savvy Rest has all the ECO certifications plus a chemical analysis available right on their website to back the products that they are selling. They have 90 day window for exchanges but no refunds. (This I didn't like but have been pleased with quality of the products.) I do like that the replacement layers are at only $75 if you purchase directly from them. We have been also looking at SleepEZ, much less expensive, 90 day exchanges & refund! Minus shipping of course. BUT replacement cost for layers shows to be at least DOUBLE of that from Savvy Rest. We are looking at the BIG picture. We don't want to fork out so much money when our backs start hurting again in couple of years, nice to know you can just replace the layers at a fraction of the cost & the 100% natural latex is biodegradable, so that makes me feel good about the environment that we are leaving for our kids. |
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eagle2 wrote: You need to consider what the cost will be for transportation An example is <a href="http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/">Latex Mattress Company</a> which offers BOTH sewn and zipper cover mattresses. The sewn cover models require motor freight shipping. The zipper model components can be shipped via less expensive UPS. BBB <a href="http://www.bbb.org/central-northern-western-arizona/business-reviews/mattresses/mattress-liquidation-specialists-in-phoenix-az-87001307/">report</a>. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/aImrR_G0Pkk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/aImrR_G0Pkk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> |
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eagle2 wrote: This is one of those "Gotcha" questions! When you're comparing prices you need to consider the total cost to you of purchasing a latex bed online if for any reason you do not like your original configuration, or ultimately decide that you want to return it and get your money back. You need to consider what the cost will be for transportation costs, and how many exchanges will be allowed. The chance that you will not want to exchange at least one layer are mighty slim. The best regarding exchanges and return policy is FloBeds, by a wide margin. Instead of just looking at the initial cost for the mattress, do a price comparison for exchanges, and what is their policy on returns if you don't like the mattress. How much time will they give you to make up your mind? How much will the shipping cost be? Once you have done this calculation, and only after you have done this calculation, consider the initial price of the mattress. I exchanged 4 different layers on my FloBeds before I was completely satisfied. At the end of their 90 day "sleep test" had I not like my mattress I could have gotten the full refund of my money, less shipping charges back to California. Deal with a company that has a excellent BBB rating, and when they say they're selling you latex, whether that is 100% natural, or a blended latex, make sure it is from a reputable manufacturer and that it is ( in the case of all natural) botanically grown natural latex. Latex International is the company that I would want to produce my latex. Eagle2 is right. You have to consider shipping costs and the return warranty/ sleep trial and any shipping cost involved in that as well. And of course quality of the latex and reliability and customer service of the store/company. |
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narnia wrote: Since I'm considering replacing my mattress with a latex one, I did price comparisons between a few different companies who sell IL Talalay Latex, which I thought I'd share for those of you who are interested. Prices for a Queen size configuration - SleepEZ 10000 model, consists of 3 layers (your ILD preference, and includes a quilted cotton cover) x 2.8" each, for a total thickness of 8.4". Cost: $1645 Flobeds Posture Select model, comes with a cotton damask wool backed cover. Consists of a 2" convoluted topper, and 2 x 2-3/4" layers for a total thickness of 8-1/2". Cost: $1799, currently on sale for $1699 Sleeplikeabear Configure your own from their selection of toppers from 14 - 36 ILD, additional $15 for 40 & 44 ILD. 2 x 3" = $882 + 1 x 2" + $314, total thickness 8". Cost: $1196 RockyMountainMattress Offers only Medium Plush (16-18 ILD, 2" $210, 3" $295) and Medium Firm (32 ILD, 2" $230, 3" 320) toppers. Configured with 2 x 3" Medium Firm and 1 x 2" Medium Plush, total thickness 8". Cost: $850 Narnia, can you edit your original post please with the suggestions and the return policy, shipping rates? Then send a PM to the Admin to put this on the "Highlighted Threads" this would be helpful for anyone shopping for latex mattresses. Thanks. |
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eagle2 wrote: Deal with a company that has a excellent BBB rating <a href="http://www.bbb.org/us/Find-Business-Reviews/">Better Business Bureau</a> reports: <a href="http://www.bbb.org/central-northern-western-arizona/business-reviews/mattresses/sleep-e-z-in-tempe-az-10001797/">SleepEZ</a> <a href="http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-francisco/business-reviews/mattresses/flobeds-in-fort-bragg-ca-15241">Flobeds</a> <a href="http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-reviews/mattress-retailers/dream-systems-lc-in-lehi-ut-22213718">Rocky Mountain Mattress</a> <a href="http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/Foam-Sweet-Foam-13201361">Foam Sweet Foam</a> <a href="http://www.bbb.org/richmond/business-reviews/mattresses/the-savvy-sleeper-in-charlottesville-va-63389378/">Savvy Rest</a> <a href="http://www.bbb.org/eastern-michigan/business-reviews/manufacturers-and-producers/foam-factory-inc-in-clinton-township-mi-25000192/">Foam By Mail</a> This message was modified Feb 15, 2010 by sager66
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| This is a great post. It is free of personal bias, and focused on details. Very helpful. |
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sager66 wrote: An example is <a href="http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/">Latex Mattress Company</a> which offers BOTH sewn and zipper cover mattresses. The sewn cover models require motor freight shipping. The zipper model components can be shipped via less expensive UPS. BBB <a href="http://www.bbb.org/central-northern-western-arizona/business-reviews/mattresses/mattress-liquidation-specialists-in-phoenix-az-87001307/">report</a>. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/aImrR_G0Pkk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/aImrR_G0Pkk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> This is a very interesting video sager66, as per usual you do an excellent job of providing interesting links. This company offers an enticing price for their mattresses. Unfortunately they also get an F. rating from the BBB. Were it not for your link to the BBB site I could not have looked this co. up as the name they put on their website is "Arizona Premium Mattress Company." I could not find anything under this name. They are listed at the BBB as "Mattress Liquidation Specialists." After viewing their BBB record I can see why they're trying to hide. When I see pricing this low for a 100% natural latex mattress I am always suspicious. The rest of your information is quite beneficial however. Thank you. This message was modified Feb 16, 2010 by eagle2
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I have chronic back pain, and I've wasted far too much money on bad mattresses over the last 12-14 years or so. So while it is important to me to save money, it is even more important to not waste money. All of the companies on your list sell a similar quality product, and if I had any confidence I knew how to solve my pain issues I would have chosen one of the lower priced ones. The reason I chose the higher priced FloBeds was not because it has a better product - I have no reason to think that is true - but because of the superior exchange and return policy. It is worth something to me to be sure I'm not throwing my money down the drain yet again. I can work and work and work on this bed to get it right, and if I'm still not comfortable at the end of 3 months I can send it back. For me this is a win-win situation and worth paying a premium for. If the mattress works for me it will be money well spent. If it doesn't, I'll move on from latex entirely but will have the cash to put toward something else. I'm not saying one company is a better choice or value than the others - that probably depends more on what each of us is looking for. But FloBeds mattresses come with something that costs extra and has value to me. So a direct comparison based on thickness and price doesn't capture the whole story. Linda |
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eagle2 wrote: Were it not for your link to the BBB site I could not have looked this co. up as the name they put on their website is "Arizona Premium Mattress Company." I could not find anything under this name. They are listed at the BBB as "Mattress Liquidation Specialists." After viewing their BBB record I can see why they're trying to hide. There is a LOT of debate on how fair the BBB grading system is . . <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=bbb+unfair&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&oq=bbb+unfair&fp=c26c79a56c95bda8">Google search</a>. In the case of this company, an "F" rating for "Failure to respond to 1 complaint filed against business" in 17 years of business history does seem just a tad harsh. As with numerous other vendors, they are definitely guilty of "gaming the search engine system" with multiple websites . . <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=%28888%29+773-7326&start=10&sa=N&fp=c26c79a56c95bda8">phone number search</a>. 2-17-10 edit . . I stand corrected! : "we don't have a call center in Nevada. All calls are answered in California and all our latex foam products are shipped by us." This message was modified Feb 18, 2010 by a moderator
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Sager you make a valid argument. However, their pricing for quality latex leaves them vulnerable to legitimate questioning. Here is information on how the BBB does there rating. http://www.bbb.org/business-reviews/ratings/overview.html I have no desire to defend the BBB, or any other large organization. By nature I tend to suspect large organizations. Where lots of money and prestige are present corruption usually seeps in. I was a member of Consumers Union, publishers of Consumers Reports, for over 40 years. I saw some of their reports that looked quite suspect to me but others that were quite helpful. But over the years I saw them drift more and more towards the upper strata of our very influential society. Finally I got disgusted with it when they reported on hundred thousand dollar plus automobiles and I rescinded my subscription. But the problem is where do little folks go to get accurate information on anything. Thus, the importance of boards like this one. Where individuals who have no ax to grind (hopefully) can state their actual experiences for others to evaluate. I have respected your opinions most of the time. You can express them in a rather sarcastic fashion some of the time, however I feel your pain, as some of the questions placed on this board can be not only overly redundant but actually ridiculous. But I have found your opinions, in the main, to be quite accurate. Therefore I appreciate your input. This message was modified Feb 18, 2010 by a moderator
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These prices for the Arizona Mattress Company do seem amazing. And look at the prices on these Dunlop cores: http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/latex-cores-natural-7-zoned-dunlop.html I'm tempted. |
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Thanks Narnia for updating this posting. Great. Thanks. This message was modified Feb 19, 2010 by Leo3
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| I bought 1 layer of latex from sleeplikeabear before and ended up returning it. I didn't have any problem dealing with them (got a refund less shipping and handling) and it seemed like it came from and went back to their same address in California. |
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Leo3 wrote: Narnia, can you edit your original post please with the suggestions and the return policy, shipping rates? Then send a PM to the Admin to put this on the "Highlighted Threads" this would be helpful for anyone shopping for latex mattresses. Thanks. Leo3 I've updated my original post and send a PM to the Admin. Sorry about the formatting, I copied and when I pasted and the formatting got messed up, and I was trying to insert hyperlinks for all the websites but it wouldn't work for some reason.  Oh well, it's still readable! |
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I was just looking at the Arizona Mattress Company, I thought the queen was $1,095 with a cover: http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/quadulpllasl.html |
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| Their Plush Latex Sleep System mattress is made with 60/40 blended Latex International Talatech® latex. My list only includes 100% All Natural Talalay Latex. |
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narnia wrote: Leo3 I've updated my original post and send a PM to the Admin. Sorry about the formatting, I copied and when I pasted and the formatting got messed up, and I was trying to insert hyperlinks for all the websites but it wouldn't work for some reason. Oh well, it's still readable!Highlight the word you want to have the URL associated with, and then go up to the toolbar above the message you are typing; and click on the link button and enter the address, this will set the hyperlink. (Bill posted instructions, I searched the forum). I will try it here and see it if works: Foamsweetfoam it worked! Took a few times to get it right. I ended up just copying the website I wanted and pasted it in. Let us know what you end up for a new mattress. This message was modified Feb 18, 2010 by Leo3
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Narnia, Something I noticed after making that hyperlink for Foamsweetfoam and visiting the website, I see they only sell natural talalay from Latex International. That would be a higher price than blended talalay. You might note that in your list. Are you looking for blended, or natural? Okay I see on your list you say natural latex, but Sleeplikeabear sells only blended latex right now. So you are comparing two different latex types. Just thought you would want to know. Unless you called them and got the price for natural, I believe they will order it for you, more than likely a higher price. Don't know about the other vendors. This message was modified Feb 18, 2010 by Leo3
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Leo3, Sleeplikeabear has Latex International’s Talatech Talalay latex toppers: http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/talatech_toppers The 3" toppers are $441 each for Queen size. Are these blended? If so that's a lot to charge! PS -Thanks, I know how to create hyperlink, but it's just not working for me. I tried with Firefox and IE, and I just can't get it to work! |
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narnia wrote: I know how to create hyperlink, but it's just not working for me. I tried with Firefox and IE, and I just can't get it to work! HTML <a href="http://www.psacake.com/web/dy.asp">Cheat Sheet</a> |
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narnia wrote: Leo3, Sleeplikeabear has Latex International’s Talatech Talalay latex toppers: http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/talatech_toppers The 3" toppers are $441 each for Queen size. Are these blended? If so that's a lot to charge! PS -Thanks, I know how to create hyperlink, but it's just not working for me. I tried with Firefox and IE, and I just can't get it to work! If you know how to hyperlink it should work LOL. I used Firefox. Cut & paste the URL. As Jim said in another post, you have to click post, THEN go back in and edit and enter the URL again. It just is a strange system here. Have you looked at Foamsource for natural latex. All latex prices have gone way up over the year. This message was modified Feb 18, 2010 by Leo3
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Thanks Leo3, I just checked prices on Foamsource and they're very expensive. A 2" Queen 100% Natural Latex topper is $349 and 3" is $529 (w/free cover). And thanks for the tip on hyperlinks, I'll play around with that when I have time.  |
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Have you looked at sleepwarehouse? 28-30ILD natural latex $349. Some places do not say where the latex comes from, which is suspect to me. Some websites do not list Latex International as the supplier; the websites that do list LI as supplier are Sleeplikeabear, Flobeds, Foamsweetfoam, Sleepeze, Foamsource, there may be more out there. Which leads me to believe that may be the reason for the higher cost. Note: this is only speculation and is strictly my own personal opinion. Not subject to ridicule, LOL. We consumers have to question if the supplier is not mentioned in the website. They should be proud of the supplier. Then I have no experience on other latex manufacturers quality. So as I said this is my opinion only. I just wonder why some latex is higher cost than another. Maybe there are different grades of latex. Since my O-stock is a lower grader (as is FBM) as in flaws that can explain low costs. I have no experience with any of them but O-stock latex. Which some of my layers are excellent quality, but alas no idea of the ILD, except for the one that was labeled 24LD from LI, which is why I like LI, it was good quality; but too soft for my hip. Which brings me to why I am rambling, I can only sleep 2-3 hours at a time, I wake up in pain from side sleeping on my hips. But my back has been in horrible pain because of moving latex layers off and putting them in the closet, and bending over. I am tired and need some relief. I just changed the layers in the bed two days in a row, since I was in such pain. I would do that again today except I am so tired I can't. This message was modified Feb 19, 2010 by Leo3
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Sleepwarehouse sells Dunlop Latex. I'm not sure it's true because I have no experience with it, but I've read that Talalay is better quality and will last longer. Oddly RM doesn't state who manufacturers their latex, but as I mentioned in my other thread, my topper from RM has "Latex International" stamped on the side. I agree websites should give this information to their customers, but you know Leo3, some consumers don't take the time to educate themselves and do their homework, so they don't know the difference or even care! What kind of flaws does your O-stock have? Even vendors who sell IL say that slight flaws and flaking might be noticeable. As for the difference in cost, if vendors selling a specific brand/size/ILD, like a LI latex 2" #24ILD topper, then aren't they all selling exactly the same product? I would think so, and then the higher cost is just a larger mark-up. But I guess there's latex made elsewhere, like in China, that would generally be less expensive. JC Penney has very nice 100% natural latex pillows on sale for $35, and they're made in China. Maybe their latex doesn't hold up as well, but it looks like it would be comfortable. I feel for you, sometimes I sleep only 2-3 hours at a time but that's because I have cats. I'm sure it's a lot worse when you're waking up due to pain! Have you tried a convoluted topper? It's supposed to relieve pressure, so maybe that would help you. What kind of mattress pad do you have on top of everything? |
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narnia wrote: Sleepwarehouse sells Dunlop Latex. I'm not sure it's true because I have no experience with it, but I've read that Talalay is better quality and will last longer. Oddly RM doesn't state who manufacturers their latex, but as I mentioned in my other thread, my topper from RM has "Latex International" stamped on the side. I agree websites should give this information to their customers, but you know Leo3, some consumers don't take the time to educate themselves and do their homework, so they don't know the difference or even care! What kind of flaws does your O-stock have? Even vendors who sell IL say that slight flaws and flaking might be noticeable. As for the difference in cost, if vendors selling a specific brand/size/ILD, like a LI latex 2" #24ILD topper, then aren't they all selling exactly the same product? I would think so, and then the higher cost is just a larger mark-up. But I guess there's latex made elsewhere, like in China, that would generally be less expensive. JC Penney has very nice 100% natural latex pillows on sale for $35, and they're made in China. Maybe their latex doesn't hold up as well, but it looks like it would be comfortable. I feel for you, sometimes I sleep only 2-3 hours at a time but that's because I have cats. I'm sure it's a lot worse when you're waking up due to pain! Have you tried a convoluted topper? It's supposed to relieve pressure, so maybe that would help you. What kind of mattress pad do you have on top of everything? When I bought a latex pillow from JC Penney's a year or so ago it was made in USA by Latex International. That is too bad they have made in China there now. I won't buy made in China if I can avoid it. I bought another latex pillow at Sears again made in US by LI. Great quality. As for why they have higher prices than others maybe they don't take returns? I don't know, but I want to make sure they don't take returns because I don't want a used latex layer. Some people it doesn't bother, but it does bother me. So I want to find that out for sure. I know (reading their website) that Sleeplikeabear doesn't resell latex layers. I need to find out about the others too. Do you know? You asked about mattress pads; I tried every brand, type and style you can name. Hated them all, all to stiff, and tight and made my hips hurt worse. I use a plush blanket over the latex, it stays in place believe it or not. It is no warmer than sleeping on a mattress pad that has polyester fiberfill. It is cooler than sleeping on memory foam, I can't take that heat. I wish I could find something else besides the blanket, I would like to find a terry cloth stretch cover that has elastic, not the zipper kind. Never have found that though. I then use jersey sheets, which are not good quality and pill after a few washes. But it stretches with the latex. It seems with all these changes I would be pain free, but nope it isn't to be yet. I need some latex layers that are soft and yet support so I don't hit the hard mattress underneath. Funny when I first lay on the side it is so comfortable, then 2-3 hours pain city. I just don't get it. I am not sure if different ILD will help or not. I don't have a bottomless amount of cash to spend on this. Wish I did. I bought 4-5 layers (twin size so I wouldn't have seams for queen and could have more variety) of latex from O-stock and I do have a variety of firmness. Actually it goes from soft, to too firm. Actually it probably was foolish of me to think this would work, but my budget does dictate my actions. Though some would say I wasted money. Guess I would have to agree and disagree. It has made my back comfortable when sleeping, but I want to sleep on my sides! I guess I should try to build a latex bed, but I can't throw out my flippable mattress. Also I think perhaps it won't improve any with more layers. I had almost 5 1/2" of latex on the mattress at one time, and it didn't make it better. Actually it made the hips less painful, but the back not so much. The springs are still good, and I see no body indentations, it is just a rock! My husband thinks it is just me, but I tell him about this forum that there are lots of people like me here! Some people can sleep on rocks, I am one of the unfortunate ones that can't.  This message was modified Feb 19, 2010 by Leo3
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I try to buy Made in the USA too, but unfortunately that's getting more and more difficult. But that's a topic for a different forum... As for returns, RM has a 30 day trial period for beds, but I'm not sure that toppers are covered by that policy. Frankly I can't imagine rolling up a Queen topper and sending it back, it seems like too much of a hassle. I would just give it to my son or my mom, or put it on my guest bed if they didn't want it. But I would NEVER want recycled latex, ugh, and at these prices it had better not be! I think you'd be able to tell if your latex was recycled, mine looks pristine. I like my 100% cotton pad, but I wanted a zippered cover to stuff all the layers into, so it looked like a traditional mattress and everything stayed in place. I guess a pile of latex doesn't slip much though. When did sleeping become so complicated? Not sure what the difference would be between surgery and just layering foam on top like you're doing now, but If the springs are still good in your bed, would you consider doing surgery? |
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I think the reason people do surgery on their mattresses is they can see lumps or they want to get rid of the PU on top. Since my husband doesn't want me to do that, and I really don't want to either. It looks brand new. But from day one he could sleep on (remember he can sleep on a rock) and I couldn't. Some might think layering over bad foam not to be good, but honestly what does it hurt? It is like a foundation to me, it is as hard as one. Is your cotton pad all cotton filled? I took a recommendation from someone here (shall remain nameless) on the cuddlebed from Costco. Many people like it, I hated it. If the mattress pad is stiff I wouldn't use it on your latex layers, it will change the feel of the latex. I do like the way the latex feels initially when I lay on it, just wish it would last longer than 2-3 hours. I can sleep 4 hours on my back whoopie! I don't know why it is so complicated to get comfortable to sleep. I wish I was a bird and could sleep on a perch LOL! This message was modified Feb 19, 2010 by Leo3
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My pad is cotton filled, cotton top with a poly bottom, and stretchy sides that expands to fit about any mattress. I bought it a while back from LL Bean, in fact they have a similar pad on sale now, and it's not stiff at all. The Cuddlebed looks so comfy, I'm surprised it's stiff. Maybe washing and drying it in a dryer it would soften it up? Yeah I envy my cats, they can sleep anywhere in any position, and I've never heard them complain about a stiff back or neck. We should all be that lucky! |
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narnia wrote: My pad is cotton filled, cotton top with a poly bottom, and stretchy sides that expands to fit about any mattress. I bought it a while back from LL Bean, in fact they have a similar pad on sale now, and it's not stiff at all. The Cuddlebed looks so comfy, I'm surprised it's stiff. Maybe washing and drying it in a dryer it would soften it up? Yeah I envy my cats, they can sleep anywhere in any position, and I've never heard them complain about a stiff back or neck. We should all be that lucky! I just remembered you have a mattress that you are going to throw out, why don't you cut the top off and put the latex layers on that like Sandman and Jim did? You don't have anything to lose, just make sure you protect the latex from the springs with whatever they used on the original mattress. I would if I was throwing the mattress out anyway. Aren't you curious on the foam inside? Just a thought. You haven't ordered all your latex layers yet; instead of another firm latex use the springs. |
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Leo3 wrote: I just remembered you have a mattress that you are going to throw out, why don't you cut the top off and put the latex layers on that like Sandman and Jim did? You don't have anything to lose, just make sure you protect the latex from the springs with whatever they used on the original mattress. I would if I was throwing the mattress out anyway. Aren't you curious on the foam inside? Just a thought. You haven't ordered all your latex layers yet; instead of another firm latex use the springs. What Leo said!  |
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jimsocal wrote: What Leo said! The springs are bad in the mattress, I just noticed they're poking out on one side. I didn't realize it was in such bad shape!  The boxspring looks ok, so last night I threw the mattress out and put the 2" memory foam, 2" 24ILD topper, and cotton pad on top of my boxspring. It's a little low and hard, but I can sleep like this for a few days until I get the rest of the latex. I couldn't stand sleeping in the indentation anymore.By the way, I'm just loving my latex pillows. My son tried them and stole one from me! |
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I don't know how you are sleeping on only 24ILD and memory foam. You can sleep on a rock, you lucky thing! I on the other hand am petrified of making anymore mistakes on beds or chairs. I can't afford to lose anymore money. I don't trust my instincts anymore, I pick chairs and beds that don't work. |
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slindenkohl wrote: Has anyone had personal experience with arizona premium mattress company. How can you really know where the latex is made? http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/latex-mattresses-talalay.html The stamps on my bed cores also said Latex International. Ken at Arizona Premium Mattress Company was great and answered all of my questions about the latex mattress. I didn't know too much about buying a latex mattress so he walked me through all of the considerations that I should make before buying. No pressure at all. They do make each mattress to order so it can take a few weeks. The mattress arrived exactly when they said it would. In the end, I didn't feel that there was any reason I should have purchased a 100% natural latex mattress over the blended one. It is the same molecule after all. The blended beds are a lot less money and fit my budget. Very happy that I could support a small business. Would buy from them again. -Sam |