Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
May 31, 2015 2:16 PM
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Hi, Greetings to all!

I live in Canada and I am about to purchase a 100% All Natural Dunlop Latex bed from an online mattress site(Arizona Premium Mattress Company). I have been searching this forum and have found it quite helpful. Due to my disability (lower back issue) travel is problematic so it is difficult for me to test mattresses as there are no retailers in my area so this will be 'somewhat' of a blind purchase . I did manage to test a few mattresses so I have an idea of what I'm looking for.

Here is what I am considering:
2" of ILD 22 Dunlop (Topper)
3" of ILD 25-29 Dunlop (pressure relief layer)
6" of ILD 36 Dunlop (core layer)

I would like to know what ILD configuration other 'heavy' people like myself (I weight 270lbs) are using in their latex mattresses especially in the 'pressure relief' layer (please identify if your layers are Dunlop or Talalay). Any assistance anyone can provide is very much appreciated.

Thank you so much in advance!
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #1 Jun 2, 2015 3:19 PM
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Baddog.  Trying to fix a disability with a mattress is problematic.  The best you can do is lessen your discomfort.  Physical therapy and healing will be what makes the difference.  That being said your configuration looks good.  The only thing you should consider is a higher ILD middle layer.  What do the folks at that company say for your condition and weight?  Mattdud
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #2 Jun 2, 2015 5:09 PM
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Thanks Mattdud,

I'm having a very difficult time determining what is best for me. Greg from Arizona Mattresses recommends:

3" of ILD 19 Talalay (Topper)
3" of ILD 28 Talalay (pressure relief layer)
6" of ILD 36 Dunlop (core layer)

I'm completely confused! The 36 ILD Dunlop core should be fine however its impossible to determine whether Dunlop or Talalay is better in any layer with all the contradictory information everywhere concerning Dunlop vs Talalay. My big problem is that I am not able to get much hands on testing due to a lack of retailers or manufacturers anywhere near my area, and travelling any distance is extremely painful for me. I have tested Dunlop (7" 18-32 ILD core, 3" 18-22 ILD Pressure Relief Layer, 2" 12-15 ILD Comfort Layer) which I thought was comfortable and seemed to me supportive but I've been advised that this is way too soft for my 270lb body weight. I certainly want something that will last and spending between $3500 - $4000 on a mattress is something I don't want to get wrong especially ordering online internationally, returning layers would be cost prohibitive. I'd just like to hear from some people near my weight who have either Dunlop and/or Talalay and get their ILD configurations and thoughts. I not trying to fix my disability with a mattress I'm simply trying to get some experienced advise on what heavier people like myself found works for them and get some unbiased information on the whole Dunlop vs Talalay consideration. I tried laying directly on a 18-22 ILD Dunlop and it was 'way' to firm for me. Arizona Mattress (where I was planning on ordering from) has limited Dunlop. 22 and 36 ILD is all they carry. Greg from Arizona Mattress recommended 36 ILD Dunlop core, 28 ILD Talalay pressure relief layer, and 19 ILD comfort layer. I imagine that I would like this configuration and it would probably feel great as I like soft, not firm, but that being said I know that I need the firmness for support and for durability/longevity especially for someone of my weight, but I'm not even sure what I should be buying I think I really need to find a retailer where I can try some Talalay. Thanks Mattdud.
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #3 Jun 3, 2015 10:23 AM
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Baddog.  You are on the right track.  Your decision to go with a system that has separate layers will benefit you greatly.  If in a year you decide you would like more support you could replace the middle layer with a higher ILD piece.  The price you have been quoted seems quite high.  Have you looked at other retailers?  Mattdud.

Quote:

Thanks Mattdud,

I'm having a very difficult time determining what is best for me. Greg from Arizona Mattresses recommends:

3" of ILD 19 Talalay (Topper)
3" of ILD 28 Talalay (pressure relief layer)
6" of ILD 36 Dunlop (core layer)

I'm completely confused! The 36 ILD Dunlop core should be fine however its impossible to determine whether Dunlop or Talalay is better in any layer with all the contradictory information everywhere concerning Dunlop vs Talalay. My big problem is that I am not able to get much hands on testing due to a lack of retailers or manufacturers anywhere near my area, and travelling any distance is extremely painful for me. I have tested Dunlop (7" 18-32 ILD core, 3" 18-22 ILD Pressure Relief Layer, 2" 12-15 ILD Comfort Layer) which I thought was comfortable and seemed to me supportive but I've been advised that this is way too soft for my 270lb body weight. I certainly want something that will last and spending between $3500 - $4000 on a mattress is something I don't want to get wrong especially ordering online internationally, returning layers would be cost prohibitive. I'd just like to hear from some people near my weight who have either Dunlop and/or Talalay and get their ILD configurations and thoughts. I not trying to fix my disability with a mattress I'm simply trying to get some experienced advise on what heavier people like myself found works for them and get some unbiased information on the whole Dunlop vs Talalay consideration. I tried laying directly on a 18-22 ILD Dunlop and it was 'way' to firm for me. Arizona Mattress (where I was planning on ordering from) has limited Dunlop. 22 and 36 ILD is all they carry. Greg from Arizona Mattress recommended 36 ILD Dunlop core, 28 ILD Talalay pressure relief layer, and 19 ILD comfort layer. I imagine that I would like this configuration and it would probably feel great as I like soft, not firm, but that being said I know that I need the firmness for support and for durability/longevity especially for someone of my weight, but I'm not even sure what I should be buying I think I really need to find a retailer where I can try some Talalay. Thanks Mattdud.
 
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #4 Jun 3, 2015 1:09 PM
Joined: May 31, 2015
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That's the cost of living in Canada Mattdud.
$1.25 Canadian to equal $1.00 U.S.
13% Hst (tax)
10% Duty
8% UPS fees (shipping)

So a $2,100.00 cross border purchase to the U.S. works out around $3,500.00 Canadian.
Canada is a great place to live however cost of living is continually increasing.

Thanks Mattdud.
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #5 Jun 4, 2015 11:49 AM
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Baddog.  I forgot you were in Canada!  Unfortunately your price is completely reasonable for you.  Please keep us posted.  Mattdud
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #6 Jul 25, 2015 10:51 AM
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How is it going?
Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #7 Sep 7, 2015 6:15 PM
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Hi! New to this site. I bought a pure latex mattress 8" in 2000. The store I bought it from only had one firmness I believe now it was xfirm. My husband/I slept on this for a while and we both started having shoulder pressure points at the same time. So I layered it up with 4.5# D memory foam and got it up to 7" for me (it was too soft for H). After 15 yrs of sleeping this way age/time/bed? Had spine problems I couldn't sit ER/spine shot/etc. I thought I would have to live the rest of my life in my recliner to get relief off my spine. This all started in April 2015. So I thought it might be the bed being too soft started sleeping on innerspring with 4" M foam on top. I don't get up with pain in the morn now. I've been looking at M foam beds with adj bed frames. When I went to you tube and saw man(mattress education) talking about beds. So we used electric knife to cut the latex king in half. Now I'm thinking of a latex topper, if I can get this right I'm buying and adjustable bed frame. Spoke to foam source and she said 2" medium/2" soft on top of latex mattress. I've just started reading this forum and wondered if anyone else had topped their latex mattress. I'll let U know when I decide, thought of going with soft 19-21/med 24-26
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Re: Heavy People: What ILD's are in your Latex Mattress?
Reply #8 Oct 15, 2015 6:16 AM
Location: United States
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For people with back pain issues it is always best to opt for medium firm mattress. Firmer or softer the mattress it would post problems in your back pain. This is one of the issues many chiropractors and doctors fail to note. It ultimately comes to support the spinal cord. A firmer mattress makes it difficult for the pressure points to come in accordance with the mattress layer. Adjustable beds are quite new in the market and solve many issues related to back pain or sleep disorders.
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