Does Latex Sag, Indent, or otherwise deteriorate? Is Dunlop better than Talalay in this regard? I am desperately seeking zero body impressions or sag!!
I purchased a zoned talalay latex mattress recently and it already (less than 2 weeks) has 1.25" body impressions in it. Yes, it has wool and cotton on top of it, but it definitely feels as though the latex has sunken in addition to the compression of the wool & cotton. Major bummer.
So I am considering purchasing either the Sam's Club or the Costco latex beds as a replacement. But if latex does have a tendency to permanently indent, I may have to give up the latex dream. I was under the impression ( ha ha ) that latex would not do this.
I would love to hear comments about latex in general in this regard, and any experiences anyone has had with their Costco or Sam's Club American Sleep Organic Latex Mattress, or any other mattress you may have had for a while now that hasn't developed sunken pits. I did read the existing threads on these two beds, but any new or updated comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
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Who made it? Some "latex" mattresses are 3" of latex on top of PU foam. That could be your case. I think the basic answer is no, high quality latex does not sag after a short period. |
I agree, you probably bought something you thought was a latex mattress. My guess is your "latex" mattress is actually a layer of latex on top of cheap PU foam and that the underlying foam is cratering. Look at the content label on the mattress to see what the components are. |
There is no foam in it, it is constructed with 100% talalay latex sourced from Latex International, wrapped in wool, wrapped in cotton. The wool and cotton layers are fairly thick, over an inch each I would approximate. So...the answer is: it is the wool and cotton compressing. I guess I need a mattress with a very thin, if any, layer of wool or cotton on top of the latex. Perhaps some mattress surgery is in order! |
I spent almost all night reviewing posts regarding talalay and dunlop, and I've found several references where folks believe that talalay softens up during the night...once one has slept on it for a few hours. I believe this is what is happening to my mattress, in addition to the wool/cotton compression.
Has anyone ever had this issue with a dunlop mattress? Or a mattress with a primarily dunlop core? |
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I was kind of hanging back to wait to see the responses. My hat's off...very good info given here. One concept I'd like to put into play is that generaly speaking, talalay is by design a softer deeper sensationed type of latex. That is why many of the high end latex manufacturers use a core of dunlap (courser & denser) and then place layers of talalay on top. This takes advantage of the comfortable sensations and luxurious depth of talalay and the dunlap does the majority of the heavy support from under the talalay. This would even be futher inhanced if all were zoned!
I agree a properly cured zoned latex core should not sag. I do believe, however, that a 100% talalay core could have that deeper sensation that may be misread as a sag type of problem. If you have wool compressing it may well simply be an unrelated visual cue unrelated to the sensation of depth.
Gunman This message was modified Oct 5, 2010 by gunman4440
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Does latex soften and and retain heat on a similar level as memory foam? |
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Hope this helps,
Gunman This message was modified Oct 5, 2010 by gunman4440
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Thanks for the input everybody. It felt as though the latex itself would soften after I had laid in one spot sleeping for several hours, it felt as though my hip joint had melted down into it. But I agree, it is difficult to ascertain due to the wool/cotton already being compressed in just that area, and with those layers being so thick in the first place -- the depression was already rather pronounced. They hauled it out of here this morning, so no more of that.
I have placed an order for the Sam's Club American Sleep Organic Mattress. They say it is in stock, but they give no indication whatsoever of when it might be delivered. So the journey continues!
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My experience with latex is that it does indeed soften through the night with body heat it just does't mold like MF. And as soon as it cools, it is firmer again. |
Angel, what mattress did you have? Link please. Which Sam's Club mattress did you order? Link please. At least you can return to Sam's Club if it doesn't work out. Is it the Latex Green one or the Latex International one you ordered? My toppers from Latex Green and Latex International and Dunlopiillo (now gone) have not sagged, or indented any. |
i honestly believe any latex mattress will have to take atleast some minimal compression in the surface. whether someone was using polyurethane foam, polyester fibre, or wool as a fire retardant layer they will all take some compaction in the surface. open up the mattress (if you can) and inspect the actual latex it always looks virtually brand new. This is my experience at looking at any customers bed whether it be latex international, latex green, dunlo-pillo, or green sleep latex cores. I don't know if there is a legal way to build any finished mattress that will not sag one bit. you would almost just have to buy several different layers of latex yourself and get a simple cotton mattress cover for it, this would be the least amount of sag with a latex mattress. Or in my experience it seems that Tempur Pedic mattresses hardly take a body indentation if any...however they do soften up dramatically with useage and do lose some support. |