Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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My FBM latex mattress has arrived. I have a 2" soft latex topper over a 6" firm core. I ordered firm due to my size, however, I prefer a plush feeling sleep system. I am still waking up sore in several places. My existing box spring was shot, so I discarded it. My mattress is currently on the floor. My question is where to start to go about making it more comfortable?
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Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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I just got my FBM latex in, just tonight and after laying on it, I would say "add" more latex. x2 1" FBM latex 20 ILD. Or 1" 32 ILD + 1" 20 ILD I'm making a thread right now on it so you can read my opinion on the latex. The rest of this post is about a nice box spring, which I also want to upgrade mine later to a tension slat frame. Now if he hand makes you the box spring, he could make the top of the box spring have more boards going across which would support your foam without it slipping between large cracks. I'm sure you have seen this thread but it has pictures of slatted foundation but you should upgrade the frame later and have him make you a hybrid box spring + slatted top So here is slatted foundation http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/diy-slat-foundation-pictures-included/4898-0-1.html It would be nice to have a custom box spring with a slatted top. Instead of a box spring, like I use with a flat thick oak board between it and the mattress. You can just lay the mattress right on your custom box spring. This would be a really nice custom job. If you decide to not get a box spring for foam mattress, you can get a slat foundation like the one in that thread OR they make one where the slats are longer than the frame, this adds tension to the slats as they bend upwards, they need to be very close together for a foam mattress though. They make these foundations for both spring and foam, the difference is how far the slats are apart. When you place the mattress on top, these slats push down from the weight, they also push upwards, just like a box spring would do. As you lay on the mattress the slats bend downwards, increasing upward tension even more, like a box spring. I think the best foundation is a custom made "close slat" top box spring OR a "close slat" tension frame. I have a ghetto middle road solution, box spring for coil mattress and since foam will slip between the frame slats (very wide apart) there is a board between. I'll upgrade my frame later. This message was modified Apr 11, 2009 by Phalse
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Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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Sorry you are still having pain......I hope you find a combo that works for you. FYI on slatted foundations: we ordered the slatted foundation from Michigan Discount Mattress, size queen. Hubby put it together only to discover that it won't fit in our queen bed with rails. It is too wide at the headboard, where there is an extra amount of wood. We had to disassemble it and return it at our expense. So, if anyone else is considering ordering one, beware. Our standard queen spring box foundation fits in the frame fine, maybe b/c of the flexibility of it. Off to try the DIY one in thread or buy a box foundation locally. |
Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
| Well, went to see the guy who makes the coil box spring. He stated he's been making mattresses for over 50 years and was vehemently against placing a latex mattress on a coiled box spring. He had me to try several mattresses, some latex, some not. When we finally found the mattress with the softness I desired. He suggested he build a slatted foundation for $100 bucks, and I should add a 2"-3" layer of medium latex between the firm core and soft topper. He suggested I may be sinking in the soft topper and reaching the firm core. He advised that it would be more expensive for me to purchase latex layer from him, b/c his price is much higher than FBM. I am so frustrated, and just want a good nights sleep. I just can't keep spending money with no results. Does anyone have experience or suggestions, will the medium layer really make a difference? |
Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
| Did the mattress maker say WHY not put the latex on the box spring? Too heavy? I can see just putting 2-3" latex on a regular mattress, but probably not more than that. I also think you are sinking into the firm layer. What is the ILD of the soft? 22? Not sure what your weight is, so can't not sure what you need. But unfortunately it is trial and error. What is the firm ILD? Maybe memory foam would help. Not sure. Good luck and let us know what finally works. I had a cuddlebed, it didn't help me, I removed it. Everyone is different though. |
Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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He stated the latex needed to breathe and should be put on slatted foundation. (Shaun at SleepEz advised it was ok to use coil box spring). The 6" core is firm, (not sure of ILD, maybe 40), the 2" topper is 20ILD. I am a large person. This message was modified Apr 16, 2009 by gracie14
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Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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Latex only needs to "breathe" if in high humidity states. It only needs to breathe to prevent mold, if you live in dry climate I believe you are fine. I think you need something else on the top layer other than the super soft latex on top. Do you have a memory foam topper in your closet? |
Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
| Well, I live in Houston,Tx and it can get pretty humid during the summer. No, I don't have a memory foam topper. I'm not a fan of memory foam, at least the beds I've tried haven't been comfortable. |
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gracie14 wrote: Well, went to see the guy who makes the coil box spring. He stated he's been making mattresses for over 50 years and was vehemently against placing a latex mattress on a coiled box spring. He had me to try several mattresses, some latex, some not. When we finally found the mattress with the softness I desired. He suggested he build a slatted foundation for $100 bucks, and I should add a 2"-3" layer of medium latex between the firm core and soft topper. He suggested I may be sinking in the soft topper and reaching the firm core. He advised that it would be more expensive for me to purchase latex layer from him, b/c his price is much higher than FBM. I am so frustrated, and just want a good nights sleep. I just can't keep spending money with no results. Does anyone have experience or suggestions, will the medium layer really make a difference? You likely are sinking through the top layer into the firm base - if you lay directly on the firm base, does it feel too firm? I'm in a simillar situation - we have a firm foam base /w a memory foam topper, and we sink through and it's too firm - even with a 2" convolute the base is too firm. Trying a couple of inches of medium latex makes sense, but it may be that the base is just too firm. |
Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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Well, I've purchased a box spring. And to no avail, the mattress is still too firm. When I lay on my side my pressure points began to ache after an hour or two. I added 2 old toppers, folded, (zoned, eggcrate I believe) and it was somewhat better, but I woke up with an aching back. I am so frustrated, I don't know what step to take next. FBM staff are not very knowledgeable, I've received conflicting suggestions. I was told adding latex would only make it firmer. (i.e. the more latex, the firmer the mattress no matter what the ILD is), then I was told add convoluted topper or more latex. I'm beginning to feel as if I've wasted my money, and that never makes me happy. Yes, when I lay on the base without the topper, it is way too firm. This message was modified May 3, 2009 by gracie14
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Re: Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
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Still too firm... So what is the exact setup right now, top to bottom? Is the box spring just a box foundation, or does it actually have springs in it? |