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HI all! First post here... I've been lurking, reading, and researching using this site and others for the past several days and I'm so glad I found you all here. My hubby and I are looking at buying a new latex bed and it seems like such a major decision that I know I need help from people who know a lot more than me. Here's a little about us: We bought our last bed when we first got engaged, 6 years ago. We picked a foam bed to help with his back and my neck issues. It owas great for a while, but has completely caved in and offers no support anymore. This time around, we're looking at latex because we have a young son and are planning for a second child, so we'd like to minimize everyone's exposure to toxic chemicals from our bed. I'm not brave enough to buy online, so I'm shopping locally. My options seems to be Pure Rest-www.purerest.com (most expensive of the bunch), Land and Sky-www.landandsky.com (most affordable) and WJ Southard www.wjsouthard.com (most comfortable, but a little pricey and doesn't have interchangeable layers.) Oh and I should add that we're both big boned germanic/swedish types. And since we're planning another pregnancy, this bed we'll need to be seriously supportive. Of course I'm a side sleeper (especially during pregnancy) so it'll need to be a little soft too. I'm finding all the options completely overwhelming and since this is such a MAJOR purchase for us, I turn to y'all for help. Help! :-) Do y'all have any recomendations or at least ideas to help make our decisions? Thanks in advance, -Amber |
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AmberMB wrote: Kimberly, Yes! Thank you! I totally want honesty here. I'm not so concerned about organic when it comes to bed choices. I'm concerned about chemical flame retardents and natural latex. I am SO unhappy with the PU foam mattress that I'm wanting to stick with natural latex. But whether it's organically grown isn't much of a concern. So based on your assessment, I need to rethink the buying local plan and look at an online retailer?
-Amber If you have a question about flame retardents in latex, I suggest you call Flobeds or Sleepez. These two firms seem to be the major players in latex mattresses and they will know the answers to your questions. Some makers of latex mattresses use flame retardants in the mattress cover. The latex mattresses that are made with cotton and wool covers don't have flame retardants as I believe the wool, a natural fire retardant, meets fire safety standards. I have this bed from Flobeds in blended Talalay latex, and I just ordered this bed for my daughter from Sleepez. You can ask all the questions you like on this forum, but in the end, nothing beats calling the experts to have your questions answered. |
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I could not handle any type of chemical flame retardents added to my mattress due to my allergies. I could not even handle a new conventional mattress due to outgassing. I had bought a bed from a local store 3.25 years ago that I found out I was so allergic to. It was a Simons with a pillow top that was made up of man made latex, Polyurethane and a suede top. I couldn't breath and I was burning up. I could not sleep in the same room as the mattress and had to sleep on the floor in the other room until Rockaway Bedding took the mattress away. That is when I decided to sleep on the floor until my busy season ended since I already wasted 2 weeks looking for the mattress, buying the mattress and then returning it. The floor was too hard so I bought a 1" soft latex topper from Overstock and found out I liked sleeping on latex just like I liked sleeping all my life on my natural latex pillows. I asked many quesitons on forums and two of my clients (who I had cancelled their first appointment with due to the allergy to the bed) at the end of their appointment told me about FloBeds. I tried out so many latex beds in stores and then ordered the bed too soft. Thank goodness for all the latex exchanges. I was not allergic at all to the bed but the smell from the pine slats bothered me for a few days so I had to put two air cleaners blowing on it. I love having a bed that does not cause me to have allergies and that gives me support. I also like having a bed that I was able to configure to meet my needs since we are all so different.
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KimberlyH wrote: What I don't like about Pure Rest is that they are calling their latex foam organic...this is simply not possible. You can raise rubber trees organically, some companies do this...most do not, and even if you avoid the stabilization chemicals, you still need vulcanizing agents. You cannot just turn natural rubber into foam without adding something to it. This is why its better to call the foam 100% natural, rather than organic. I say this as someone who actually specializes in the organic field, and its something I believe in very passionately...however the line has to be drawn somewhere...you cannot make latex foam purer than about 95~97% purity...if we allow the 3~5% slip on even the purest rubber around and call it organic then there is a slippery slope where we could also call 30% soy based foam "organic". |
| Well, I just decided to go with the Land and Sky bed because we could lay on it in the store and then I realized that the SleepEZ showroom is in Tempe and we're going out to Phoenix NEXT WEEK. Maybe we'll spend a little time on vacation trying out SleepEz beds. :-) |
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AmberMB, that is great! It is the best to be near one of the online stores to take your time to try out the bed and get it close to right the first time. Please keep us updated.
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AmberMB wrote: Well, I just decided to go with the Land and Sky bed because we could lay on it in the store and then I realized that the SleepEZ showroom is in Tempe and we're going out to Phoenix NEXT WEEK. Maybe we'll spend a little time on vacation trying out SleepEz beds. :-) |
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Amber, I think you're fortunate to be able to go there in person and actually try out the beds. As Kimberly says, hopefully you'll be able to compare actual matresses in different configurations and feel the difference between Dunlop and Talalay. And, hopefully, you'll find yourself a little less bewildrered by all the choices. Please report back to those of us (me) who can't make a decision! |
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Kimberly, the land and sky website is pretty vague. They do have a zippable cover and interchangeable layers. After reading this forum I'm convinced this is the way to go. But of course they don't specialize in latex and I know Sleep EZ will have more options. It seems like the prices are comparable, but I'm having a hard time with the SleepEZ site. The timing works out so well to go there in person, I don't think I can turn it down! :-)
Cynical-I promise to report back! |
| Update-Ok, I just spoke to Shawn at Sleep EZ. They're running an April special on natural latex which is great, but confusing. The cover is cotton and Rayon and it looks like a dunlop core with a talalay topper. Anyone have experience with the cotton/rayon blend cover? Just concerned about breathability and feel compared to 100% cotton or Cotton/Wool. |
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Hi Amber, I saw that April special, and I didn't buy it. First of all, it's only for a six or eight inch mattress, and since you're bigger people, you probably would be more comfortable with a 10" (8" would be a minimum). Second, like you say, it's only for a Dunlop latex, and I prefer Talalay, it has a totally different feel. Third, the mattress cover is not as good as their other ones. I'd recommend that you get an all cotton and wool cover for your mattress. What I ordered from Sleepez is this one, however I asked them if they would give me the organic cotton and wool mattress cover they sell with their organic latex mattress, and they agreed to do that. My mattress from Sleepez is due to arrive tomorrow, though I'll be gone all day, so I probably won't actually get it until Friday. |