Mattress Forum

I looked up this bed and unfortunately, it really doesn't clarify what's actually inside of it! It does mention talalay latex, but that could be as little as 1" and lord knows what else is in the layers. For starters, to say that their latex is equivalent to memory foam should be inaccurate. Latex and memory foam are very different foams. Do you prefer memory foam over latex? If you do, have you tried the Tempur Cloud? There are a number of folks who really like that one and it's $2299 for the mattress + foundation in king right now. I do not personally own a Tempurpedic, but I have respect for the brand and least with Tempurpedic, you know what you are getting. Personally, I have nothing against the Ethan Allen, but for the money, I think I'd explore either the Tempur Cloud or somewhere like SleepEZ for either memory foam or latex. It's just risky with the Ethan Allen since they do not really list what's in the bed or what the layers are.

Best of luck!

The description given is much like most of the manufacturers who are using 1-4 inches of talalay latex over a soy-based foam core and, unfortunately, a layer (or layers) of some batting, fibers or something between the cover and the actual latex making it look more like a regular bed.

The idea that a latex bed would be "like" any memory foam option is a clear sign the salesperson does not understand (maybe even know) what it is he/she is selling. This is not meant to be rude (one of my best friends works as a designer at Ethan Allen) just par for the course for many salespeople in my industry. Basics?

Latex - sourced (to varying amounts) from the sap of a rubber tree, springy, quick reacting, usually cooler to the touch and usually the heavier you are the firmer that section gets to be providing a very comfortable cushioning sensation while not allowing you to sink too far. this of course is dependent on the amount of latex and the type of core (foam or springs or more latex), can have a slight to strong rubber smell due to it's source material (a lot more info has been posted on this sight for more detailed specs, sourcing,etc.)

Memory Foam - sourced from petroleum, slow reacting, depending on the manufacturer can be very warm after a time to slight or minor temperature adjustments in your body response (these depend on air flow and other factors). There are many brands, but so far Temperpedic is the only one who has consistently made its product and lasted longer than its warranty with the same (basically) original bed.

They both provide a countouring to your body that helps to alleviate pressure points and still allow proper spinal alignment... this can only be supported with choosing the right model for your needs... if you spend solely on the $$$ aspect, it is very easy to purchase the incorrect solution in either foam style. As DallsGirl said, the TempurCloud is a less expensive version with less cush, the iComfort Insight is also a nice medium feel without too much cush for about $1700 in a King. Simmons has their NxG memory foam (some over coils and some over foam core) that also do a very good job of combining different material (thought the price will be higher than the TempurCloud and the Insight). Definitely need to try them for more than just a couple of minutes to see if you both relax and enjoy the reactions in your body to the sleep surface before making any decisions. If you are stuck between two options, choose the less expensive first, so that if it works you saved the money... if not, just do a comfort exchange to the other model you liked (assuming the company offers the exchange option).

Good Luck and Sleep Well "jyeh74"!

I actually do not like the memory foams.  I prefer the latex.  I couldn't find many decently priced latex beds with the soy build. 

I am allergic to dust mites and was reading that Latex mattresses are less prone to having mites than the traditional innercoil beds.  After searching for memory foam vs innercoil and hybrid beds, I think Latex is the best combination of comfort and features.
 
Here is where I am struggling.  I found a Ethan Allen Profile latex mattress (made by Kingsdown) with soy.  It is expensive at $2200 after discount for a king.  10 year warranty.
http://www.ethanallen.com/product?productId=3170286
 
There is another no name brand latex mattress.  But for some reason, this is built on individually wrapped coils (not soy).  So this hybrid bed will have more dust mites.  It is cheaper, at $1100 for a king.  15 year warranty.
https://ocmattressrocks.com/products/San-Clemente-Latex-Pillow-Top.html

Just a note on Dust Mites and beds:

Dust mites are a burrowing insect. the environment of latex and memory foam are both too acidic for dust mites to breed and live comfortably so they are naturally resistant to dust mites. the coils underneath are basically inconsequencial since they would have to burrow through the latex to get to the coils... virtually not gonna happen. The reason most mattress protectors are only waterproof or water resistant on the top is for the very reason that the dust mites only dig and not crawl side to side.

Find what's comfortable (in latex) and do not worry about the coil vs. soy when concerned about dust mites.

Also: Soy foam is basically a polyurethane foam with a small percentage of soy blended in (there are a couple of guys on here who could describe this better than me) but it is not enough soy to be a "soy foam". Since it is an poly foam blend, you can expect it to last much like most other poly foams of similar design... I amnot saying the coils are better, just don't get caught n the salesperson's pitch to make your decision. I sell mattresses and my experience is that depending on certain factors, the coils may last longer than the foam, but the opposite is also true. If the coil version has options for a higher number of coils, then the higher number will result in lasting longer than it's lower counterpart (in the same brand).
 

Ultimately, Kingsdown is a good brand, but there are other latex models (in foam and coil) that should be able to get you in the mid to high teens $$...

Sleep Well "jyeh74"!

Thanks for the reply.  cant dust mites go through the side of the mattress and bypass the latex pillowtop into the coils?

I was just thinking soy may last longer than coils because all the Sealy coils I have purchased, end up sagging in 3-4 years.

As far as the dust mites go... no, they can not move laterally at all, they burrow straight down.

As far as soy based foam vs. coils that would depend on usage, weight, humidity, etc. If the Sealy bed was a "Sealy" line and not a Posturepedic line from Sealy, then the coils were not designed for true adult use for an extended period of time (based on my selling experience), if the coils were in a Posturepedic mattress, I would first check on the foams in the mattress breaking down and not the coils... those posturetech coils are freaking strong.

I have sold 3 different brands and styles of soy-based foam core under latex and although they have all retained 20 yr warranties, I did not find them to last any longer than a strong coil system.

Most beds are designed for 2 people averaging under 200lb each... if you weigh a lot more than this, you may need to consider a stronger coil system or a higher ILD foam core (regardless of soy or standard polyurethane)... many salespeople will use your fear to sell you a more expensive product...

Find the one that FEELS the best to you with a reputation you can trust (at least the retailer so you can get your exchange and warranty options) and go with that mattress... the dust mites can be researched online to verify the info I have given you so far... a very simple waterproof cover can reduce the dust mites to a normal life level as they are literally everywhere all the time... mattresses just begin to house the colonization and life cycles where they eat, sleep, die and poop in your bed and never get removed; being able to wash the protector eliminates all of those things. Plus, since you like latex, it will naturally reduce the life cycles of dust mites in your bed.... you can add the protector for even greater peace of mind.

I figure Ethan Allen's Kingsdown is expensive for the name.  $2200 for a latex/soy mattress is expensive.  It only has 10 year warranty.

But I'm not sure if the generic OC Mattress with 15 year warranty and latex/coils is better.  Stress O pedic makes this http://www.stressopedic.com/ but I've never heard of them.

They actually both feel decent.  The Ethan Allen is slightly firmer.

Depending on the soy foam ILD, the in-store model may feel firmer based on the how often it has been tested (broken in)... the coils should not change throughout its life...

You may want to test again and spend at least 20 minutes on each one and see how relaxed you feel after 20 minutes in each one... if you find yourself relaxing quicker in one anr just feeling more relaxed... that's the one to pick!

Good luck!