Mattress Forum

At least you know...

Looking forward to your photos...

Here is the mattress before surgery:

My assistant holding back the very thin layers. Underneath the grey material is just covering the springs:

I don't know if you can see it as clearly as I did, but there is definate sag to the springs in the middle:

My temporary fix. It's been working, but don't know how long it will last:

This must be a really FIRM mattress or else they'd have put more foam in it.

Isn't it just AMAZING how cheap and low-density the foam they use is?

Thanks for posting the pix!

Hey Q119 correct me if I'm wrong, on this picture above, are those blankets on the middle laying on top of the box spring;In other words what's below the red sheet?the box spring or part of the mattress? The reason why I'm asking is because I plan on doing the same thing.I go to bed with my back doing fine and then when I wake up I have discomfort in my back. So I guess this is a good idea like they suggested me on another post.Now that I see the pictures you posted, I understand how it is done.How thick does it have to be when you place on top of each other  all the blankets? Thanks for the post and the pictures!
 

eliwwjd: This is right on top of the boxsprings. The red covering is the bedskirt. I just played around with it until the mattress was fairly level. It's not perfect, but better.

This is how my problem is now, and I have new, high-gauge springs, so it's likely NOT the springs. I wonder if my box springs might be the problem. I am thinking of throwing them out and putting my mattress right on the floor, maybe that would solve the problem. Also I have allergies to dust and I'm pretty sure my box springs is full of them, maybe my mattress too, though less so I would think since it's only 4-5 months old, whereas the box springs are about 5 years (?) old.

My back feels fine when I go to bed, it feels okay when going to sleep, but then hurts after about 4-6 hours of being on my mattress, then when I wake up I'm sore and stiff. Sometimes it's mid-back and sometimes it's lower back.

I've been adjusting my mattress every 3 days or so because I feel it is a configuration problem not my back itself. I'm about ready to look at a water bed! Years ago I slept on one and it was very good...
 

Q119, that amount of foam really isn't that bad; the problem is the Quality of the foam they used.

I am currently using only 2" of foam on top of my springs, but 1 and 3/4" of it is latex. I am not saying this is the best configuration for me or anyone, however, I have at times found that less is more so to speak.

You are right about padding from underneath...it works pretty well.  I would have thought to put it on top of the mattress, but my bedmaker said to put it on top of the box springs to make a difference.  He was right.

Kait

Even though you shore up the boxspring.... isn't there enough thickness to the mattress, that  it will still sag ?? I understand you are leveling out the boxspring, but then, what about the mattress ? Thesse are great photo's.

It is rare when the source of mattress sag is the innerspring unit inside the mattress. Over the years I have cut open  ten mattresses  that were used for ten plus years. Nine of  the innerspring units were still like new. One had a 3/4" sag, from a low end Bonnell coil mattress.

The rest of the sag is from  the low density foam, which loses 30-40% of its original height and a similar percentage of its original firmness, under the areas where most of your body weight is focused.

Thanks. I thought the sag came from the foam only.   INteresting about the boxspring too. dang, my parents 25 year old mattress feels better to me than the last 3 mattresss I have put out the HUGE bucks for.   What a ripp.....

Loved your photo's and surgery.

Does your frame have a center support? If it does use a string and pull it tightly across the frame from side to side see if the frames center support is dipping in the middle. If it does the problem started with the frame or possibly with a thick carpet under the frame. If you have very thick carpet it could be that your carpet has compressed more under the center support than under the side rails of the frame.

Next put your box spring on a floor that is perfectly flat, see if your boxspring still sags or rocks from side to side. If it does you need to throw the box-spring away. My recommendation is to build a solid flat platform type of foundation no matter what since they will provide the best support for your mattress. Make sure that the foundation is 'SOLID" with no give or flex anywhere!

That should help your problem. It could still be that your srpings have a slight sag from sitting on top of faulty frame or box-spring. But most of the problem should be solved.

Hope that helps!

It is a full bed, so no middle support.   I put some plywood in between today, so will see how that works tonight. 

Unfortunately, I live in a small studio, so don't really have room to put my mattress on the floor. I have laid a yardstick across the center and there is about a half inch depression without me in it.  I have a 1 and 1/2 inch topper of latex from latex international on that may be adding to the dip. I bought it when I had the Englander latex mattress  (donlop) that  turned into a brick a few years ago.... after a couple thousand, I couldn't wait to get rid of it.  the topper didn't help. It is probably around 19 ILD ..... too soft.

I just don't have any money right now to buy anything new.  When I do, I am gong to buy the cheapest s brand, firm and put toppers on it...... I spent another 800.oo for a sealy Post. after that which lasted about 2 years without a dip.....  why not just buy cheap cheap, and when the dip happens  buy another cheap.

whoever tries to stick up for the mattress industry.... sorry.... I think it is a crime !!!

Buy a solid wood foundation! Put in a few slats on your frame and make legs under each slat in the middle to support it.

Good luck!