Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe. I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it! :) However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now) So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ). This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
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Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
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mattressmom wrote: It wouldn't hurt to try two layers for a night or two. It won't cost anything. It always takes my husband two or three nights to get used to a new configuration. Or maybe this just isn't going to work for you and you'll have to cut your losses and move on. If it's any consolation, this thread helped convince me to go with Dunlop and a non-SleepEZ manufacturer. I didn't like the sound of your problems with the cover. Not much help for you but it did help us. For the kids we got plain old medium six inch cores of Dunlop latex with simple covers. Much cheaper than the fancier alternatives and seem just as comfortable as our expensive mattress. The Dunlop is denser at the bottom than the top so it is sort layered without all the layers. Much simpler and more straight forward IF it works for you. The Dunlop isn't as wiggly. See the Talalay vs. Dunlop threads. We used a cheap velour cover from eBay for my son's mattress. Works great. Comes in lots of sizes. Around $30 plus shipping - depending on the size. http://cgi.ebay.com/ZIPPERED-VELOURCOVER-for-10-QUEEN-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ110220660299QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I am going to go back and try an old configuration because I think it was not used to latex yet. Don't let me being crazy :) dissuade anyone from trying Sleepez, they really are a great company. I am just adjusting I think Spoke to Sean. I am going to go try an original configuration without their cover and see how it is. Soft Medium Firm Wish me luck! :) |
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Novahelp, what about trying the Brylane topper we are all ordering? It is only one inch thick and maybe that's all the cushion you need for your hips. It is not so thick that you negate the support of the firmer layers beneath. I am also a side sleeper and on too firm a surface my hips go numb, but when I tried our 3 inch PU camping foam on top of the firm mattress, while it relieved the pressure points in my hips, itt allowed my spine to sink in too much and I was waking up with lower back pain. 3 inches for your soft layer is too much in my opinion. If you can get your support layers right I think one or two inches of “cush” on top is all you need. Would Sean send you a 2 inch or 1.5 inch soft layer to try instead of the standard 3 inch? When I talked to him, he said he could get a 1.5 inch topper for me if I wanted. Good luck – I know what it’s like to be exhausted yet dread going to bed at the same time... |
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
| Novahelp, In my opinion a 2.8 or 3" of soft latex layer is usally too soft and to get the benefits of latex and have firm support and softness on your pressure points and not pushing back against you, I would go with a less thick topper (1" or 1.5" or 2.0") in the firmness you like (it sounds like that is soft) and firmer layers underneath. This is what works best for me and I am very comfortable. I could not sleep on such a thick soft latex core or a very firm latex core without a soft topper. I am more comfortable than I was with a conventional mattress. |
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"After all the cheerleading in this forum on how great latex is, returning this thing is going to cost me $400." The above statement about cheerleading is not true. It also appeared to be an attempt to blame others for your predicament. There is a lot of valuable information on this forum, but it's fairly useless if you don't digest it all it all before acting. $348 restocking? You paid $2300 for a SleepEz mattress? Moving forward: I returned my 3 memoryfoam.com toppers after 30 days (with no restocking and no charge for original free shipping) when it didn't work. I'm working on creating a zoned mattress, but at the moment have 2 1" cheapo Overstock toppers mated (ILD maybe 20-24), over 3" 36 ILD (actually @33) in hip area, 5" of the soft Overstock for shoulders. Everything over an old, firm, failing coil mattress. It's comfortable. Play around with what you have on hand in your remaining time. Your biggest problem may be, as others have noted, the 3" of soft foam (too thick) OR could be a nonstretch cover. |
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mccldwll wrote: "After all the cheerleading in this forum on how great latex is, returning this thing is going to cost me $400." The above statement about cheerleading is not true. It also appeared to be an attempt to blame others for your predicament. There is a lot of valuable information on this forum, but it's fairly useless if you don't digest it all it all before acting. $348 restocking? You paid $2300 for a SleepEz mattress? Moving forward: I returned my 3 memoryfoam.com toppers after 30 days (with no restocking and no charge for original free shipping) when it didn't work. I'm working on creating a zoned mattress, but at the moment have 2 1" cheapo Overstock toppers mated (ILD maybe 20-24), over 3" 36 ILD (actually @33) in hip area, 5" of the soft Overstock for shoulders. Everything over an old, firm, failing coil mattress. It's comfortable. Play around with what you have on hand in your remaining time. Your biggest problem may be, as others have noted, the 3" of soft foam (too thick) OR could be a nonstretch cover. Oops math error, blame it on the lack of decent sleep, so it will be 232+74+100 (likely) = $406 |
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Here are my various attempts Arrangement (top to bottom): Soft Medium Firm Result:: I like it. The problem is that when I turn from my side or move around, I bottom out in the thing and my hip or butt hits the ground (ouch!) and i sort of rebound off it... Arrangement (top to bottom): Medium Firm x-firm Result: Its too hard. arrangement (top to bottom): Soft Medium Firm X-firm Result: I feel like I am sleeping on a rubber ball. Tonight will try the: soft medium x-firm to see if perhaps my body can deal with it though I still seem to hit the ground a bit. This message was modified Feb 9, 2008 by novahelp
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Try : Medium Soft Firm (Bottom) Also I think as others, that 3" of soft on top is too much. This configuration may solve that problem. If it does not, then get a 2" or even 1" soft layer to try on top of a Medium middle and Firm bottom. Get 2 Brylane latex toppers and try one and two of those instead of the 3" of soft you have on top. |
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novahelp, I wonder if you would feel less like you are on top of a rubber ball if you put your layers back inside the case - and try something like medium/soft or medium/firm and put a one or two inch soft topper on top of the whole thing. The case is an important part of the mattress. It holds the latex together and gives it some oompf and should dampen some of the rubberyness of the latex. IIRC, you had problems with hammocking when you had a soft top layer inside the case. I can't remember if you had tried a medium top layer inside the case. I wonder if the case will stretch a bit over time so you'd sink into a medium layer but still have the structure of the case to provide support. The top of the case should fit tightly over the latex and conform to it - like a thick mattress pad. If the case doesn't fit tightly and/or doesn't conform to the top of the latex, I wonder if your real problem is with the case and not the latex. The more I think about it, three layers of Talalay latex on the floor without a case - would be pretty jiggly. I wonder if you might get used to the feeling of the wool top of the case if you had the right latex under it - and a bit of soft cush on top of the whole mattress for hip pressure relief. I did feel a bit of hip pressure on our quilted wool mattress top for a night or two - but it disappeared when I got used to the new mattress and it stretched out a bit. Making the bottom layer slightly less firm by putting the soft side of the bottom layer up made a slight but significant change. (We have Dunlop which has a firm side and a soft side.) That's why I think the firm rather than extra firm on the bottom layer might work better for you. Besides, you paid for the case - it's a big part of the cost of the mattress. If it doesn't work for you, SleepEZ should be able to work something out with you besides the simple terry cover. FloBeds has several mattress case choices that seem more flexible than the one SleepEZ case. Best of luck to you.... |
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....- matress case
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I love my mattress case that has a little bit of a give and protects the latex and makes my mattress look like a conventional mattress. This is the 2nd case FloBeds sent me and it is just perfect for my Latex bed in my opinion. I like how it has protection on the sides so the zipper will not catch onto the latex like former mattress cover. Dave said he switched supplies to get the better mattress cover and this is what he sells now. It is organic cotton with wool inside and feels good. I would try the case the mattress came with again also and keep the layers firm with a less thick topper over the layers. I slept wonderful last night with putting my 1" topper over my 39 ILD over the 36 ILD (was on top but put it in the middle) over the 44 ILD. I am waiting for the Brylane Topper and then if this combination still works out, I may ask Dave for another 39 or 40 ILD (36 ILD's have ranges and on the side of the natural latex core from Latex International it does give an average and I can definitely feel a difference between the 36 ILD and the 39 ILD. My back just knows it is firmer. I never believed in toppers when I had a conventional mattress but now that I see how they help me sleep better by cushioning my pressure points and I do not move much when I am sleeping, I wish I had a topper over my super firm conventional mattresses all those years before I switched in May 2007 to a latex bed from Flobeds. I used to think I was a restless sleeper but now I see I only moved from side to side all night to get off the pressure points. I always could only sleep on a very firm mattress and this is the case now also but now I like a tiny bit of cushion on top. I also used to wake up with a snuffed nose and allergies and many times I coughed all night but now I wake up feeling great and do not cough as I sleep since I have no allergies to my mostly natural latex bed and pillows (two of my latex cores are a Talalay Blend). I had to air out the latex cores for several days but afterwards I had no problems. Also since the latex cores come wrapped in plastic, I needed to air them out to get rid of that smell also. I was amazed that the natural latex had a stronger smell at first than the blended latex. But I still feel better knowing most of my bed has the Talalay Natural latex cores. I also love my slat box and the 10" legs allowing me to store things under my bed. At first the pine smell was strong and I was worried (I am not allergic to pine but still dislike smells as I sleep) but it went away. If it would continue to bother me, Dave was going to have me send it back and he would have covered the top also in the organic cotton for me but I am glad I was OK after a little time passed. |
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I agree that I wouldn't want to sleep on my latex unless I had my quilted zippered mattress cover over all of it. It's a thick fabric and there's some polyfil to give it some cushion. So, the latex is there, but not JUST there against my back. I even have a CuddleBed fiberbed type mattress topper over that. I agree that when it's all pulled together it's not as jiggly and bouncy. mattressmom wrote: novahelp, I wonder if you would feel less like you are on top of a rubber ball if you put your layers back inside the case - and try something like medium/soft or medium/firm and put a one or two inch soft topper on top of the whole thing. The case is an important part of the mattress. It holds the latex together and gives it some oompf and should dampen some of the rubberyness of the latex. IIRC, you had problems with hammocking when you had a soft top layer inside the case. I can't remember if you had tried a medium top layer inside the case. I wonder if the case will stretch a bit over time so you'd sink into a medium layer but still have the structure of the case to provide support. The top of the case should fit tightly over the latex and conform to it - like a thick mattress pad. <BR><BR>If the case doesn't fit tightly and/or doesn't conform to the top of the latex, I wonder if your real problem is with the case and not the latex. The more I think about it, three layers of Talalay latex on the floor without a case - would be pretty jiggly. I wonder if you might get used to the feeling of the wool top of the case if you had the right latex under it - and a bit of soft cush on top of the whole mattress for hip pressure relief.<BR><BR>I did feel a bit of hip pressure on our quilted wool mattress top for a night or two - but it disappeared when I got used to the new mattress and it stretched out a bit. Making the bottom layer slightly less firm by putting the soft side of the bottom layer up made a slight but significant change. (We have Dunlop which has a firm side and a soft side.) That's why I think the firm rather than extra firm on the bottom layer might work better for you.<BR><BR>Besides, you paid for the case - it's a big part of the cost of the mattress. If it doesn't work for you, SleepEZ should be able to work something out with you besides the simple terry cover. FloBeds has several mattress case choices that seem more flexible than the one SleepEZ case.<BR><BR>Best of luck to you.... |