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Hi all, I've been reading this forum since about 4:30 am (which is the time I wake up and start fighting the sagging hole in the center of my King Coil Eurotop - yuck. I see that a lot of you are going towards latex and some towards memory foam. I'm afraid to make the jumpt to "the dark side" but what do you think of this Sleep Science Celeste bed from Costco? http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?whse=bc&Ne=4000000&eCat=bc|93|1924|78455|67414&N=4034765&pos=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=67414&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&ec=BC-EC25093-Cat78455&topnav= Is there anywhere I can get one for that cheap that's as good or even better where there's not 4-6week delivery? One last question: I may stay with inner spring beds, and know that I want to go firm and build upon it if necessary rather than get one with all this cheap padding that sags. I've learned about heavy coil gauge and don't know if should go with latex or visco on top. I found a SpringAir for $999 (queen set) at a small retailer here in Boston which is 980 coil count with 2.5" of visco on top. What do you think of that, even though SpringAir supposedly sucks? I'm 44, have a major problem with sleeping and need a good mattress to help, am a stomach and side sleeper and like a firmer feel. Thank you! |
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The Celeste is a pretty high quality mattress, but very firm. If that is what you want, it might work. It has an all foam base though, so not sure if/when that might break down. Great return policy at Costco. It will probably take less than the 4-6 weeks for delivery - I think I got mine in about 2 weeks. Might depend on where you live. I returned it because it was too firm and thick for my taste. I would avoid Spring Air since you will probably end up the same sitution you are in now. There is probably junky foam below the visco, and if the visco is not quality it might be too soft as well. You cheapest option might be to cut the top of off your current mattress and put in a few inches of latex and maybe 1-2" of memory foam. I have a Sealy that I have done that to. Not as scary or hard to do as you might think. I added 2" of 32 ILD talalay latex, 1" of 24 ILD talalay, and 1" of memory foam. Of course, another good option is to buy a customizable latex from Flobeds, sleepez, foamsweetfoam, etc. That will cost more that modifying your current mattress. How old is your King Coil? The sagging is most likely from the Eurotop foam caving in and not the springs. |
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If you've been reading this forum like you say, then you already know that the general opinion of all "S" brand mattresses is pretty low here. I've tried the Spring Air mattress line. Wonderfully comfortable in the store, and I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up with another mattress with a giant sag in it if you bought it. The Spring Air mattress line is not 100% latex. There's a latex layer on top of the cheap PU foam that got you into the mess you have with your current mattress. My general take on this is - if you're going to try latex, buy a 100% latex bed from a reputable company like: Flobeds, Sleepez, Saavy Rest. Make sure there is a 100% return policy if you don't like the bed. A better deal is to buy from a company that will allow you to exchange latex layers to get just the firmness that is right for your height and weight. If you're going to try memory foam, expect the memory foam to sleep hot and perhaps break down. Tempurpedic makes the best memory foam, and they have prices to match. But, they do have a 90 day return policy. |
| I can't vouch for Tempur-pedic, but the memory foam I got from Costco did not work for me, mainly because of how hot it gets. I don't how well latex does on this count. |
| Did you read some of the Highlighted threads at the top? |
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Thanks, Folks. Once comment about this site: It's impossible for me to find the threads i posted, even if I log in and look at my profile. There's not option there to "find all posts by this person" or anything. I had to remember the words from my posting and then "search" for them just to find this thread again! Anyway, it seems my best bet to prevent sagging is to go with latex. After reading this site, I refuse to buy another S brand or anything else at the typical stores today, as they're all crap. Does anyont know where i can find a STORE in the Boston or MA area who makes mattresses well? I don't want to deal with online stuff for various reasons. Thanks! |
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As far as I'm concerned, you can't beat "Gardner Mattress" in the Boston area. I got my latex mattress from them and they also have many spring models which are all handmade at their factory in Salem, MA (NOT Gardner, MA). TIP....go to the store in Salem, MA and not one of the other factory outlets. The pricing is a little better in Salem, and you can often "deal" with the owner of the business there. Check them out at: www.gardnermattress.com This message was modified Mar 10, 2010 by markbnh1
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lookingnow wrote: Thanks, Folks. Once comment about this site: It's impossible for me to find the threads i posted, even if I log in and look at my profile. There's not option there to "find all posts by this person" or anything. I had to remember the words from my posting and then "search" for them just to find this thread again! Anyway, it seems my best bet to prevent sagging is to go with latex. After reading this site, I refuse to buy another S brand or anything else at the typical stores today, as they're all crap. Does anyont know where i can find a STORE in the Boston or MA area who makes mattresses well? I don't want to deal with online stuff for various reasons. Thanks! Isn't that where Latex International is? Near MA area? There should be latex sold there. Go to Latex International's website and there is a page that shows who sells their latex. Gardner is listed as one. But those mattress do not have zippers that you can change out your layers. That could be very important to have that feature. |
| Agreed, you can't change out the layers in a Gardner mattress. BUT, they also have many other innerspring mattresses that are very well made (including one with a latex pillow top). Plus, you can try out several latex matresses to see what the LI latex feels like. I was also reluctant to order a latex matress online, but in handsight, wish that I had! I ended up buying another 3 inch layer online to add to the top of my Gardner latex mattress, but now I have a nice setup for a good price overall. |
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I think you should re-consider ordering online. Unless you have no atm or credit card to do so, there is really no good reason not to. It's completely safe nowadays. Also, I am almost positive if you order from Flobeds or SleepEZ you can order on the phone. In fact I recommend doing so because then you can talk to the experts there who can help you decide what firmness and configuration is best for you. If the local company mentioned makes good spring mattresses without much pu or poly foam in them, that might well be a good choice. However, how is their exchange/return policy? If they have a good exchange or return policy and make good mattresses with quality materials I would look at that. Also, the CostCo Emma or whatever it's called sounds like a winner and they have a great return policy so that might work for you as well. For the most part I believe in avoiding memory foam in thicknesses more than just 1" or, maximum 2" at or near the top of your mattress. Anything more than that, you're going to end up with lower back pain from a lack of support after it breaks down. |
| Thanks, folks! This all really helps. I've learned so much and REFUSE to get foiled again by cheaply made mattresses with PU Foam! I am going to check out Gardner Mattress in Salem and also consider buying online. Thank goodness for the info on the web! You've all helped me a lot. I'll post an update. |
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For my money you can't beat FloBeds. Order by phone and talk to either Dave Turner, the father, or Dewey the son, and talk to the people who own the company that has been in business for over 30 years. They have an excelent BBB record, and many satified custermers on this forum. I purchased a king-size all natural latex mattress from them back in September. I could not be happier. You can go to the thread I started entitled "Just bought a new FloBeds" it is quite extensive and if you want to read it all,( unless they have changed this feature with their new redo of his website) and hit the "ALL". I believe it is over 180 posts by now. They have the best exchange and return policy on the Internet that I'm aware.
Good luck with your purchase. This message was modified Mar 13, 2010 by eagle2
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