keeping toppers on mattresses
May 25, 2008 9:08 PM
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Do any of you have problems with your toppers sliding off the top of your mattress and having to constantly straighten it out?  How do you keep them on without all the shifting!  Right now I have a 2 inch memory foam topper with no cover on it, on top of my SBR mattress.

I want to get a new bed and a natura topper and wonder if I will continue having this problem.
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Reply #1 May 25, 2008 11:29 PM
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My mattress topper is zippered inside my FloBeds zippered soft organic cotton with wool in the middle cover that I love.  I like having the topper with all the latex cores so it feels like a real conventional mattress but only better without pressure points for those that like Latex and take the time to choose the latex core combinations that are right for their back and body.

If I did not have a FloBed latex kit bed and had a bed that had a cover that did not fit a topper, I would make sure my topper had a cover and then I would get a fitted sheet big enough to cover both the topper and the mattress to keep the topper staying put.  Or I would get a cotton mattress cover that is big enough to cover the topper (that should be enclosed in a casing to have it last longer) and the mattress and then put a fitted sheet on top.  Just my idea. 

Others that have the topper over their mattress will probably soon respond.

This message was modified May 26, 2008 by Lynn2006
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Reply #2 May 27, 2008 5:17 AM
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Try keeping the topper underneath a fitted mattress pad. My topper stays firmly in place since it has no way to slide around.
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Reply #3 May 27, 2008 11:24 AM
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cloud9, thanks for responding so my idea of putting the pad under a mattress pad was correct that it would work and then a fitted sheet would make it stay put even more so.  I hope this helps the poster.
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Reply #4 May 27, 2008 3:25 PM
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the mattress I have right now is a twin xl and its almost impossible to find a fitted sheet deep enough for just the mattress, let alone a topper on it!
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Reply #5 May 27, 2008 5:28 PM
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How thick is the bed Cinnabon?  You can find 17-18" fitted sheets can't you?  At Ross they have them.

As for covers I am using a mattress cover, but I think it makes the topper harder (in my opinion).  I would like to find a terry cloth or thick jersey material that stretches so you can feel the topper's softness.  But so far I have not found this type of fabric.  Jersey fitted sheets are too thin for my liking.  Regular sheets make the topper to firm for me too.  But that is just me ; )
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Reply #6 May 28, 2008 1:34 AM
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My topper is tucked in snuggly under my Ultimate CuddleBed fitted mattress fiberbed-like pad. But before I had that, I just put a regular, fitted, quilted mattress pad over the topper. It never slips at all. Stays right where it's supposed to. It's important to have deep enough of a fitted skirt to fit around your mattress and topper.


cinnabon wrote:
Do any of you have problems with your toppers sliding off the top of your mattress and having to constantly straighten it out?  How do you keep them on without all the shifting!  Right now I have a 2 inch memory foam topper with no cover on it, on top of my SBR mattress.<BR><BR>I want to get a new bed and a natura topper and wonder if I will continue having this problem.
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Reply #7 May 28, 2008 4:56 AM
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Leo3 wrote:
As for covers I am using a mattress cover, but I think it makes the topper harder (in my opinion).  I would like to find a terry cloth or thick jersey material that stretches so you can feel the topper's softness.  But so far I have not found this type of fabric.  Jersey fitted sheets are too thin for my liking.  Regular sheets make the topper to firm for me too.  But that is just me ; )

I returned a couple of mattress pads due to this problem. The tight diamond stitching on most woven cotton mattress pads made to fit snuggly over the mattress with elastic sides actually produces a sort of trampoline effect when you lie on it. Couple that with the stiff liner on the bottom and it does make the mattress or the topper on the mattress feel harder. I discovered that the mattress pads that are quilted in broad horizontal bands are much softer all around and eliminate the trampoline effect completely.

Leo, I don't know if you have a Mervyn's nearby, but they carry both the mattress pad I just described as well as a stretch terry one that sounds just like what you're looking for. If you don't have a local Mervyn's try their website at mervyns.com

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Reply #8 May 29, 2008 4:07 PM
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Thanks for the info!  Not sure what the horizontal mattress pad looks like.  You don't have a link to it do you?  I tried Mervyns.com and couldn't find anything.  I will go look at the store thank you.  Also what about sheets, do you know any good quality stretch sheets?  What do you use?
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Reply #9 May 29, 2008 11:55 PM
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I went to Mervyn's and they didn't have terry cloth or stretch mattress covers.  : (
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Reply #10 May 30, 2008 2:48 AM
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This is why I like my Ultimate CuddleBed from Costco. It makes my topper feel sooooo cushy and cozy. I highly recommend it!


cloud9 wrote:
I returned a couple of mattress pads due to this problem. The tight diamond stitching on most woven cotton mattress pads made to fit snuggly over the mattress with elastic sides actually produces a sort of trampoline effect when you lie on it. Couple that with the stiff liner on the bottom and it does make the mattress or the topper on the mattress feel harder. I discovered that the mattress pads that are quilted in broad horizontal bands are much softer all around and eliminate the trampoline effect completely. </p><p>Leo, I don't know if you have a Mervyn's nearby, but they carry both the mattress pad I just described as well as a stretch terry one that sounds just like what you're looking for. If you don't have a local Mervyn's try their website at mervyns.com</p><p>
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Reply #11 May 30, 2008 5:50 AM
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Leo3 wrote:
I went to Mervyn's and they didn't have terry cloth or stretch mattress covers.  : (


That's odd. I was just in there the other day and they carried both varieties at the Simi Valley store. Call around and ask to speak to someone in the bedding department.
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Reply #12 May 30, 2008 6:53 PM
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Do you know what the mattress cover is called or who makes it?  I wouldn't know what to ask for.  I wonder if Walmart or somewhere else has it?  I wish Costco didn't charge a fee or I would look for the Cuddlebed you guys have.  Also that other topper they no longer make that some of you like.  SO disappointing that you can't even get that now.  Sigh.....
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Reply #13 May 31, 2008 1:28 AM
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It's only sold at Costco.com amd there's no fee. You don't even have to be a member. You can use any credit card, too. Shipping and handling is included.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11189730&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&lang=en-US

It's too bad that Penneys no longer has the Dream Coil pad. Maybe you can write or call Carpenter and ask if they'll sell you one or direct you to where you can:


http://www.carpenter.com/divisions/consumer-products/foamPillows.php <--------------------Click on Bedding on left sidebar and then on the bottom, click on Omalon and read about it.

Leo3 wrote:
Do you know what the mattress cover is called or who makes it?  I wouldn't know what to ask for.  I wonder if Walmart or somewhere else has it?  I wish Costco didn't charge a fee or I would look for the Cuddlebed you guys have.  Also that other topper they no longer make that some of you like.  SO disappointing that you can't even get that now.  Sigh.....
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Reply #14 May 31, 2008 4:28 AM
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Leo3 wrote:
Do you know what the mattress cover is called or who makes it?  I wouldn't know what to ask for.  I wonder if Walmart or somewhere else has it?  I wish Costco didn't charge a fee or I would look for the Cuddlebed you guys have.  Also that other topper they no longer make that some of you like.  SO disappointing that you can't even get that now.  Sigh.....

If you can hold out for a bit longer I'll swing by Mervyns the middle of next week and get that information for you. I was just on their website--not very useful since you can't order merchandise online. Ithink Target also has a mattress pad with wide ribbed bands of quilting, but I couldn't swear to it. But Mervyns stretch terry pad really sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for.

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Reply #15 May 31, 2008 1:20 PM
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cloud9 wrote:
If you can hold out for a bit longer I'll swing by Mervyns the middle of next week and get that information for you. I was just on their website--not very useful since you can't order merchandise online. Ithink Target also has a mattress pad with wide ribbed bands of quilting, but I couldn't swear to it. But Mervyns stretch terry pad really sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for.

Thanks Cloud9 for your help.  I appreciate it.  Yes, Mervyn's website didn't list merchandise even.  That would help to know the brand and maybe I can google it or call somewhere.
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Reply #16 Jun 1, 2008 5:59 AM
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I think it might have been their own brand. I'll check this week. Look for a post on Thursday,
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Reply #17 Jun 1, 2008 5:40 PM
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BeddyBye wrote:
It's only sold at Costco.com amd there's no fee. You don't even have to be a member. You can use any credit card, too. Shipping and handling is included.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11189730&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&lang=en-US

It's too bad that Penneys no longer has the Dream Coil pad. Maybe you can write or call Carpenter and ask if they'll sell you one or direct you to where you can:


http://www.carpenter.com/divisions/consumer-products/foamPillows.php <--------------------Click on Bedding on left sidebar and then on the bottom, click on Omalon and read about it.

Thanks BeddyBye.   It doesn't seem to be obvious you don't have to have a membership card on their website.  Have you, or anyone, returned something that you bought online from Costco, and that you are not a member?  Do they throw you out of the store and laugh at you?  I never liked that store, found customer service not so customer friendly.

I sent an email to Carpenter, will see what they say.
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Reply #18 Jun 6, 2008 5:49 AM
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Leo3 wrote:
Thanks Cloud9 for your help.  I appreciate it.  Yes, Mervyn's website didn't list merchandise even.  That would help to know the brand and maybe I can google it or call somewhere.

Leo, I swung my Mervyns Wednesday. The reason you couldn't find either of those two mattress pads is because they recently discontinued and closed them out. There were just a few of the ribbed pads left in a twin size and all of the stretch terrys were gone. Darn! That terry pad seemed like it was exactly what you were looking for. Why is it they always discontinue the really good products while the so-so ones are stocked forever?

I poked around online and wasn't able to come up with another stretch terry pad anywhere. Bed Bath and Beyond does have a ribbed pad. Looks similar to the one I have and like. It's the Laura Ashley Home Overfilled Ribbed pad with a cotton top. Sells for $29.99 and you can find it in the store so you can take a look at it.

Sorry. I think you missed that stretch terry pad by about three weeks.

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Reply #19 Jun 6, 2008 12:58 PM
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cloud9 wrote:
Leo, I swung my Mervyns Wednesday. The reason you couldn't find either of those two mattress pads is because they recently discontinued and closed them out. There were just a few of the ribbed pads left in a twin size and all of the stretch terrys were gone. Darn! That terry pad seemed like it was exactly what you were looking for. Why is it they always discontinue the really good products while the so-so ones are stocked forever?

I poked around online and wasn't able to come up with another stretch terry pad anywhere. Bed Bath and Beyond does have a ribbed pad. Looks similar to the one I have and like. It's the Laura Ashley Home Overfilled Ribbed pad with a cotton top. Sells for $29.99 and you can find it in the store so you can take a look at it.

Sorry. I think you missed that stretch terry pad by about three weeks.


I always miss the good ones!  Same with the Brylane topper I had to get twin and I needed queen.  Do you think my latex is not as soft because I have layered two?  I went and bought a Penneys zoned latex pillow for the reason that it was 50% off and they may stop making them!  I do like those pillows.

The mattress cover is just like the one I have with vertical lines (I thought you said horizontal lines spaced far apart);  I used my seam ripper and removed some of those lines (stitching) yesterday.  I don't know if it helped because I still had pain because I still used the featherbed!  I have to find a place to store it.  It is past 60 days so I can't take it back to Linens N Things.  I could contact Pacific Coast but it sounds like a nightmare, and they would probably just send me another one that would compress in 2 months again.

Kohl's has a 5 zone topper by Carpenter (PU foam) and it might help and then again in might not!  It is on sale.  I need to see Kohl's return policy.  I am tired of wasting money I don't have.

Thanks for checking, what a bummer.
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Reply #20 Jun 7, 2008 8:32 PM
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I have about given up on the Brylane toppers, I unfortunately bought 3 twins.  I have tried every combination, 2 layers, and featherbed.  Last night 2 layers and it was the worst painful sleepless nights ever!  I think this polyurethane bed is just hopeless.  I wonder if it would be different on our old flippable spring mattress.  My last attempt to use the toppers will be on that bed.  I already know I have pressure pain (hip) in the spring bed though.
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Reply #21 Jun 8, 2008 5:55 AM
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Wow, you are having a rough time with those toppers.

On the Brylane topper--It's not that soft because it's a medium. I guestimate about a 28. I folded it over, which gave me 2" of foam and it felt softer to me--or at least it had more cushioning power. Talalay is very resilient and pushes back against you, and you may be reacting to that quality. If you want soft latex you need to go with something like a 20-22 ILD, but if it's Talalay it will still feel pushy. The other thing is you are using it on a mattress with 5" of memory foam! I can't even imagine sleeping on 5" of memory foam. I suspect that when you add the latex to the top you just sink in even deeper. Toppers are really intended to soften up mattresses that are too firm and they work best on innerspring mattresses.

On the mattress pad: Mine is horizontal ribbing. Just so we're on the same page, the bands go across the bed from side to side, not head to foot. I returned two other mattress pads because they made the bed feel hard. This one is nice and soft. You could call a few Mervyns and see if they have any left in a queen. Washing them a few times tends to soften them up a little too. Guess it's too late because you've already taken the stitches out, but I would think doing that will cause the filling to shift around--especially when you wash it.

I think that mattress of yours is hopeless. You obviously aren't getting the kind of support you need. After wasting time and sleep and money on other kinds of mattresses I've come to the conclusion that an old fashioned flippable innerspring mattress is probably the best thing. Nothing really supports your back like springs, and with all the available choices in quality toppers --latex, memory foam-- you can eliminate the pressure point problem innerspring mattresses used to be known for.

Leo, I wouldn't waste any more money on toppers that will make no difference on your current mattress. Spend your money on a new innerspring mattress. Concentrate on a sturdy coil unit. Get it as firm as you can, then try the toppers you already have on top of it. You can layer them on until you find your comfort zone--good support for your back and enough cushiness for your hips. I think you'll be much happier.

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Reply #22 Jun 8, 2008 3:52 PM
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Thanks Cloud9, do you think this is the same kind of mattress pad you are talking about?
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7811145&sourceid=1500000000000003183730&srccode=cii_15720625&cpncode=12-52863241-2
Yes, I ruined the mattress pad after removing the stitching.  I was desperate!

Good advice dumping that bed.  You must have been sending me your thoughts last night, because we moved the spongebed and spring mattress bed til 1 a.m., and I put the 2 latex toppers on, then a sheet on the spring mattress.  I really felt the latex this time.  But my shoulders hurt and it was quite different, but better for my hips.  I slept 3-4 hours at a time.  Before I would sleep 1 hour at a time!  The memory foam on the Sealy was at the bottom (I flipped it over), but the poly foam was too spongy.  I don't know how they sell those things.  Mine was from 2005.  What a waste of money.

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.  Thanks for the info on the latex toppers being medium.  They are a good quality, and hopefully I can use them.
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Reply #23 Jun 11, 2008 5:43 AM
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Nope, that's not it. Try the link below. This is what it looks like. I'm sure many other places sell similar mattress pads.

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=112153&RN=559&

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Looks like you may be on the way to a good night's sleep with a little tweaking, now that  you've switched to springs. For a lot of people--myself included-- nothing beats the rigid support of a good innerspring mattress. I know what you're going through.  I returned a SleepEZ mattress I simply couldn't sleep on no matter what I did to make it comfortable. It just didn't agree with my back.  I could never sleep for more than two hours on the thing. After a few days at any given configuration of cores I'd find myself getting up in the middle of the night, tearing off the sheets and rearranging the layers to get some relief. It was horrible and although SleepEZ makes a very nice mattress with high quality LI latex, I wouldn't recommend it for you since I don't think it would give you the proper support you need.

Now that you've switched to springs you can see how different your toppers feel than they did on the MF. If you want to make the bed a little cushier without losing too much support consider ordering the Overstock.com 1" memory foam topper and lay it over the latex. You might even find that one inch of latex with one inch of the MF over it gives you more comfort than the 2" of latex alone. It depends on how firm you mattress is and how much discomfort you have in your shoulders. I believe that with an innerspring mattress and the correct combination of toppers you can make a bed that is extremely comfortable and gives you the best night's sleep it's possible to have. You're probably really down on MF right now, but this stuff is cheap and doesn't sleep hot and if you don't like you can return it.  One foot note, if you do decide to order it go with a king because it runs narrow and short and with a little trimming you can make it fit end to end. Just try it out to see if you like it before you cut, in case you want to return it. It's the same $39 any size. 

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Reply #24 Jun 11, 2008 7:41 PM
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Well I had to get a mattress pad ASAP, so I went to every store on this side of town (even 2 Mervyn stores), then we went to the other side of town and looked at all the dept. stores, and discount stores.  I ended up at JC Penneys because of their good return policy and because it was the only mattress pad that resembled a topper, only not as thick.  The one you showed in the link to Bed bath & beyond looks like vertical strips, and close together.  Anyway, I looked at the backing on all of the pads and the only one that was NOT STIFF and had soft backing, and extra padding was at Penneys, it also had large boxes.  It has been 2 nights, and it does change the feel of the bed, but not like a stiff hammocking effect.

I may try the 1" MF if I need too. I still does need something for my hips, but the pain is less than before.  I think  2" of latex may be too much.  I did sink in and then my legs hurt (when I used a sheet only).  But the padding in the mattress pad does soften it a bit, but I am not sinking in as much as I was, due to mattress pad and cotton sheets.

I do love the spring bed again.  No I don't think I could ever do the all latex, I guess I do need the springs.  I did not realize how picky I am and my body is not as forgiving as it once was.  Thanks for all your input, and I learn so much reading this forum.  It is a real challenge to make your mattress work for you.  I also learned from reading past posts about taking the cover off the latex pillow to make it softer, it actually does!  The cover really was tight, I don't have pain in that area now.  Before I removed the cover my ear was actually numb when I woke up every few hours.
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Reply #25 Jun 13, 2008 1:52 PM
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Now I wake up with red marks covering half of my hip and leg area.  Obviously the sheets and mattress pad make it tight.  I tried to find the stretchy mattress cover and they are no where to be found.  I decided  not to try the cuddlebed because Costco here is just awful (crowded and long lines) and returning it would be too hard (if I had too).  I like to see what it is before I buy.

I certainly am at a loss of what to try now.
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Reply #26 Jun 14, 2008 1:18 AM
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I would give the CuddleBed a try anyway. If you DID have to return it, couldn't you go when Costco first opens? I still think you would like it.


Leo3 wrote:
Now I wake up with red marks covering half of my hip and leg area.  Obviously the sheets and mattress pad make it tight.  I tried to find the stretchy mattress cover and they are no where to be found.  I decided  not to try the cuddlebed because Costco here is just awful (crowded and long lines) and returning it would be too hard (if I had too).  I like to see what it is before I buy.<BR><BR>I certainly am at a loss of what to try now.<br type="_moz"/>
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Reply #27 Jun 14, 2008 12:14 PM
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BeddyBye wrote:
I would give the CuddleBed a try anyway. If you DID have to return it, couldn't you go when Costco first opens? I still think you would like it.

Is the bottom of the Cuddlebed regular cotton, or is it a polyester?  The boxes look the same as the Penneys mattress pad  I have to take back.  The reason I think it is so tight is it curls up and you have to pull it tight to get it to fit.  Does the Cuddle bed have to be pulled on?  Do you put regular cotton sheets on top and does it wrinkle up badly?   I noticed it has a wall on the edges, doesn't that make the sheet impossible to lay flat on the top?

I laughed when you said couldn't I go to Costco when it first opens, I sleep so badly that when I finally do sleep I don't get up til 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. anymore!  Good idea though.

I tried sleeping with my cheap jersey sheets over the latex last night and it left marks on me, and didn't feel good at all.  I really need something on top of the latex or try something completely different underneath.  That is two mattress pads that do not work, I am not sure anything will work!  Maybe it is the latex?  I tried to just sleep on the mattress and wow was that awful.
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Reply #28 Jun 15, 2008 2:40 AM
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The CuddleBed is designed to fit a mattress up to 21" high. It's not tight at all and yet it conforms very nicely...in other words, not too loose, either. It's just perfect. You do NOT have to pull it tight to fit.The bedskirt is of a high quality material that hugs the mattress wonderfully. The CuddleBed then fits right up to the edges and never slips. I know that the top fabric is a luxurious 400 count 100% cotton. Not sure about the bottom. I just know that once I put it on my mattress over my topper, it stays put. The sheets fit perfectly over the CuddleBed. No wrinkles or riding up whatsoever. I use regular cotton sheets of decent thread count.

Oh come on---give it a try! I think you'll be pleased with the feel. How will you know unless you try it? That way you won't need to keep asking me questions about it. :-) I love it so much, I bought TWO! I'm keeping the new one around in case my first one "wears out". But so far, it hasn't shown any sign of wear and tear. I really like the CuddleBed!


Leo3 wrote:
Is the bottom of the Cuddlebed regular cotton, or is it a polyester?  The boxes look the same as the Penneys mattress pad  I have to take back.  The reason I think it is so tight is it curls up and you have to pull it tight to get it to fit.  Does the Cuddle bed have to be pulled on?  Do you put regular cotton sheets on top and does it wrinkle up badly?   I noticed it has a wall on the edges, doesn't that make the sheet impossible to lay flat on the top?<BR><BR>I laughed when you said couldn't I go to Costco when it first opens, I sleep so badly that when I finally do sleep I don't get up til 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. anymore!  Good idea though.<BR><BR>I tried sleeping with my cheap jersey sheets over the latex last night and it left marks on me, and didn't feel good at all.  I really need something on top of the latex or try something completely different underneath.  That is two mattress pads that do not work, I am not sure anything will work!  Maybe it is the latex?  I tried to just sleep on the mattress and wow was that awful.
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Reply #29 May 28, 2013 12:43 PM
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beddy bye this cuddlebed you are talking about is it from walmart or Costco ..... One you can wash in the washer and the other one says no washing

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