Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe. I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it! :) However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now) So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ). This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
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JCturboT wrote: Novahelp, Sorry to hear that- Did you talk to Shawn @ SleepEZ for the cost of a return charge? Jeff Nope not yet. It should be a 15% restocking fee + shipping back. This experiment is going to be a $400 mistake. |
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That is why I went with FloBeds.com knowing that if I decided Latex was not for me it would not cost me anything but shipping the bed back with no restocking fee. I also knew I could watch the website and email Dave when the price went down. I got a few mark downs making my bed no more than if I bought it ast SleepEZ but with the peace of mind in knowing I could get a full refund if I needed to send it back. I do like having a latex bed despite the work in getting it right since I wake up with no allergies and I sleep better. But I am sorry Novahelp that your SleepEZ Latex bed did not work out for you. But I really think if you had a more comforming zipped up cover like my bed came with and a topper that was soft and not more than 2" over a firm foundation, you would like your latex bed. I could not sleep on Latex without my 1" soft topper since I like the other layers under me very firm and I like a tiny bit of cushion. I also love my zippped up mattress cover that has a little give in it. This message was modified Feb 20, 2008 by Lynn2006
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Or you can have a mattress like mine which is both coils and latex and some HR PU foam thrown in. I feel I truly got the best of both worlds with the ability to change what's inside if need be. I'm sorry your all-latex kit didn't work out. I don't think I would feel good without some type of coil system, as well as latex and whatever materials feel good on my body. Good luck finding that perfect mattress! novahelp wrote: Actually, it is not working out. I am going to be returning the whole thing. <BR><BR>After trying now both latex and memory foam I think the problem I am having with the latex bed kit (which was also the same problem I had with a Costco memory foam bed I tried), that when I make the bed soft enough for me, my hips compress the softer foam layers so much that the foam essentially becomes hard at my hips. Therefore, I need to use the firmer layers (i.e. medium-firm-xfirm) so the foam is strong enough to hold me without compressing; the problem is that then this combination is too firm for me. <BR><BR><BR>That is what I have learned about foam. It is not a very flexible bed material. You have to get pretty much EXACTLY the foam density and ILD for your body, or it just won't work. Spring mattresses IMHO while not as potentially comfortable, have greater ranges where people can find them comfortable. Just my $0.02 after about 4 months of non-stop mattress foam building research and trying. :( |
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Lynn2006 wrote: That is why I went with FloBeds.com knowing that if I decided Latex was not for me it would not cost me anything but shipping the bed back with no restocking fee. I also knew I could watch the website and email Dave when the price went down. I got a few mark downs making my bed no more than if I bought it ast SleepEZ but with the peace of mind in knowing I could get a full refund if I needed to send it back. I do like having a latex bed despite the work in getting it right since I wake up with no allergies and I sleep better. But I am sorry Novahelp that your SleepEZ Latex bed did not work out for you. But I really think if you had a more comforming zipped up cover like my bed came with and a topper that was soft and not more than 2" over a firm foundation, you would like your latex bed. I could not sleep on Latex without my 1" soft topper since I like the other layers under me very firm and I like a tiny bit of cushion. I also love my zippped up mattress cover that has a little give in it. You may be right, but honestly i am just sick of all this work. These kits, and foam beds in general, are just a lot of work as evidenced by the many many threads seen here of people trying to get foams to work well for them. Oh and I am using a terrycloth cover, not sure how much more conforming a cover one could get... but that's what tempurpedic uses as well... At some point you just have to cut your losses. I mean what am I supposed to do , go buy a zippered case, then buy another layer of foam in hopes of making this work? Then what, if that doesn't work i am out even more money... at some point, you just take a loss. It was a gamble that I thought would work out for me, but it just didn't. I hope this crazy long thread describing my experience ultimately helps a few other people out there to help them understand the process that MIGHT take place when you attempt a kit purchase. You have to understand, this is the THIRD FOAM mattress type i have tried -- I tried a Costco Novaform memory foam, tried to build a cheaperpedic, and now latex. They all failed. My 10 yr old Sams club mattress was great for the first 8 years, was $300, and never caused me this much physical pain and mental aggrevation :) I will contact Sleepez in the next couple of days and find out how the heck do I possibly repackage all this stuff into the 3 original boxes... my god, it's going to be awful! I have to go to Costco and order a decent spring mattress. At least with Costco.com you get free shipping on both the delivery and the return if you don't like it. Risk free trial I say! This message was modified Feb 20, 2008 by novahelp
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| Novahelp, my friend, Dennis loves Costco also. Good luck with your new bed. Let us know what bed you chose from Costco and how it works out for you. My other friend LOVES Kingsdown and she has a bad back but likes a little softness over a firm bed. You may want to try that brand out also. |
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BeddyBye wrote: Or you can have a mattress like mine which is both coils and latex and some HR PU foam thrown in. I feel I truly got the best of both worlds with the ability to change what's inside if need be. I'm sorry your all-latex kit didn't work out. I don't think I would feel good without some type of coil system, as well as latex and whatever materials feel good on my body. Good luck finding that perfect mattress! I think you are correct. I now believe I am a spring bed person and will need to throw on a nice topper to get the best of both worlds. What if I keep the SOFT layer from Sleepez as a topper, is that too soft for a spring mattress topper? This message was modified Feb 20, 2008 by novahelp
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| Novahelp, I would go with a 2" soft latex topper and no more than that or you will sink in too much and hurt your back. My opinion... |
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I forgot how soft the topper is. (The ILD). Myself, I really have a hard time finding a latex or memory foam topper that won't make my lower back hurt eventually. I can handle firmer latex INSIDE my mattress. And, my "topper" of choice is this super, comfy Ultimate Cuddle Bed® Plus Mattress Topper from Costco.com. It's like sleeping on a supportive cloud. In fact, I bought another one to have for the future in case they stop selling them. Best wishes to you! http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11189730&search=cuddle%20bed&Mo=0&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=cuddle%20bed&Ntt=cuddle%20bed&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1 novahelp wrote: I think you are correct. I now believe I am a spring bed person and will need to throw on a nice topper to get the best of both worlds. <BR><BR>What if I keep the SOFT layer from Sleepez as a topper, is that too soft for a spring mattress topper?<br type="_moz"/> |
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Lynn2006 wrote: Novahelp, I would go with a 2" soft latex topper and no more than that or you will sink in too much and hurt your back. My opinion... Appreciate your help. As an experiment, I slept last night on Medium-Firm-Xfirm. My hip doesn't hurt this morning, which confirms what I thought on how the softer layering isn't thick/dense/supportive enough to hold me at my weight and it compresses to something that is hard which hurts my hip. However, you knew it was coming :), my lower back is sore and my shoulder hurts! Additionally, the whole thing feel so hard to me that it's like almost sleep on a board or a traditional super hard/firm spring mattress. So you believe a 2" soft layer is going to fix all this? Seems to me a cheap extra firm spring mattress with a nice 2" latex layer is much more cost efficient. This message was modified Feb 21, 2008 by novahelp
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Novahelp, I admire you for all of the time and effort you have put into this. I would have given up long ago. You really must be exhausted from so many uncomfortable and restless nights. However, the glaring problem to me in all of the configurations you have tried, is the 3 inches of soft foam for your comfort layer. It's too much in my opinion -- and I think in the opinion of most people on this forum. As a last ditch effort why not go to Target, or Bed Bath and Beyond or somewhere local and buy a 1 or 2 inch thick memory or other foam topper and try it on the firm set up you just mentioned. I would get a couple of different options (a 1 inch AND a 2 inch,) since you can return either or all of them if they don't work out. I think it would be worth trying before throwing in the towel and resigning yourself to a $400 loss. |