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First off, I am new to this forum. A huge thanks to everyone that contributes here, as most of the information is very informative. Here's my story: Had a cheap (no name) mattress given to me about 5 - 6 years ago. It is labeled as a firm cushion top. Decided to upgrad to a king size bed, so I bought a Denver Mattress (the name/model slips my mind) for around $800. It was only 1 - 2 weeks old before it starting sagging in the middle and I was waking up in the middle of the night with numb hands/arms. Needless to say, I returned it.
Second mattress: took the advice of many and went the Costco route. Chose the Sealy Posturepedic Alanson (cheap, cushion firm). It was supportive, however, felt a little springy and uncomfortable after 3 - 4 weeks. Sent it back.
Third mattress: Costco Stearns and Foster Cadbury. This one was twice as much ($1500 vs. $750), and for a few weeks, truly seemed like "the one" for me. Unfortunately, it started to sag in the middle - similar to the Denver mattress set. This one went back too.
Current mattress: Thought I would give Costco one last shot, so I chose the Sleep Science Latex mattress. The reviews on this site were overall positive, with the exception being the frame. I can vouch for the frame - it's not a very smart design at all. Mainly because of the lack of support at the top/surface of the frame. They should have used something with solid and consistent support, as you can faintly feel the dips and rails when you're laying down. Also, this mattress is definately on the firm side, even with the softer side up. I am a male of average height and weight (5'10" and 175 lbs) and thought I preferred a little firm, however, I must prefer soft becuase this mattress is very unconfortable. I have even added the Costco Cuddlebed as a topper, and it's still uncomfortable. I am still pretty much sold on the latex option, however, this one hasn't been working out. Any advice on latex? Thank you in advance for any help! |
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You could keep that one and add 1-2" of soft talalay latex on top (or possibly memory foam). I don't think the cuddletop really provides any reall support, so I don't think that would would work by itself. Probably best to buy in 1" increments so you can fine tune. Otherwise, consider sleepez, flobeds, or foamsweetfoam if you want to be able to customize one to your desired firmness. |
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Thanks for the advice. I have plenty of time, so I may try 1" of soft latex on top. I am kind of hesitant to spend more money on this setup after reading that the latex is possibly made in China and of lower quality, though. I haven't done anything about the foundation, so that's another issue and concern. To be honest, I'm not sure I want to invest anymore money in this mattress, given the quality and foundation issues. What do you guys think?
Is there a 1" latex pad you would recommend? Currently, there's only 1" of 19 ILD, with 2" of 24 ILD under that (both Dunlop, I am pretty sure) |
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The foundatiion does seem to be a problem on this mattress. It is possible you may want to return that and keep the mattress. However, if the whole combination is way off, then maybe a total return is for the best. If the mattress itself seems in the ballpark, the I would add 1" increments of talalay (if you indeed want soft) of 20 or less ILD. Foambymail has a cheap 20, but I am not certain of the quality or the ILD accuracy, so that is a gamble. The price is good though. Otherwise, it is pretty hard to get 20 and below ILD especially in 1". Sleeplikeabear has blended talalay in 19 and 14. I have 1" of the 19 and it is decent quality. If you like memory foam feel, overstock.com has 1" 5lb. Sensus (I have it, but it is a hotter than latex) and 1" of various other 4lb. memory foams. They have an effective ILDs of around 12-15. Some people with sensitive backs hate any memory foam, but personally I like the feel and usually use 1 or 2 inches of it. |
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chattvol wrote: Is there a 1" latex pad you would recommend? Currently, there's only 1" of 19 ILD, with 2" of 24 ILD under that (both Dunlop, I am pretty sure) |
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WHY IS COSTCO SELLING THIS JUNK FOUNDATION? WHY IS SLEEP SCIENCE CONTINUING TO SELL THIS JUNK FOUNDATION? WHAT SORT OF POLICY IS THIS?
I HAVE TO DIFFER WITH YOU. THE SOFT SIDE OF THIS SLEEP SCIENCE LATEX MATTRESS SOLD BY COSTCO IS VERY SOFT NOT "FIRM AT ALL LIKE YOU CLAIM IT TO BE. |
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I'm not sure why they continue to produce such a shotty product either. I seem to recall someone on this board saying they called Sleep Science regarding the foundation issues, and SS instructed them to put a peice of plywood on top of the foundation. This doesn't seem like a reasonable solution, especially when you paid almost $2,000 for the product. I'm seriously considering the Sam's Club latex mattress now. It sounds like they use higher quality latex (Latexco?), has a better cover that includes wool, and has 5 zones (which I hear is best for side sleepers). If I go this route, I will share my experience. Thanks for all of the adivce, though. |
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Just wanted to follow up on the Costco latex mattress situation. I spoke with the manufacturer last week and explained the foundation issues. They seemed like they were aware of the issue and offered to send some type of rails - said they only took 30 seconds to install. Bob Dupree, the VP of Sales, also mentioned something about adding a layer of memory foam in a voicemail he left me. I never really liked the feel of memory foam, that's why I chose latex to begin with. Further, I don't think I should have to make modifications to a product that cost right around $2k. I called Costco today and asked them to come pick the mattress and foundation up. Not sure what I will do now, but I'm done with this latex mattress! |
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chattvol wrote: Just wanted to follow up on the Costco latex mattress situation. I spoke with the manufacturer last week and explained the foundation issues. They seemed like they were aware of the issue and offered to send some type of rails - said they only took 30 seconds to install. Bob Dupree, the VP of Sales, also mentioned something about adding a layer of memory foam in a voicemail he left me. I never really liked the feel of memory foam, that's why I chose latex to begin with. Further, I don't think I should have to make modifications to a product that cost right around $2k.
I called Costco today and asked them to come pick the mattress and foundation up. Not sure what I will do now, but I'm done with this latex mattress! As we said earlier, you could try a latex topper. You might want to consider a customizable latex: sleepez, foamsweetfoam, flobeds. I think you have seen the results of the major innerspring brands: sagging. You say you don't like memory foam, so that mainly leaves latex, a waterbed, very expensive innersprings, or air filled (sleep number for example). |
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chattvol wrote:
First off, I am new to this forum. A huge thanks to everyone that contributes here, as most of the information is very informative. Here's my story:
Had a cheap (no name) mattress given to me about 5 - 6 years ago. It is labeled as a firm cushion top. Decided to upgrad to a king size bed, so I bought a Denver Mattress (the name/model slips my mind) for around $800. It was only 1 - 2 weeks old before it starting sagging in the middle and I was waking up in the middle of the night with numb hands/arms. Needless to say, I returned it.
Second mattress: took the advice of many and went the Costco route. Chose the Sealy Posturepedic Alanson (cheap, cushion firm). It was supportive, however, felt a little springy and uncomfortable after 3 - 4 weeks. Sent it back.
Third mattress: Costco Stearns and Foster Cadbury. This one was twice as much ($1500 vs. $750), and for a few weeks, truly seemed like "the one" for me. Unfortunately, it started to sag in the middle - similar to the Denver mattress set. This one went back too.
Current mattress: Thought I would give Costco one last shot, so I chose the Sleep Science Latex mattress. The reviews on this site were overall positive, with the exception being the frame. I can vouch for the frame - it's not a very smart design at all. Mainly because of the lack of support at the top/surface of the frame. They should have used something with solid and consistent support, as you can faintly feel the dips and rails when you're laying down. Also, this mattress is definately on the firm side, even with the softer side up. I am a male of average height and weight (5'10" and 175 lbs) and thought I preferred a little firm, however, I must prefer soft becuase this mattress is very unconfortable. I have even added the Costco Cuddlebed as a topper, and it's still uncomfortable. I am still pretty much sold on the latex option, however, this one hasn't been working out. Any advice on latex? Thank you in advance for any help!
i just saw what you weigh and i weigh the same, oh well, then this one will probably be going back just like all the others, darn... This message was modified Sep 7, 2010 by randys
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My first piece of advice is to stop buying cheap mattresses. The quality is poor and they will not last. My second piece of advice is, if you are interested in exploring latex further, go to a QUALITY mattress company for your next latex bed. If you felt the Costco mattress was too firm, then get Talalay latex in a mattress kit, where you layer 3-4 pieces of latex together inside a zippered mattress cover. This will allow you the flexibility to try different firmnesses of latex to find what works for you. Further, if you have a partner, each side of the mattress can be customized to your individual preferences. Talalay latex is softer than Dunlop latex (what the Costco mattress is) so you will probably prefer that. My third piece of advice is to get a quality foundation for your latex mattress. . . whether this is a traditional foundation or a slotted base, up to you, as long as you invest in something that will properly support your latex mattress and you. Good, quality latex is not cheap, expect to pay around $2k for a queen and more for a king. I would start by looking at Flobeds.com and sleepez.com. These companies both make a high quality product. My personal preference is for Flobeds, though I have a mattress made by each company in my household. This message was modified Sep 8, 2010 by KimberlyH
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