Latex Mattress has arrived, suggestions needed.
Apr 5, 2009 10:11 AM
Joined: Feb 8, 2009
Points: 18
My FBM latex mattress has arrived.  I have a 2" soft latex topper over a 6" firm core. I ordered firm due to my size, however,  I prefer a plush feeling sleep system.  I am still waking up sore in several places.  My existing box spring was shot, so I discarded it.  My mattress is currently on the floor.
My question is where to start to go about making it more comfortable?
  •  Do I need to add more latex? 
  •  Do I need to order a cuddlebed from Costco?
  •  Will a slatted foundation neccessarily make the mattress any softer?  I have been thinking of getting the Versiflex foundation from online.
I think I won't need the foundation anymore once I purchase my platform bed. (It's expensive and I'm still saving for it), but if it will help I'll have to order it. I don't have a lot of money, so I don't want to sink money into the wrong thing.  Suggestions greatly appreciated, as to I have no clue where to begin.
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Reply #20 Apr 17, 2009 2:36 AM
Joined: Feb 8, 2009
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gracie14 wrote:
Well, went to see the guy who makes the coil box spring.  He stated he's been making mattresses for over 50 years and was vehemently against placing a latex mattress on a coiled box spring.  He had me to try several mattresses, some latex, some not.  When we finally found the mattress with the softness I desired.  He suggested he build a slatted foundation for $100 bucks, and I should add a 2"-3" layer of medium latex between the firm core and soft topper. He suggested I may be sinking in the soft topper and reaching the firm core.  He advised that it would be more expensive for me to purchase latex layer from him, b/c his price is much higher than FBM.  I am so frustrated, and just want a good nights sleep.  I just can't keep spending money with no results. Does anyone have experience or suggestions, will the medium layer really make a difference?

You likely are sinking through the top layer into the firm base - if you lay directly on the firm base, does it feel too firm? I'm in a simillar situation - we have a firm foam base /w a memory foam topper, and we sink through and it's too firm - even with a 2" convolute the base is too firm. Trying a couple of inches of medium latex makes sense, but it may be that the base is just too firm.
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Reply #21 May 3, 2009 6:16 PM
Joined: Feb 8, 2009
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Well, I've purchased a box spring.  And to no avail, the mattress is still too firm.  When I lay on my side my pressure points began to ache after an hour or two. I added 2 old toppers, folded,  (zoned, eggcrate I believe) and it was somewhat better, but I woke up with an aching back.  I am so frustrated, I don't know what step to take next.  FBM staff are not very knowledgeable, I've received conflicting suggestions. I was told adding latex would only make it firmer. (i.e. the more latex, the firmer the mattress no matter what the ILD is), then I was told add convoluted topper or more latex.  I'm beginning to feel as if I've wasted my money, and that never makes me happy. 

Yes, when I lay on the base without the topper, it is way too firm.
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Reply #22 May 4, 2009 9:27 AM
Location: Oregon
Joined: Oct 25, 2008
Points: 130
Still too firm...  So what is the exact setup right now, top to bottom?

Is the box spring just a box foundation, or does it actually have springs in it?

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Reply #23 May 4, 2009 9:32 AM
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I have a 2" soft (20ILD from FBM) latex topper, 6" firm core (not sure of ILD, from FBM) atop a 10" coiled box spring. When I lay on the bed initially, it's okay-but after a while maybe 30mins to an hour it begins to hurt my pressure points and feel uncomfortable, it feels too hard.
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Reply #24 May 6, 2009 4:24 PM
Location: Oregon
Joined: Oct 25, 2008
Points: 130
gracie14 wrote:
I have a 2" soft (16ILD from FBM) latex topper, 6" firm core (not sure of ILD, from FBM) atop a 10" coiled box spring. When I lay on the bed initially, it's okay-but after a while maybe 30mins to an hour it begins to hurt my pressure points and feel uncomfortable, it feels too hard.

Gracie - at this point, if its still too firm, its either the core being too firm, or not enough comfort layer.  I think the easiest, inexpensive thing to do now is to try the $50. Costco Cuddle bed.  It will add about 1" of soft fiber in the comfort layer and should not cause any back pain.  With this product from Costco, if it doesn't work, you can send it back. I think they are only available at costco.com.  
This did the trick for my wife who complained about shoulder pain in our setup before adding the cuddle bed mattress pad.
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Reply #25 May 9, 2009 9:21 PM
Joined: Sep 6, 2008
Points: 87
After reading your thread Gracie, I wonder if a "Euro-Slat" foundation would be the thing to give you some "give and support" where you need it.

You mention you sleep on your side ... as I.

Recently, my wife and I just purchased and Ottoman with a PULLOUT SINGLE BED. What is really great about this is it has "Euro Slats" or flexible birch slats with a really cheap thing PU pad ... and I have to say it is REALLY comfortable ... more so than my 12 year old Simmons Pocket Coil.

I am getting ready to make my purchase and believe this is a critical component for future sleep filled nights. Type Euro Slats in the search engine for this site and you will find some great threads.
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Reply #26 May 12, 2009 5:22 AM
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I was told that a slatted foundation would only make the mattress firmer.  I am thinking of scrapping the whole mattress and just start over with something local and safe.  Something I can try out before buying.

 I spoke with Bambi at FBM as to my options, she only seemed to confuse and frustrate me.  I am convinced no one there really knows what they are selling.  She first stated she could not provide the ILD number of the 6" firm core, because they do not receive exact ILD info, they just know it's within the range of 33-38.  I asked if the info was documented/provided before my mattress shipped?  She stated it was not because it was not known. Later when I advised it is far too firm for me, she claimed that I had a 33ILD and would not see much difference in the medium firm with ILD  of 32.  I then asked how would she know the exact ILD of medium firm and not firm?  She could not answer, only stated I would not feel a difference between firm and medium firm. And she also gave me the typical mattress needs about a month or so to be broken in, to which I explained that is kind of uselss since you only have 30 days to return mattress.  She became silent.  I became so frustrated at the contradictions, I just decided to stop there. 


I was considering purchasing a 3" medium topper to place between soft topper and firm core, but am reluctant to sink more money into this project.  Now, I'm stuck with a mattress I can't sleep on.  I may now have to opt for a less expensive mattress from the local Sam's Club. It's a 12" memory foam/latex mattress  by  Night Therapy.  I'm not crazy about memory foam but I'm running out of $$$ to throw at this problem.  
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Reply #27 May 12, 2009 11:56 AM
Joined: Nov 19, 2008
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Have you tried BillB's suggestion about a memory foam topper or Cuddle Bed? I also like a soft bed, and I've had success so far with my FBM 6" firm core with 3" soft topper on a platform bed. I have a Cuddle Bed mattress cover from Costco; it has a pillowtop section filled with batting (polyester, I think) and adds about an inch or so of additional softness.  Good luck in whatever decision you make.