new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Aug 22, 2010 8:48 AM
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Points: 3
Hello,

I've had a recurring problem with mattresses throughout my life.  In particular, they seem to sink in about a quarter of the way down my spine, and cause back pain and discomfort.  This has affected my posture and quality of sleep, and now I've got a vertebra that protrudes slightly in that area.  I'm looking for a mattress that is least prone to this problem.

Of course, the mattresses I've encountred don't sink in immediately, but it only takes about 1.5 - 2 years for this to happen (I flip and rotate them too; plywood doesn't remedy the problem).  This may be a result of buying mattresses locally and getting ripped off, but I've never really payed attention to the problem until now.

Is the solution a firmer mattress?  Will that be less prone to sinking in?  I really don't have any knowledge of mattresses and I don't trust local merchants, so I'm hoping someone knowledgeable in mattresses can help me out.

Thanks

Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #1 Aug 22, 2010 9:37 AM
Joined: Aug 21, 2009
Points: 486
Four words: Very firm 100% latex.

Read through the forums.  The major "S" brand mattress companies use cheap PU foam in mattresses these days.  It breaks down in very short order, leaving you with a crater in your mattress.

A very firm memory foam (Tempurpedic) or latex mattress will be a huge improvement.  Go to www.flobeds.com and www.sleepez.com to get started reading about latex.

Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #2 Aug 22, 2010 10:04 AM
Joined: Apr 21, 2010
Points: 58
Just want to add that latex is not for everybody. some love it and some do not. I have major spine issues and must have an innerspring base. If you are a person who needs that, look into the companies that use the holland maid coil system, the best offset coil system out there. very high coil count, great support. On the East coast it is used by Beckley, Shifman and in the gold bond innerspring mattresses. steel gauge is 12.5 or 12.75, ie very strong. You can also get that gauge in the Stearns and Foster top of the line limited edition mattresses, but they are only made in queen and king sizes. the last option to get this gauge is king koil extended life line of mattresses, made for heavier people. Once you have that base, you can add a top layer of memory foam or latex with or without a lambswool layer for temperature comfort. or a featherbed, which is my personal choice. You may very well be happy with a firm latex mattress, but some of us with back issues find that we need more support than that offers
Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #3 Aug 22, 2010 2:51 PM
Joined: Dec 11, 2009
Points: 113
Search latex topper 1" on this forum.  You will find many posts including mine.

Latex and Polyurethane foams are your only choices for non-moulding (memory foam moulds to your body) comfort layer.  And poly collapses and breaks down in a short period of time.

What we are all doing here... even if it takes years.. is to find the latex combo that works.. and once we do, it will last a long, long time.

There are several latex suppliers.  Foambymail.com has the least expensive latex.  Buy queen in 1" thicknesses...fold it to try 2", etc.  Or buy a twin..... if you lke it, buy a second.... trim to 30" wide and lay side by side.  You will never  know it is two separate pieces.  Nor is there any problem whatsoever in stacked pieces.

Gotta run, good luck.

shovel99

Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #4 Aug 22, 2010 6:50 PM
Joined: Oct 15, 2009
Points: 966
You don't really describe your current mattress, so it is a bit hard to tell.  The most likely cause is cheap foam built into the top layers of the mattress.  If you do much research in this forum, you will learn that most of the main manafactures use cheap foam now a days, that does not last.  If that is the case, there would be several possible areas to explore.   You can buy an expensive mattress that only uses high quality materials (coils, latex, wool, cotton, maybe a little memory foam - check out the Royal Pedic website for example).  You might like one of the firmer Tempurpedics.  Or you may want to go with an all latex mattress.  The best route for latex is one that you can customize to your desired firmness:  perhaps Sleepez or Flobeds.   Cheaper would be the all latex from Costco, but if that is too soft there will be not much you can do to make it firmer.

One last option is to cut the top off your current innerspring and take out the cheap foam and put in a few inches of quality latex and possibly and inch or 2 or high density memory foam.  Latex holds up relatively well over time, and you would be able to customize to your desired firmness (with some trial and error).   That would be your cheapest option, especially if your want an innerspring feel and your current springs (and box spring) are still okay (probably if only a couple years old).  That is the combination I currently use.

Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #5 Aug 27, 2010 9:51 AM
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Points: 3
I'm looking at the prices, and it seems that for any good latex mattress, I'm going to need to spend at least $1000.  There is one $500 one on overstock, but it only has 2" of latex: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/E.C.O.-10-inch-Latex-Twin-XL-Firm-Mattress/3485890/product.html

On the other hand, there is the "7000 mattress" from here http://www.sleepez.com/latex-mattresses.htm , which is $700 with free shipping.  Can anyone recommend that?

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Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #6 Aug 27, 2010 9:58 AM
Location: NE Ohio / NW Pennsylvania
Joined: Aug 26, 2010
Points: 62
olenska wrote:

Just want to add that latex is not for everybody. some love it and some do not. I have major spine issues and must have an innerspring base. If you are a person who needs that, look into the companies that use the holland maid coil system, the best offset coil system out there. very high coil count, great support. On the East coast it is used by Beckley, Shifman and in the gold bond innerspring mattresses. steel gauge is 12.5 or 12.75, ie very strong. You can also get that gauge in the Stearns and Foster top of the line limited edition mattresses, but they are only made in queen and king sizes. the last option to get this gauge is king koil extended life line of mattresses, made for heavier people. Once you have that base, you can add a top layer of memory foam or latex with or without a lambswool layer for temperature comfort. or a featherbed, which is my personal choice. You may very well be happy with a firm latex mattress, but some of us with back issues find that we need more support than that offers

King Koil, huh.   I have a store here that carries that brand.  I'd bet they don't have that extended life mattress in stock, though. 

Re: new - Looking for mattress that doesn't sink in
Reply #7 Aug 30, 2010 10:37 PM
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Points: 3
Well, if no one has any thoughts on the two mattresses linked to in my previous post, then how much should I expect to spend for a twin xl?

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