Latex (Flobed) sinks in middle.. suggestions?
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Hi, Had my CKing Flobed about 6 months now. Aside from the cat, I sleep alone and always end up in the middle of the bed....over the separation between the cores. There's a very clear feelign of sinking in between the cores, or causing them to separate somewhat. Rolling to either side is a bit of a 'going uphill' feeling. Any suggestions on ways to eliminate or minimize this? It seems like, ideally, with the three cores, you would alternate their orientation like II = II in order instead of II II II ... Chris |
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| Your bed isn't perfectly square, so you cant rotate the cores. Do you have a center support on your frame? How many legs does it have? Oh, and how much does your cat weigh? lol. |
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texfire wrote: Hi, Had my CKing Flobed about 6 months now. Aside from the cat, I sleep alone and always end up in the middle of the bed....over the separation between the cores. There's a very clear feelign of sinking in between the cores, or causing them to separate somewhat. Rolling to either side is a bit of a 'going uphill' feeling. Any suggestions on ways to eliminate or minimize this? It seems like, ideally, with the three cores, you would alternate their orientation like II = II in order instead of II II II ... Chris Well Chris I'm going to try this again. I just wrote you a lengthy response in this crazy site and the way it works it all got wiped out. So let me try again. I feel your pain as I am looking into this very situation as we speak I just got back from driving out of state to try out a natural latex bed as there is no dealers in my area. I am more perplexed than ever. My complexity has to do with the fact that I cannot decide between Dunlop and Talalay. some people say that they do not like Talalay because it pushes back at them too much. Other people say that it "bottoms out". Unfortunately Flowbeds does not handle Dunlop only Talalay. So I am in a quandary. The business you mention about the crack between the split pieces is a concern of mine as well. However many people have told me not to worry as the friction between the pieces keeps them from giving you a problem. You of course, have your own personal experience, and would beg to differ. Flowbeds seems to be a very reasonable company so I would talk to them about this. The bed that I have looked at at FlowBeds is a postured deluxe organic cotton -- natural talalay green mattress that costs $2,949. it is a four layer mattress with the top layer being a two inch piece, that as far as I can ascertain, is a one-piece convoluted natural talalay foam. This should take care of any crack problem. I would check with Flowbeds and see if they cannot provide this for you at a very reasonable price as you have this crack problem. The question I have for you Chris is before you made your decision did you have an opportunity to try out a Dunlop mattress and compare it to a talalay mattress? This for me is the most perplexing thing of all because even though I drove out of state today to try out a mattress they only had two pieces of talalay as they prefer Dunlop. Which way to go? What to do? In advance thanks for your response. Don |
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"Your bed isn't perfectly square, so you cant rotate the cores. Do you have a center support on your frame? How many legs does it have? Oh, and how much does your cat weigh? lol. eagle2" Well, my cat is 18 lbs so I'm not denying he may be a contributing factor! Yea, I do have a center support (so three vertically oriented supports) and then full coverage horizontal boards with no gap > a quarter of an inch. I can stand on it. I don't think it's the frame. "So let me try again. The business you mention about the crack between the split pieces is a concern of mine as well. However many people have told me not to worry as the friction between the pieces keeps them from giving you a problem. You of course, have your own personal experience, and would beg to differ. Flowbeds seems to be a very reasonable company so I would talk to them about this. The bed that I have looked at at FlowBeds is a postured deluxe organic cotton -- natural talalay green mattress that costs $2,949. it is a four layer mattress with the top layer being a two inch piece, that as far as I can ascertain, is a one-piece convoluted natural talalay foam. This should take care of any crack problem. I would check with Flowbeds and see if they cannot provide this for you at a very reasonable price as you have this crack problem. The question I have for you Chris is before you made your decision did you have an opportunity to try out a Dunlop mattress and compare it to a talalay mattress? This for me is the most perplexing thing of all because even though I drove out of state today to try out a mattress they only had two pieces of talalay as they prefer Dunlop. Which way to go? What to do? In advance thanks for your response." I can't offer you anything in the manner of type of latex. This is the only latex bed I've laid upon except for the sealy latex and I have no clue what they are made of. I tend to like my bed firmer so I don't have a problem with feeling 'push back' though I guess I could sense that sensation... but I don't consider it a problem. As for flobeds, they've been very helpful with me in the past, because I way underestimated the firmness of the cores I liked. They went beyond what they were obligated to do to fix that. They actually monitor this site apparently and have emailed me about this issue. I do think the split is the problem for me. I can sleep like this, feel the separation, and then take the bed apart. Underneath the egg-shell foam, you can see that the cores are not even...one will be 2 inches or so squished below the other. I'm not sure if they are too tight or too loose at their juncture. One thought they had was to use an adhesive to bond the cores together which would seemingly solve the problem if I can line it up right and the adhesive holds. I'm following up with them on that. That's about all for now.. I'll keep you updated. Chris |
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Thanks for the response Chris. Good luck with Flobeds. They are a good company I feel, and will work with there customers to make sure they are satisfied. One of the best I believe. Let us know how you make out. This is a most interesting question for me, about this split business. |
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Hi Chris, I'm curious if you got this problem solved (sinking in middle) and what you did. Also what firmness cores do you have? I'm having a problem with some depression in my soft top layer, but if I put a medium on top, it's too soft. My bed is all natural talay from FloBeds. FloBeds has great customer service, but I'm not sure I like the all-talaly bed... Linda |
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linda wrote: Hi Chris, I'm curious if you got this problem solved (sinking in middle) and what you did. Also what firmness cores do you have? I'm having a problem with some depression in my soft top layer, but if I put a medium on top, it's too soft. My bed is all natural talay from FloBeds. FloBeds has great customer service, but I'm not sure I like the all-talaly bed... Linda Yes Chris, hope all is well with you. All of use, looking into this question of split latex, would very much appreciate a response. Thanks in advance. Linda: my question to you is this line in your post, "I'm having a problem with some depression in my soft top layer, but if I put a medium on top, it's too soft." I can not understand your statement. Is this a typo? Are you saying that your top layer is firm and too soft? Please explain. The reason I am asking this question is I have been debating for some time between Dunlop and Talalay natural latex foam. This is the problem with Flowbeds they do not offer Dunlop. So any and all information you can share with us would be greatly appreciated. |
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Hi Don, I wrote a response to yoiur post in the thread "Savvy Rest Repot" which may give you more info. I have the 4 layer all-natural talalay, with the very top layer being the convulted "eggcrate" piece) I didn't word my response above very well. Basically I need a soft top layer (not counting the convuluted layer), but am trying to find the right combo of softness and support overall. If I put a medium layer on top, I don't find it soft enough. I find the top soft core gets a bit depressed in the middle where my hips are, and am concerned especially over the long term.I only sleep on one side of the bed so have not experienced the "split" problem that Chris is having. (In fact, my 12 year old bed had a split latex mattress (except for 2" wool topper which was all one piece) and I never had a problem with the split with that either. BUT, that was very, very firm latex (probably dunlap, but the company couldn't confirm as they don't even carry that exact bed anymore). Chris, what density piece do you have? If the top ones are soft talalay, I wonder if the issue is due to the softness? Linda |
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linda wrote: Hi Don, I wrote a response to yoiur post in the thread "Savvy Rest Repot" which may give you more info. I have the 4 layer all-natural talalay, with the very top layer being the convulted "eggcrate" piece) I didn't word my response above very well. Basically I need a soft top layer (not counting the convuluted layer), but am trying to find the right combo of softness and support overall. If I put a medium layer on top, I don't find it soft enough. I find the top soft core gets a bit depressed in the middle where my hips are, and am concerned especially over the long term.I only sleep on one side of the bed so have not experienced the "split" problem that Chris is having. (In fact, my 12 year old bed had a split latex mattress (except for 2" wool topper which was all one piece) and I never had a problem with the split with that either. BUT, that was very, very firm latex (probably dunlap, but the company couldn't confirm as they don't even carry that exact bed anymore). Chris, what density piece do you have? If the top ones are soft talalay, I wonder if the issue is due to the softness? Linda Linda: I have a response for you in the other thread as well. possibly something that might work for you is to have Flowbeds change with you your convoluted two inch top piece for a regular soft piece that is not convoluted. But again as I said in the other thread, call Flowbeds and talk to Dave or Dewey and seek their advice. They seem to be very helpful people and of course they are quite knowledgeable about their own product. I feel quite sure they will do everything they can to make you comfortable so that they do not have to take back your bed and give you a refund. If I were you I would not let the idea that they do not have Dunlop bother you too much. It is very easy to get an idea in our minds and for that idea to become a "self-fulfilling prophecy". Some companies are so adverse to the exchange business for this very reason,, that people will become convinced of something and there's nothing they can do to change their minds. One company Habitat, has a simple solution. They have a "three sizes fits all" approach. They make a six-inch Dunlop bed in one piece with a cover on it and ship it to you. There is nothing to exchange but they do have 160 day return policy. Their second offering is the same six inch Dunlop core with a two inch Talalay glued to the top with a cover on it. The third offering is the same six-inch Dunlop core with a three inch Talalay piece glued to the top of it with a cover on it. So there is no switching around you either like it or return it for a refund and that's the end of it. I like Savvy Rest, Flowbeds and SleepEZ approach much better. This message was modified Aug 29, 2009 by eagle2
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Hi, I've had some email communication with flobeds.Their sugggestion (which I'm going to go get today) is to use an adhesive to glue the pieces together. And see how that works. I guess I'l do a couple of layers. As for my thickness, I've honestly forgotten the order of my layers, but I have the convoluted top, with 2 xfirms and 1 firm underneath. I started with a firm and 2 mediums, and over the course of months, kept going firmer and firmer..mainly due to low back pain with sleeping on my back. Now I don't have pain regardless of my position. I'll let you know how the adhesive process works out. chris |
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