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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe. I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it! :) However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now) So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ). This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
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novahelp wrote: The only time it felt like a rubber ball was when I had four layers. With three layers it is fine. The only problem is that with three ayers I tend to bottom out when I move quickly and apply a lot of pressure in one spot. <BR>IMHO a quilted wool mattress top negates the entire point of foam. Good point on asking Sleepez for some other type of cover, I will ask them tomorrow.<BR><BR>I just moved the layers. Grr, same problem with the <BR> <BR> Soft<BR> Medium<BR> Firm<BR> <BR> I sink through and feel the floor. Will still try it tonight and see how it is. Not sure, I read other people my weight didn't report this problem so this makes no sense... is it possible the firm layer they sent me is not really firm?<br type="_moz"/> That's so frustrating. It still sounds your problem is with the cover. The top shouldn't feel much different than a regular mattress pad. You are paying several hundred dollars for the mattress case - it should do it's job. It sounds like it was hammocking over the soft layer and might work better over medium. It sounds like the FloBeds knit covers conform to the latex better. Maybe you could at least get a refund or discount on the cover you aren't using. Do you put a regular mattress pad over your latex layers? There is some variation in ILD so maybe your Firm is on the low end of the firm range. Have you tried something like Medium/Medium/Firm? If you are a heavier person, the soft layer with ILDs in the low to mid 20's is not going to be supportive enough for long - even if it seems comfortable at first. Or maybe latex isn't for you. It sounds like you've tried a lot of variations. I wonder if Dunlop might have worked better for you. |
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Actually, I think I finally got it... :) Soft (top) Medium X-firm It's the best so far. I will try it again for a few nights, and then see about getting a replacement mattress case. Believe it or not, the bottom layer DOES make it firmer, and effects the entire feel of the combo. This was too soft and gave me shoulder pain! Guess I been sleeping on much too soft surfaces. soft medium firm |
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Novahelp, Yes the bottom latex core does affect the feel of the whole mattress. I was told since I am light weight and small anything beyond the top two layers I will not notice a difference. For me, I could not sleep on the latex bed without one 44 ILD in the equation. Right now I have a 44 ILD on the bottom which FloBeds calls Super Firm but I think it is the Extra Firm for SleepEZ? I know I have a 36 ILD on top of that with a 39 ILD on top of that with the very soft latex 1" pad on that. Without the 44 ILD latex core on the bottom or in the middle, my bed is too soft and I get back pain. This sounds like a good combination for you the way you now have it set up. It is frustrating but well worth the effort having a bed made to fit your particular needs. I went into the edit the spelling of "the" since I accidentally spelled it teh (do not understand why my fingers do this as I type when I know how to spell very well) and I am sure it will show up that I edited my message. I wish it would not do this if a word is just being corrected for spelling. This message was modified Feb 14, 2008 by Lynn2006
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This is definitely the best combo!!!!!!! I sleep great on the soft-medium-X-firm combo. I would like it a bit firmer but the Medium-Firm-xfirm is too much. Hmm, now what are my case options? I could try the included case again, but I really dread the hip pain I got from it the last few times.... |
| Novahelp, I am glad you found a combination working out for you. My suggestion is to try the mattress case that SleepEZ sent to you with a soft padded fitted mattress pad on top before putting a fitted sheet over this. You will still get the benefit of latex since you will not have springs pushing into your back. I am still thinking of looking for a 100% cotton fitted mattress cover. Sometimes I sleep with my mattress fitted pad and other times just a fitted sheet. I just want to protect my zippered mattress cover FloBed sent to me but I do not want a mattress pad with a lot of padding since I want mine just for pretection. |
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Congratulations novahelp! What about a medium-medium-X-firm combo? Would that make it a bit firmer without making it TOO firm? I don't have any soft layers in my mattress. It's X- firm HR PU, 44 ILD latex and 32 ILD latex. (Or maybe two 32 ILDs--forgot) But no soft. And the CuddleSoft fiber mattress pad over the mattress. novahelp wrote: This is definitely the best combo!!!!!!!<BR><BR>I sleep great on the soft-medium-X-firm combo. I would like it a bit firmer but the Medium-Firm-xfirm is too much.<BR><BR>Hmm, now what are my case options? I could try the included case again, but I really dread the hip pain I got from it the last few times.... |
| I agree with BeddyBye that maybe two medium ILD latex cores over the X-Firm with a thin topper on top that is somewhat soft would be ideal but it seems that what you set up is at least working and you are happy. |
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BeddyBye wrote: Congratulations novahelp! What about a medium-medium-X-firm combo? Would that make it a bit firmer without making it TOO firm? I don't have any soft layers in my mattress. It's X- firm HR PU, 44 ILD latex and 32 ILD latex. (Or maybe two 32 ILDs--forgot) But no soft. And the CuddleSoft fiber mattress pad over the mattress.
Novahelp, it seems like you have found a configuratiion that works for you, although I tend to think that BeddyBye's suggested medium/medium/x-firm would probably be better. SleepEZ soft layer is really soft, although I think they have changed from a 20 when I bought my mattress to a 24. This is still really soft for a 2.8" layer. My feeling is that the medium/medium/x-firm would be the most comfortable along with a soft 1" topper. I know you would like the bed to work as it is sold, but sometimes it's necessary to tweak it a little bit above and beyond to acheive optimal comfort. I preferred the SleepEZ mattress cover the bed came with to the feel of the latex with less between it and my body. Have you tried leaving the cover unzipped? This will give you much more slack and less of a trampoline effect when you lie on it. If you find it's shifting around too much place a mattress pad over it. I like the kind with the wide horizontal bands rather than the kind with tight quilting. Overall they feel much softer, have more give to them and don't pull taut enough to produce that trampoline effect. |
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BeddyBye wrote: Congratulations novahelp! What about a medium-medium-X-firm combo? Would that make it a bit firmer without making it TOO firm? I don't have any soft layers in my mattress. It's X- firm HR PU, 44 ILD latex and 32 ILD latex. (Or maybe two 32 ILDs--forgot) But no soft. And the CuddleSoft fiber mattress pad over the mattress. Hmm, good idea. Let me try that. I think the issue is I like the soft layer on the top, medium feels a bit too hard. Let me try it in any case! p.s. Another GREAT night of sleep on soft-medium-xfirm!! |
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cloud9 wrote: BeddyBye, I think you said your latex layers were 1" each and they are combined with an innerspring unit. This feels completely different than a bed made entirely of 2.8" talalay latex cores. And you've got that cuddle bed over it which really alters the feeling of the latex. Novahelp, it seems like you have found a configuratiion that works for you, although I tend to think that BeddyBye's suggested medium/medium/x-firm would probably be better. SleepEZ soft layer is really soft, although I think they have changed from a 20 when I bought my mattress to a 24. This is still really soft for a 2.8" layer. My feeling is that the medium/medium/x-firm would be the most comfortable along with a soft 1" topper. I know you would like the bed to work as it is sold, but sometimes it's necessary to tweak it a little bit above and beyond to acheive optimal comfort. I preferred the SleepEZ mattress cover the bed came with to the feel of the latex with less between it and my body. Have you tried leaving the cover unzipped? This will give you much more slack and less of a trampoline effect when you lie on it. If you find it's shifting around too much place a mattress pad over it. I like the kind with the wide horizontal bands rather than the kind with tight quilting. Overall they feel much softer, have more give to them and don't pull taut enough to produce that trampoline effect. I like the feel of foam. Also, as you said, the soft ILD is now 22-24 instead of 20 so I do not find it too soft in the soft-medium-xfirm combination. As for the case, the problems I had with the included case were as follows: 1) OUCH! every time I used it killed my hip! 2) I couldn't even tell it was foam I was sleeping on. The cover, for me, completely inhibited the conforming properties of latex and I felt like i was sleeping on a cheap mattress (apologies to anyone who likes the included cover). I bought foam because I like to feel the foam. I will try the Medium-Medium-Xfirm tonight as a last adjustment to see if that makes it better. Hmm, though I wonder if I should try SOFT-FIRM-X-Firm? I assume the soft won't separate me enough from the firm layer though... However, not sure why people are against sleeping close to the foam. Memory foam mattresses don't pad themselves with thick wool covers...(i do understand they need the body heat to contour) This message was modified Feb 15, 2008 by novahelp
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