Has anyone tried the new model yet? I plan to test it out tomorrow. Relax the back has them exclusively for a month I believe. I'm 6' 210lb. and did not think the cloud supreme was going to offer enough support. However, the cloud luxe is a thicker mattress and actually has a layer of hd-tempur underneath. I'm currently considering the Rhapsody and Allura. This message was modified Sep 6, 2010 by Brad_G
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This looks like an interesting bed. Have you tried it yet? I had a Cloud Supreme before I bought my Rhapsody, and it was great for my shoulders but not enough support for my hips and lower back so I was waking up with back pain. It sounds like this new Cloud Luxe might be the answer to this problem. Too late for me though, as I already bought the Rhapsody. Wish I'd have known they were coming out with the Luxe, then I'd have waited until I could compare it to the Rhapsody. This message was modified Sep 10, 2010 by tnpd
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hi brad, i had a long talk with a great guy from tempurpedic about this. i now own a deluxe which i have had for six years and still going strong. i am crazy about it. but i stopped in a store just to check out new models and i could not believe the new ones. wow. i could not decide between the cloud luxe and the allura. very very different in feel. i loved the cloud luxe but it was soft. and i just loved it. the allura was firm. and unbelievably almost zen like in it calm steady support. the guy at tempurpedic strongly recommended the allura to me personally given my back issues. he said that over time the luxe might actually start to hurt me because it is so much softer. he said the allura would do wonders in supporting my shoulders and hips. and he said in time it would really pay off for me. so i am passing this on to you. the allura, to me, anyway, seemed like it had a hugely substantial support system that would last for years. it was like no other tempurpedic i have ever been on. one mattress store guy who is in his thirties had two hip replacements, even at his age. he was young and vital looking and hard to believe he had so much trouble. he swore up and down about how the allura was a godsend to him. even thought my deluxe is fantastic. i love it. and i have had no back issues with it even as it has softened a little in the past six years, i am strongly drawn to the new allura. it is right under the grand bed in terms of quality. please really give this bed a chance.
all that being said, i have something else i want to add. these beds are radically different from regular beds. there is definitely a break in and adjustment period. my deluxe took me a full month. i hated it during that time. it hurt me. i met someone online that kept encouraging me to hang in there. so i did. and it was the best thing i ever did. that bed has been the greatest bed i have ever had. but please just because you are having trouble for the first few weeks.....four or more, try not to give up. yes, if there are heat issues for some of you, then that might be a definitely deal breaker. i know it wasn't an issue for me. i did have a celebrity and returned it immediately. i hated it. i sunk way way way into it too much. it was hot. i hated everything about it. but the deluxe was the most wonderful bed once i got used to it. just a tad bit of advice from a tempurpedic owner. that allura is luring me though. good luck to everybody. remember , it is very important to chose the right tempurpedic for you. and there is one. these beds are like nothing else. i mean nothing. give them a chance. visit your local stores and keep revisiting them over and over until you land it. hope this helps. |
Did you ever try any of the other HD memory foam mattresses (such as the 8 lb Foamex venus) and have a chance to compare it with the Tempurpedics? It would be really interesting to hear a comparison if you had the chance :) Phoenix |
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Years ago, before I bought the Deluxe Tempurpedic, I bought a Sealy latex model. I actually was very influenced by this forum at the time. I don't even remember the name of it though. Either the Newport or the Venice Beach. Anyway, I actually bought it. And, for me, personally, it was very painful and difficult for me to get used to. So I actually bit the bullet and bought the Tempurpedic Deluxe, which, at the time, was not well received on this forum. I can see that now, things have changed. and I see lots of posts about the Tempurpedic. I met a great guy on here who actually sells Tempurpedics. I was in touch with him because I was having a very hard time with it at first. Here are two of the comments he sent me. I actually just found them: "Data has shown that if you are not used to a bed within 4 weeks, its not going to happen. This is why I urge you to give it a fair shake. And yes, my wife and I did not like the bed for 3 weeks. I wouldn't trade it for anything now!!" "But, once again you must and I stress this, keep the bed for at least 30 nights. I sell more Tempurpedics than anyone in our organization and I bet I get complaint calls on at least half of them after only 3 or 4 nights after delivery. I have only comfort exchanged 2 this entire year!! You have about a 90% chance of getting use to it..believe me. You may be one that doesn't like the bed, but give it a fair trial period." Personally, I will never ever sleep on anything but a Tempurpedic mattress again. Of course, that is just me. And I am sure there are many wonderful mattresses for all kinds of people. But this is my feeling and my feeling only. I am glad to see that Tempurpedics are now taken much more seriously on this forum. They used to be laughed at and put down and basically disregarded. I see that has finally changed, and well to the good. Yes, it is not for everybody. Of course, that is true. But I bet you , if you research it well, and really put your mind to it, and give it a big chance, I think it may surprise many of you how unbelievable this mattress is. That being said, I think the Cloud series is very very tricky. It is the softest. And, in the store, by far the most comfortable. I mean it is pure heaven laying on it. I think the Cloud Deluxe is beyond words. However, I caution you, it is only for certain body types. If you have severe back pain, like I do, I am not saying it won't be perfect for you, it might be, but try it out a million times first. I tend to lean now towards the Allura, which seems very firm when laying on it in the store. But it feels very zenlike and substantial to me. It has a deep support level that really may pay off for me personally. And seems like it will hold up forever. I would be very careful about just buying out of impulse with these mattresses. Visit them several times I think. The Rhapsody is right up there with the Allura. The Deluxe is still great as far as I am concerned. I do not need a new mattress again. I am just tempted to upgrade because they definitely have come a long way in six years. But I guess that is always going to happen. I just feel that Tempurpedic is in a class by itself. A real love/hate response from the public. I do think some of that is having to give up the psychological component of what a real bed is and what it is like to get "into bed." And then the heat issue thing. And then the soft vs hard etc. I am not saying it is easy to buy one. But, for me, it is not easy to buy any bed. I am one person, that absolutely cannot stand latex. That's just me. I tried it and did not like it. But for some of you, I am sure it is perfect and the only way to go. We all know there is no such thing as the perfect mattress for everybody. I am just cautioning you, when you read these reviews, read them and take them in....yes...but don't make them gospel. Why do I say that? Because that is what I did with the latex Sealy. And it was a huge mistake for me. Instead, listen to yourself. Listen to your own body. Listen to your intuition and your instinct. No matter what you read on here. If you feel deeply that a certain mattress speaks to you and then someone on here does not like it, pay attention to that, but still trust yourself. And whatever you buy, give it as big a chance as you can to get used to it. That is what I learned. Listen to that mattress guy. Absolutely no less than four weeks. For some of us, it seems our bodies really have to be retrained and readjusted. Mine is one of those bodies. Some of you will adapt much much more quickly.
I am just glad I met that Tempurpedic salesman online in this forum. He said he took so much heat on the forum that he left. But he said, that if he really helped just one person he would be glad he put in the effort. I was that person, and I am so grateful to him, I can never express it. Jeff, if you are reading this.....please know what a gift you gave me. It has been a miracle in my life. I never ever wake up with back pain again in the six years I got used to my Deluxe. I guess that is why I am looking at the Allura. But I am afraid to monkey with the Deluxe since it has been such a winner for me. And has years and years to go yet.
That Allura allures me....it calls out to me......we'll see. Good luck everyone on whatever bed you have fallen in love with. I know this is one of the toughest decisions ever. It took me two years to finally decide. I wish you all well in your decisions. I only hope that your mattress is what you have hoped for. Thanks. |
Nice post! I can tell that you're one of the "I love Tempurpedic" camp :) I'm curious though, if you found a memory foam mattress that provided the same benefit, feel, and durability with different memory foam, would you feel the same or is it Tempur-pedic itself. That's why I was curious about whether you had tried any others of similar quality, density, and construction. As you know from your previous stint here, there are a lot of people here who use memory foam in their mattress construction and they are always trying to gain insight into the unique qualities of each different type of foam and anyone who has compared them directly (rather than just generically) would have some really valuable information to contribute. My own thoughts are (and bear in mind that I do like the feel of certain latex/memory foam combinations but in general I'm not a memory foam "fan") that Tempur was at one time the only way to really know what you were buying and because they were so widely available and had a consistent predictable feel, they were a "safe" memory foam option in spite of their much higher price. Now though, they are not the only high quality memory foam option available and yet they remain among the most expensive. Do you believe they would be worth their premium price if there really was other equally high quality memory foams with a similar feel at a lower price? Phoenix This message was modified Dec 5, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix, I like your posts. they are informative and interesting and very intelligent. Your interest lies in an area that is not mine however.
Your questions are so subjective and hypothetical I do not know how to reply. In truth, I got my bed six years ago, and never have visited this forum since that time. I have not been in the market for a mattress so I am ignorant about all that has happened in terms of memory foam etc. So I am not a good person to ask these things about. I recently decided to order an advanced Ergo system. And that got me looking in a store to check out new Tempurpedics. I landed on that Allura which, to me is well worth the money. But that is because I know what the Tempurpedic has done for me in my life. And I think that Allura is very very special. I don't know about cheaper and would i buy. I can't answer that. I have not seen any of the beds you are referring to. So I am ignorant on that subject. What I know about is Tempurpedic. and I am in now proudly in that camp, true. You nailed me there. But I haven't investigated other memory foam beds. So I can't comment. I love my Deluxe and the Allura caught my eye. But i do not have that much to add to that particular discussion you are referring to. Simply because I am not that interested in other memory foam beds. I definitely will keep my Deluxe forever. Or I might investigate this Allura, because it really spoke to me personally. I now have a big history with Tempurpedic. And brand loyalty is a well known commodity. I have grown to trust Tempurpedic. so that definitely plays a part now. If you had asked me before I bought my Deluxe, it would have been a whole different story. But now I trust Tempurpedic so much, it would take a lot for me to buy memory foam from someone else. Unless it was proven to be better and cheaper. Right now, I have not heard of any. But that's only because, as I said, I have not been looking or have had any interest in that since I got my bed. Sorry I can't be of more help here with that. I am sure there are so me very knowledgeable people here who can comment on that much better than i can. thanks for asking though. i appreciate that. This message was modified Dec 5, 2010 by everyman
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Wow, what positive affirmations for the Deluxe Tempurpedic from "Everyman". Reassuring since i just purchased one, however, i am having pretty bad low back pain after sleeping on it for only 3 nights. First night was great then back pain started. I understand your recommendation to give it a full 30 days, but isn't this an ominous sign of having low back pain right off the bat or is this part of the adjustment period? I love the feel of the deluxe, very comfortable everywhere but my low back. Do you have any insight on this Everyman?! Thank you! |
ahindt, hang in there. i hated it for four weeks.i was ready to send it back too. but that guy jeff kept saying he and his wife hated it also. he told me to persevere and it was almost like clock work. at the end of 4 weeks it just changed for me and all of a sudden my aches and pains went away. now, of course, i am not a mattress salesman like that guy was. so i do not have any experience with anybody personally, except me and that guy. but he said i'd grow to love it. and i did after four weeks. i know that seems like forever with you. but your body is adjusting to a whole new way of sleeping. and of getting acclimated to the sleep surface. i know it is scary. and i know how you must feel, like this is impossible. but i am telling you i had terrible complaints at first and it is too soon to tell. i know that back pain is the worst thing imaginable. and if you are tempted to send it back, please do so. but i can only tell you that i had terrible pains at first and hated the bed. mistrusted the bed. and thought it was not going to work at all. if i can find some of what i wrote to him i will be glad to post it. i saw his letters to me. but i can't seem to find mine to him. let me see if i can so you can see how badly i felt. but if i can't find them, please know it hurt me tremendously. when he wrote back to hang in there i was skeptical to say the least. but i think i had to keep it at least for thirty days. so i kept doing it. try not to be discouraged. he said three or four days was nothing and you could not tell even in two weeks or three weeks. so try to let his words guide you. he had only two comfort exchanges in an entire year and he sold tons of them. describe where your pains are. talk to me about them. i am interested. and i would love to help you through this. i am no expert, mind you. he at least had tons of experience. but i remember he said he and his wife both did not like it for at least 3 weeks, maybe four. just think, this could turn out to be the best bed you ever slept in. how severe is the pain ahindt? you can private message me here if you want to keep a running dialogue. or just keep it here in the forum. either way, i am here for you. i truly hope this works out for you. i know you absolutely can't see how it will, but i was the exact same way. i remember that. i thought it would be impossible. if that is any help. let me know. write back. thanks. |
OK, THANKS for the encouragement! I will hang in there. I'm afraid the deluxe may be too soft and not offer enough lumbar support(as i feel my hips sinking in too much), but i will give it some more time. I had extremely high hopes for this mattress. Hopefully i will not be disappointed! |
In all honesty, I am not sure that the Deluxe is for you if you feel that way. That does not mean any Tempurpedic would be that way for you. Stay clear of the Clouds. I would seriously look at the Allura and the Rhapsody. Those two beds are very supportive. The guy I talked to yesterday and the guy with the hip replacements who is only 30 years old said the Allura is a godsend to him. He said that the neck and hips would be supported very much more than even my Deluxe. At least check it out in the store and see what you think. I am strongly considering the Allura, even though my Deluxe is fine for me. Let me know what you think about it. I am very interested. The guy emphasized three times how supportive the Allura is for necks and hips and still soft for them. I am going to a store today to try it again. But hang in there with the Deluxe. It worked beautifully for me in about a month. I was hating it up until then. And I almost sent it back several times. |
by the way ahindt, i had to really find the right pillow for it too. that was a huge problem and hurting my back. consider that. i also walked all over the bed. the woman at tempurpedic told me to do that. i don't know if it will make it too soft for you or not. but it helped me. i just know i hated it for four weeks. and lo and behold, he became magical. i firmly believe that there is the right tempurpedic for you. the deluxe may in face be too soft. did you try the allura or rhapsody. or some of the somewhat firmer ones? you should at least familiarize yourself with them. i am so sorry to hear of your back pain.i know how debilitating it can be. i had a simmons beautyrest that aligned me for awhile and then i woke up in pain every single day. i bought a sealy reflexions venice beach latex that almost put me in the hospital. and the deluxe from tempurpedic was a nightmare for me for four weeks. so i do understand how disappointing all this is. but i did have remarkable turnaround in four weeks. i hope that works. if it does not, i strongly suggest you looking into the allura or rhapsody. or i guess you can just return it and get your money back. but i would certainly hang in there for 30 days. you have barely slept on it yet. did you walk on it? to loosen it up? i know what you mean by soft. but it still gives me the support i need. and i have terrible hip and back problems. and make sure you have the right pillow. i absolutely hated hated hated the neck pillows from tempurpedic. they were totally wrong for me. i love the classic or comfort pillow. i forget the name. it is the one that looks like a normal pillow but has a big indentation right in the center of it. that is the pillow i swear by. of course, this is all very subjective for all of us. i am just giving you my experience.
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"Your questions are so subjective and hypothetical I do not know how to reply." In not knowing how to reply you actually did reply :) It's a shame that you didn't have the chance to try other options (for the sake of other forum members) but if I was in your shoes I would probably have the same brand loyalty you did. In a way I do except my brand is more generic (local and regional manufacturers and "do it yourself" constructions) than specific. I think that in many cases brand loyalty is well warranted in the case of a good quality manufacturer as it certainly can save a lot of research and time in making choices and decisions, even if it does cost more. Thank you for your equally open and responsive replies. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 5, 2010 by Phoenix
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Well because TP is so high in cost is why I chose Sealy at the time, unknowing that Sealy was on the way down because of their low quality. Never anymore S brands in my house. The salesman at the time gave me his opinion that Sealy was just as good as TP, and it was comparable to the 5.5 lb memory foam, so he said. This was over 2 years ago now. Also the smell of memory foam will forever turn me off. Not sure if TP smells as bad as Sealy but my guess is it does. But I can fully respect those that like them. If they would list the ILD more clearly at the showroom for each mattress that would help. But I am into build it yourself for now. Like anything reallly works for us problem people, LOL. I am glad for those that are able to use TP and love them. This message was modified Dec 5, 2010 by Leo3
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I've had my Rhapsody for 3 months now, and still love it. I didn't realize how much I loved it until I went away for a few days and slept on a spring mattress and woke up sore every day, and could hardly get comfy so I didn't get much sleep. Ever since I've been back on my Rhapsody, I'm sleeping so good again! Most of the smell is gone from my TP now. There's still a slight smell but not bad. Compared to the memory foam sold at Walmart, which I had a pillow of the same brand that still stinks 5 years later, the TP smell dissipated much faster. I still haven't tried the Cloud Luxe. Next time I'm near a mattress store, I'm going to check it out, just out of curiosity. |
BTW, I haven't had any problems with my TP sleeping hot yet. I usually sleep hot, but even when our temps were 100 degrees outside and my a/c couldn't get the house lower than 84 at night, I didn't sleep any hotter in this bed, which surprised me, as I fully expected to be sweating. Maybe they've gotten better with the heat issue. I did sleep hot on one of their pillows a couple of nights though. |
Hi Ahindt, I was just wondering if you had any updates on your problem for your tempurpedic? I just bought a King TP Cloud Luxe and I thought it was going to be amazing -- it seemed fine in the store and the first night was ok... since then (four nights later) I have really bad back problems when I wake up ... I'm very stiff, and I can definitely feel the pressure points in my hips and shoulders. I wake up with my arm numb and just general achyness. I tend to look at my TP like a torture rack, and I'm curious as to whether or not it's gotten better for you or not? I have one exchange with the return policy and I am very tempted to use it... but I have to wait 15 days. Ugh. Not sure if I can do it! Any thoughts or reviews on the Cloud Luxe would be helpful! Right now, it's just way too firm for me and I'm starting to panic that I wasted a whole lot of money on this mattress!
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Hi Megami We actually got a "Deluxe" Tempupedic. Currently we have been sleeping on it just over 3 weeks now. Generally the low back pain has gradually improved but last night had a little increased back pain so not sure what's up with that! We were unable to use our luscious flannel bottom sheet because it really made the mattress hard, this must be related to the temperature sensitivity of the tempurpedic foam. We are having better luck with a jersey/summer weight bottom sheet and of course we are using a very thin mattress protector. Well we still have a long way to go to use up our 90 day sleep trial. So as my husband says, "the jury is still out". I would encourage you to give it a little more time however. It's so hard to go through all the back pain. I wish there was an easier way to find the perfect mattress besides all the exhausting trial and error and without spending too much. We would have gone with the "Rhapsody" Tempurpedic model but it was about another $500 and when one is already spending $3500 it's kind of hard to justify this. |
I spent less than $2000 on my Rhapsody. I could never afford retail price. Check out Ebay and Craigslist. Got mine from a liquidator, brand new in the box, delivery included. Only problem is that you don't have the 90 day comfort guarantee, but if you don't like it, it's pretty easy to re-sell it on Craigslist. I did that with a TP I had before I got the Rhapsody that didn't work out for me, and ended up making a small profit even. My Tempurpedic pillows came from Ebay at much less than retail. If you do buy from Ebay, check the seller out carefully, as some sell fakes, but there are good sellers on there selling authentic TP pillows and mattresses at good prices. |