| This is made by Latex International, sold at Sam's Club. I just was googling all Natural latex and found this. Anyone? Click here. |
| This is the natural, click here, the posting above is apparently the blended. What do you think? |
| This is a lot more expensive than the one at Costco. |
| The cover itself would probably be responsible for almost all the price difference. Wool and Organic Cotton Cover > Polyester cover....but yeah the core itself sounds similar. |
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Looks like a real bargain, especially in the larger sizes! Is it firmer than the Costco mattress? This message was modified Apr 3, 2010 by luke
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The first latex link is blended I believe, and is made by "Latex International" that alone is a good thing. The second link is as Budgy said, it is organic wool, and cotton. It is natural latex, it is zoned also. Nobody here (that I know of) has bought a zoned latex bed. They both are made in USA, the Natural Latex is organic and made in USA (however it doesn't say Latex International). I sent emails with questions to the manufacturer.
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| Someone already asked about this click here and I missed it then. |
| Leo, did you find out where the latex for the 100% natural is sourced? Is it Dunlop or Talalay? LI or another manufacturer? |
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KimberlyH wrote: Leo, did you find out where the latex for the 100% natural is sourced? Is it Dunlop or Talalay? LI or another manufacturer? I haven't heard back on my emails yet. This message was modified Apr 5, 2010 by Leo3
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Just thought I should post the email reply here: This is for the |
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I would write back and ask specifically whether it is Dunlop or Talalay processed latex because in my experience it makes a HUGE difference. If my Dunlop layer from SleepEZ was labeled correctly (and I think it is), then a 32ILD Dunlop natural feels more like a 36-38ILD Talalay natural. So, I think that the ILD's they give, if it's Dunlop would be firm enough. In fact you might need to put a super soft Talalay layer on top if that is the case. However, it does look like a very good price with shipping included. Almost makes me want to try one. Do they have the same easy return and refund policy that CostCo does? If so, I would say, go for it. |
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Good eye Jim! I never thought about that, sometimes they say natural and it could be Dunlop instead of Talalay. I will email them back. Thanks.
jimsocal wrote: I would write back and ask specifically whether it is Dunlop or Talalay processed latex because in my experience it makes a HUGE difference. This message was modified Apr 9, 2010 by Leo3
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jimsocal wrote: I would write back and ask specifically whether it is Dunlop or Talalay processed latex because in my experience it makes a HUGE difference. If my Dunlop layer from SleepEZ was labeled correctly (and I think it is), then a 32ILD Dunlop natural feels more like a 36-38ILD Talalay natural. So, I think that the ILD's they give, if it's Dunlop would be firm enough. In fact you might need to put a super soft Talalay layer on top if that is the case. However, it does look like a very good price with shipping included. Almost makes me want to try one. Do they have the same easy return and refund policy that CostCo does? If so, I would say, go for it. This message was modified Apr 10, 2010 by KimberlyH
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KimberlyH wrote: But I did learn I will not buy the LI Green model because it is only 3" latex, underneath is Reflex? It doesn't pay to get in a hurry, and it does pay to over research, LOL. "Progressive support mid and substrate layers consist of Reflex® high density, high resilience (HR" wouldn't you say this wasn't latex? Yes, you are correct Kimberly the Latexco is Dunlop and Jim is correct that since it is Dunlop the ILD are probably okay then. Well now isn't this all confusing This message was modified Apr 10, 2010 by Leo3
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Okay, I didn't catch that about the other latex bed (the blended one). That makes the decision a lot easier. When I compare the Costco mattress to the Sam's Club 100% latex mattress, to my thinking, even though it's about $250 more, it's a much better value on two fronts: 1) It's made in the US and not from suspicously sourced latex (meaning that we don't know where/how the latex is manufactured) 2) It has a much better cover, organic cotton and wool (not that I'm an organic freak, but the top is a knit cotton and wool, which is better than the Costco mattress and will be MUCH more likely to dissipate any heat build up) 3) It's a full twin size, whereas the Costco model is short an inch. 4) It looks like the foundation is much higher quality than the Costco foundation. Okay, that's 4 things not two. Anyway, I'm personally convinced the Sam's Club model is better. |
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Internet search shows that this mattress is made by Innomax. They call it: WHITE NIGHT PREMIUM ORGANIC NATURAL LATEX MATTRESS http://www.innomax.com/index.php?crn=238&action=show&show_products_mode=cat_click It is a part of they Natural Reserve collection. The company has been around for 30+ years, but I have a difficulty locating reliable user reviews of this product. Unfortunately, the only locations where one can see their products on display are in Colorado (Denver, Ft. Collins, Colorado Springs). It would be interesting to get more first-hand accounts of using this product. Only 1 review on Sam's Web site (of king size mattress). |
| Interesting. I went to this website and phoned Innomax. They confirmed that the Dunlop latex is Latexco, and they also quoted me a $1,636 price for a twin (not sure if shipping was included in that). The price on Sam's Club was $1,049 for the twin, with another $260 or so for the foundation . . . shipping included. |
| "The 3\" top layer with Ultra-Form 5-zone" = polyurethane foam with "Two more additional layers of 3\" latex" So NOT 100% latex |
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Marlene wrote: "The 3\" top layer with Ultra-Form 5-zone" = polyurethane foam with "Two more additional layers of 3\" latex" So NOT 100% latex or is this deliberate misinformation on your part? |
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Roy, I don't know whether Marlene's misinformation is "deliberate," but it is misinformation. I replied to her about the issue in this thread: http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/costco-latex-mattress-vs-sams-club-latex-mattress/11296-0-1.html. Specifically: "No Marlene, you are wrong. Sam's Club sells two latex mattresses. One is 100% latex and the other is not. These mattresses are made by Innomax. The American Sleep Organic Mattress sold by Sam's Club is a 100% latex mattress. It is the same as the White Night Premium Organic Sleep System sold by Innomax. The "ultra form" you mention just refers to zoned Dunlop latex. Innomax sources their latex from Latexco, which makes zoned Dunlop latex. The American Sleep Eco-Green Latex Mattress sold by Sam's Club is not 100% latex. It is the same as the Allura Natural Latex Sleep System sold by Innomax."
The links take you to the two latex mattresses sold by Sam's Club, the identical latex mattresses sold under the Innomax label, and to the Latexco web site, where you can read about their zoned Dunlop latex. This message was modified Sep 28, 2010 by KimberlyH
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KimberlyH wrote:
Roy, I don't know whether Marlene's misinformation is "deliberate," but it is misinformation. I replied to her about the issue in this thread:
http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/costco-latex-mattress-vs-sams-club-latex-mattress/11296-0-1.html. Specifically: "No Marlene, you are wrong. Sam's Club sells two latex mattresses. One is 100% latex and the other is not. These mattresses are made by Innomax. The American Sleep Organic Mattress sold by Sam's Club is a 100% latex mattress. It is the same as the White Night Premium Organic Sleep System sold by Innomax. The "ultra form" you mention just refers to zoned Dunlop latex. Innomax sources their latex from Latexco, which makes zoned Dunlop latex. The American Sleep Eco-Green Latex Mattress sold by Sam's Club is not 100% latex. It is the same as the Allura Natural Latex Sleep System sold by Innomax."
The links take you to the two latex mattresses sold by Sam's Club, the identical latex mattresses sold under the Innomax label, and to the Latexco web site, where you can read about their zoned Dunlop latex. This message was modified Sep 29, 2010 by roy1
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| Go to the links for each mattress and read the descriptions. They are identical. |
| I meant to say that they are not identical. If you read the measurements/thickness of layers. The first layer on Sams club is different then the first layer on the other mattress that you say is identical. |