My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Jul 11, 2010 6:38 PM
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My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress 

After hours of Internet research, reading retail and manufacturer sites, over a hundred forum posts on the topic from consumers, and talking to three of the leading (non-chain) latex mattress retailers, I bought a latex mattress yesterday, put it together and had my first night’s sleep on it. A sports injury is keeping me in this weekend so I thought I’d save you many hours of research by detailing my search.

Why should you consider my advice? (1) I am a marketing professional from an industry unrelated to mattresses (and therefore able to recognize and cut through much of the marketing hype) (2) I am an obsessive researcher (3) I have a talent for sorting facts and getting to the bottom line, and (4) I’ve owned futons, spring mattresses, a water bed, and an airbed (and can therefore give you a practical comparison to my new latex mattress).

Most of what you can find out from the Internet and speaking to retailers is subjective, proven scientific facts are almost non-existent. So I will lay out my decision making process and you can decide if it makes sense for you.

12 years ago I bought an airbed from Sleep-ezeey (now out of business) for $600 after considering models from Select Comfort, that at the time were more than twice as expensive. The reason we bought an airbed was because my tossing bounced the wife around, and because it allowed us to adjust softness on each side to our individual preference. It worked great, but our cat peed on it, and, trying to get the odor out, I managed to shrink the zippered pillow top so that it no longer fit. An airbed without a zippered enclosure feels like a marshmallow, so it was time to buy a new mattress. 

My wife discovered the latex option last week and I started my research. We ruled out memory foam because they tend to retain body heat, and we both “sleep hot”. They are also expensive and I had read rumors of them sagging over time. And lastly, my wife tried one and it did not click for her. I identified the airbeds at habitatfurnishings.com as the current best value in airbeds, but decided on latex simply to try something different.

My research led me to select three finalists for latex mattress consideration: sleepez.com, habitatfurnishings.com, and foamsweetfoam.com. All of them are comparable in that they have excellent Better Business Bureau ratings, offer quality product, and have amassed many positive reviews from customers.

Sleep EZ had the best price (but be sure to read the qualifiers that follow), Habitat Furnishing’s (HF) website gave me the most confidence, and Foam Sweet Foam (FSF) was local (Irvine, CA) and I could check out the beds in-store and take a mattress home with me that day. Although FSF was more expensive than Sleep EZ, and had 60-day return policy with an 18% restocking fee and I had to pay sales tax (versus 180-day return, no restocking fee, and no sales tax). I went with FSF because it would take a week to get a mattress from Sleep EZ and I had two weeks of travel coming up, my wife was dealing with a family emergency, and I did not want her to have to hassle with setting a mattress up by herself, or sleeping on a marshmallow for another week.

After visiting the FSF showroom and speaking with the owner Scott, I had confidence that we would not need to return the mattress, and FSF does offer a 30-day no-cost swap of one layer in case you need to tune the bed to a different firmness/softness. Scott’s knowledge, candor, and 29 years of experience also convinced me that he knew how put people on the right mattress from the start, so that a return was less likely.

I should clarify my statement that FSF is more expensive. Actually, if you are comparing all-natural latex mattresses of the same thickness, they are on par with the other two retailers. I bought a FSF Cal. King with three layers, each 3-inches thick. Cost was $2,099, subtract $50 discount because I picked it up, add 8.75% California sales tax (this State is out of control) and the final cost was $2,228. We also got two latex pillows for “free” because we bought it on a weekend. So FSF’s 9” mattress is actually cheaper than HF’s 9” and on par with HF’s 8”.

So when you are comparing mattresses check the actual thickness of the foam versus the “finished height”. For example, Sleep EZ’s model Select Sleep 8500 has three layers of foam which actually add up to 7.5-inches of thickness. The extra inch that gets it to 8.5-inches is made up by the quilted cotton/wool mattress cover. Now, Sleep EZ and Habit Furnishings include the cover in their price and FSF does not…I’ll give you my conclusion on that difference later in this article.

I told you Sleep EZ was the least expensive, but that’s only if you purchase the Blended 60/40 models, not the 100% all-natural. Their 60/40 blended Select Sleep 10,000 model Cal. King (9-inches foam, 1-inch cover) is $1,795. Their all-natural version is $2,040. So when comparing their all-natural to FSF’s, the price difference is negligible…unless you want the free cover, which FSF charges for.

I’ll bullet point a few key facts below, but in summary I will tell you that had we not been in the middle of a family emergency, with me leaving on a business trip, and the wife sleeping on a broken airbed, I would (probably) have opted to save $433 by ordering the Sleep EZ 60/40 blended Select Sleep 10,000 model (more on my opinion of all-natural versus blends below). That said, being able to test beds at FSF’s showroom, and talking to Scott in-person, gave us confidence that we would like the bed and would not need to hassle with shipping back a layer (or a whole bed) and having to deal with the disruption that would entail. And at the end of the day, if a guy like Scott (29 years in the business) gives you the service of forthright information with no pressure (his time is worth something, as is his showroom) then you should factor that into the cost as well. I feel that I received good value for my money going with FSF relative to the other options (that said, latex seems more expensive than it should be…sigh).

By the way, Scott shared some great stories about observing the relationship dynamics of couples choosing a bed. Based on his stories and my personal experience, every couple considering marriage should take two tests first (1) take ballroom dancing lessons together, and (2) buy a mattress together. Those two things will be a sure test of your compatibility.

He also told me that when he does get returns (and he hardly gets any), it’s usually for one of two reasons. Either the customer did not take his advice, or the husband did not get full buy-in from the wife. As any long-term married guy will tell you, as much as she let’s you think you’re the boss, you’re not. Happy wife = Happy life.

Natural Latex versus Blended – Synthetic and Blended Latex mattresses have been around for years with no issues. They compare to natural in feel, performance, and longevity. And they are less expensive. Right now the fashion is to “go green” so the trend to buy synthetic latex or blends has changed in favor of natural latex. I bought natural because that was the mattress I could take home that day, in my plastic and metal car to my house built with chemically treated lumber and finished in synthetic paint. Due to our cat’s infrequent but uncivilized urinary practices, we will cover our natural latex mattress with a waterproof synthetic mattress pad, effectively negating any “natural” benefits other than the overall concern for the environment. 

But, regarding the environment….I don’t know for a fact that the production of natural latex is actually less harmful then synthetic. There are a lot of people driving hybrid cars who don’t realize that the nickel-metal hydride battery packs have a large carbon footprint that could negate much of the cars environmental benefit. But, if you can afford natural latex and it makes you feel better, then by all means. Just don’t assume that it is in fact kinder to the environment…I couldn’t find conclusive scientific data either way.

Mattress Covers – If you are buying a natural latex mattress for green reasons, then you want an all-natural mattress cover. If you have kids or pets you may want to protect your investment with a waterproof synthetic cover instead. After all, who wants to sleep on a mattress for 20-30 years that smells like cat pee and/or Cheerios? You should also consider that an all-natural (cotton/wool) cover will be cooler and will allow you to “feel” more of the benefit of your natural latex mattress. But do you really need a quilted $100-$200 cover? Not if you believe your natural latex mattress feels great the way it is. By and large the more expensive covers are something people “think” they need. As I said, I went with a waterproof cover because of that damned cat. If the cat was not in the picture I would have topped our natural latex mattress with a cotton cover that I could afford to replace every few years.

The three retailers I narrowed my choice down to are certainly not the only ones to consider. FloBeds gets good reviews online and Costco.com also sells a few latex models. In Costco’s case there was a 4-6 week wait so that put them out of the running. After you get done sorting the facts and checking your budget, it ultimately comes down to what feels best. An $800 spring mattress may work best for you, and replacing it after 6 or 8 years may end up being a batter strategy than sleeping on the same $2,200 mattress for 20 years. If you’ve decided on an airbed, I recommend you give serious consideration to the ones at Habit Furnishings. They seem to offer much more value than the more heavily advertised brands, and my 12-year experience with my off-brand airbed was excellent. 

Here are a few links you may want to research. The first is to Latex International, which, as far as I can tell, is the leading U.S. manufacturer of latex mattresses and seems to be the supplier to the three retailers discussed in this article. There are many companies in China making latex and from what I can tell the quality varies. Plus I’m leery of sleeping on anything not made to U.S. health standards. The second article is from Slate, and injects some reality into a decision process that can get a little crazy. But you do spend six to nine hours of your day on a mattress, so maybe a little craziness is warranted.

And finally, my first night on the FSM natural latex mattress was great. I didn’t dream about unicorns or wake up feeling 20 years younger, but I slept well and I’m very happy with it so far. 

Good luck and sweet dreams,

Blingo

http://www.latexfoam.com/

http://www.slate.com/id/93956

http://www.foamsweetfoam.com/

http://www.habitatfurnishings.com/

http://www.sleepez.com/

http://www.cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/Hidden%20Cost%20of%20Driving%20a%20Prius%20Commentary.pdf

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #1 Jul 12, 2010 2:36 PM
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blingo99 wrote:

  Plus I’m leery of sleeping on anything not made to U.S. health standards.
 


I enjoyed reading your experience! Thank you for sharing yes

I got a chuckle though about your quote above...do we really "have standards" in this country when it comes to health? Or is it more about the green back and what it will draw in? I think our country is approving more and more things as "safe" when they truly are not. No, I'm not an environmentalist (or a liberal) by any means. I just know for a fact that people, young and old, are being affected by what we sleep on, consume and breathe, on a daily basis...yet nothing seems to be changing for the better....things just cost more to be healthier. It's sad really.

Cat pee....eww...VERY bad! frown

 

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #2 Jul 12, 2010 3:51 PM
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Really, really well written article - thank you for taking the time to compose it.

And please, update us all with how you like the mattress after a week or so!

 

Thanks.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #3 Jul 12, 2010 4:12 PM
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Very well written article, thanks.  The only quibble (if it could be called a quibble) is the way people keep promoting the Costco latex bed, made in China out of who knows what (I suspect fillers, but no data to back that up).  I keep wondering why people don't try the Sam's Club latex bed, with Dunlop latex made by Latexco in the US (actually made quite close to you).  The latex looks like a high quality product and the bed and foundation overall look to be head and shoulders better than the Costco bed, with faster shipping too and a liberal return policy.

I'm guessing it may be because there are fewer Sam's Clubs around and fewer members? Not sure.  I was going to get one myself when I switched gears and bought the Sleepez.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #4 Jul 12, 2010 4:57 PM
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Thanks for the post Blingo99.   I found it interesting to hear some feedback on this forum about "Foam Sweet Foam" and your positive experience there.  Most folks on this forum seem to go with Flobeds or SleepEZ for online latex purchases.  However, when I decided that I needed another 3 inch topper for my locally purchased latex bed, I also chose "Foam Sweet Foam" and was very happy with their product and service.  I think they have a very fair price for 100% natural LI latex products and mattresses.    I've been sleeping great ever since my purchase.

Please give us some additional feedback after a longer trial period.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #5 Jul 12, 2010 8:35 PM
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moneysworth4us wrote:

 


I enjoyed reading your experience! Thank you for sharing yes

I got a chuckle though about your quote above...do we really "have standards" in this country when it comes to health? Or is it more about the green back and what it will draw in? I think our country is approving more and more things as "safe" when they truly are not. No, I'm not an environmentalist (or a liberal) by any means. I just know for a fact that people, young and old, are being affected by what we sleep on, consume and breathe, on a daily basis...yet nothing seems to be changing for the better....things just cost more to be healthier. It's sad really.

Cat pee....eww...VERY bad! frown

 

 


We do have standards managed by different agencies at both the state and federal level. Here in California the level of oversight and regulation has become ridiculous and places a heavy burden on small businesses. We also place a higher value on public safety. I've been to China and have observed factory operations. There are many with very poor conditions, some good ones, and overall they are improving, but they have not reached the level of concern for consumer safety that we have. If we are motivated by the dollar, they are even more so. Poisoned baby milk being one of the most recent and horrific examples.


Glad you enjoyed the read.

 
Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #6 Jul 13, 2010 1:41 AM
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Should have included this in the orginal post:

I'm 220lbs. the wife is 125lbs. The mattress layers (bottom up) are Extra Firm, Firm, Medium. Seems to be the right combo so far.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #7 Jul 13, 2010 1:57 AM
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blingo99 wrote:

Should have included this in the orginal post:

I'm 220lbs. the wife is 125lbs. The mattress layers (bottom up) are Extra Firm, Firm, Medium. Seems to be the right combo so far.


What are you using as foundation for this latex?

And what firmness level do like to sleep on usually?

Thanks.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #8 Jul 13, 2010 10:28 AM
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On synthetic vs. 100% natural:  at least one poster here compared the 2 and found that the 100% natural has higher density (and probably resiliency), so it gave better support.  So, I think there might be some benefit to the 100% natural.   Still, I think the blended product from Latex International is pretty good.

 

On the cover: many have found that having some wool over the latex can make it sleep a bit cooler.   I am one of those.  So, paying for a mattress cover made of cotton and wool that helps protect the latex from the elements, helps hold it together, and helps one sleep cooler is probably worth $200-300 for most.  Probably a simple (and washable) cotton mattress pad over that would be sufficient.  Personally I use a washable wool filled mattress pad for additional breathability and moisture absorbtion.

I looked at the linked article on the cost of an automobile.  I think that you are right that most people only look at one factor - the gas mileage and forget the environomental impact of making and disposing of the battery (or for solar panels for that matter).  I do have to question their calculations.  They estimate the energy cost of a Prius at $3.25/mile over the 100,000 mile life.   That would be a total energy cost of $325,000 for 100,000 miles.   Now I know you can probably buy the Prius and enough gas to go 100,000 miles for a total $40,000 or less.  So, who is paying for all of that additional energy cost? It can't be Toyota or they would be losing a fortune on every Prius.  Maybe there are some additional costs like maintenance and disposal, but they can't add up to several hundred thousand dollars.  So, I question their calcuations, but I have not studied their methodology in depth.

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Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #9 Jul 13, 2010 11:56 AM
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roy1 wrote:

 


What are you using as foundation for this latex?

And what firmness level do like to sleep on usually?

Thanks.


No foundation, we have a slat platform bed and I placed it directly on the slats. I read on one of the retailer's site that slats were fine as long as the span between slats did not exceed 3". Another option is to lay 3/4" plywood and drill vent holes in it.

 

I usually like medium-soft and the wife likes medium firm. The FSF is a little firmer than our usual but also seems soft enough. Consider that if you keep a mattress for 20-30 years your support needs will change. So eventually you may want to adjust a layer even if the feel is right today.

Re: My Experience Buying A Latex Mattress
Reply #10 Jul 13, 2010 12:07 PM
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sandman wrote:

On synthetic vs. 100% natural:  at least one poster here compared the 2 and found that the 100% natural has higher density (and probably resiliency), so it gave better support.  So, I think there might be some benefit to the 100% natural.   Still, I think the blended product from Latex International is pretty good.

 

 

On the cover: many have found that having some wool over the latex can make it sleep a bit cooler.   I am one of those.  So, paying for a mattress cover made of cotton and wool that helps protect the latex from the elements, helps hold it together, and helps one sleep cooler is probably worth $200-300 for most.  Probably a simple (and washable) cotton mattress pad over that would be sufficient.  Personally I use a washable wool filled mattress pad for additional breathability and moisture absorbtion.

I looked at the linked article on the cost of an automobile.  I think that you are right that most people only look at one factor - the gas mileage and forget the environomental impact of making and disposing of the battery (or for solar panels for that matter).  I do have to question their calculations.  They estimate the energy cost of a Prius at $3.25/mile over the 100,000 mile life.   That would be a total energy cost of $325,000 for 100,000 miles.   Now I know you can probably buy the Prius and enough gas to go 100,000 miles for a total $40,000 or less.  So, who is paying for all of that additional energy cost? It can't be Toyota or they would be losing a fortune on every Prius.  Maybe there are some additional costs like maintenance and disposal, but they can't add up to several hundred thousand dollars.  So, I question their calcuations, but I have not studied their methodology in depth.

Yep, hard to tell who has an agenda besides the truth when reading those things. The main point for me is that we often make decisions such as what is green and how important that is to us on less than complete data.  

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