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Has anyone purchased from Plushbeds? Can't seem to find much information on them. Thanks! |
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you mean a salesperson in WA said he designed the natura slatted system used in their slatted mattresses? I honestly never knew it was someone other than the father/son who started the company as that was the first type of mattress they ever made back in 94'. OMI is all 'natural' talalay right? They actually tried to contact us a long time ago to carry their product....how would you compare the product to the Natura's you tried on the overall? We also had Magniflex contact us to become a dealer....their product seems very confusing and very gimmicky, I really was not interested in it whatsoever. |
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Yes, the salesperson was the son of the owner that had been in the industry for a long time. They have a close relationship with natura and showed me his "invention" while he was showing me the mattresses. He was quite unassuming about it and told me it came from his research into european slatted systems that at the time he designed it were not so widely available. Of course I didn't "research" his claim but it wasn't said with the "tone" of hype in any way or with the intent of getting me to buy it. The Terra has a Talalay core and then "softer" latex on either side and then the topper. They do say it's all natural but their literature doesn't say the other layers are Talalay although I would think they were (and some other places say it is all Talalay). At the time I wasn't really considering it due to the price but I did like it's feel a lot. It would probably be safe to say that if it wasn't for the Terra and that we both wanted something that felt as good as that but within our budget, I would probably have bought something much sooner. It was the desire to reproduce it and see "what else was out there" that was the initial impetus to my research before it took on a life of its own. It to me felt and looked much nicer than any of the Natura's that I either lay on or even saw. It was very impressive. Their 81 was also very interesting and from a retail point of view could be quite practical as there are no comfort exchanges (it has 81 different configurations). The magniflex to me was one big series of gimmics. I did lay on a couple and they were ok but nothing special ... especially for their price range. Even the salesperson there didn't treat them too seriously. I guess I just couldn't see the benefit of 22 karat gold impregnated yarn ... or any of their other "special benefits". Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix,
Congratulations on your mattress. Sounds like you hit the right formula. Enjoy!!!! My wife and I are continuing our hunt. Ran into the back store and came across Swiss Rest. Was very comfortable and all talalay latex. Also tried the OMI lago. Here are the specs on the Swiss Rest: The cushion firm was a great combination for us. Euro pillow top was quilted latex. Latex Int. is the supplier. I am cking out the company on the web. Have you heard of them? Positive/negative?? sy
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If this Swiss Rest is what you mean then yes I have quite a bit of information about them. They are one of a large "family" of websites (at least 20) that I came across often in different iterations in my research. I came to recognize them pretty quickly and kept adding to a long list of sites that was (sort of) the same so I wouldn't keep covering the same ground. At that time most of them hadn't attached the name "Swiss Rest" to their mattress (and I don't think most of them do even now). They have been around for quite a while and specialize in adjustable beds and "medical" applications although they sell to consumers as well. They are all in the electropedic "family" of businesses and to their credit, at least the bbb rating of this site is an A (don't know if this covers the whole family or just this site). I wanted to talk to someone closer to the "origin" of all these websites so I talked with someone here (pretty sure it was this one anyway but I'd have to go through a bunch of old notes to be sure) . This may or may not be the main site (Its different from the previous link) but I'm glad I called it. The different websites had a lot of conflicting information and prices and they seemed very disorganized. For example at some sites the breakdown of the outer layers is 1.1, at other sites it is 1.9. Perhaps this is the difference between their high and low profile but I thought their low profile was just the core. Having said that, I did have quite a long conversation with the person I talked to and he was quite up front with me. He said they were in a kind of "transition" period and that they hadn't really decided on a mattress that they wanted to "promote". He acknowledged the confusion that could come from the differing information at their many websites. He did say that while he personally did like the mattress with 1.1 + 5.6 + 1.1 ... that they were having some problems with it especially on adjustable beds. He seemed to know what he was talking about and seemed very honest ... but what he said didn't inspire me about the company (even though I appreciated the person). The main reason I talked to them was because of their combination of latex mattresses and the selection of adjustable beds at good prices (at least if you bought both from them) but not the best prices. In the end, I was getting so much conflicting information about them that I pretty much decided to pass them by given the amount of choice there was out there. Everything I did with them though was on the internet, it sounds like you found a bricks and mortar outlet. If that is the case then of course your research becomes much easier. FWIW ... the Latex International blended talalay comes in 5.6 inch slabs. The all natural is 6". Even many/most of the blended they are producing now is 6". I would personally question outer layers that were that thin (1.1 or 1.9 depending on which website you go to) but personal experience should always overrule theory. I also believe that each of the different outlets has some degree of "independence" so the actual mattresses may be different as well. There is another "family" of websites (homeplacegroup) that I spend many hours trying to "unravel" that is even worse with outdated pricing and information. In their case all their sites lead to the same place (or at least the same place answers the phone). They would not honor any of the adjustable bed/mattress combinations I was interested in and kept trying to do a bait and switch with me (with the better value similar pricing BS). So was this an actual store where you lay on mattresses? Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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Along the same lines, here are a few other websites that I would approach with caution. http://www.dremata.com/contact.html http://www.greenmattressfactory.com/ They are all somehow connected to http://www.bbb.org/centralohio/business-reviews/mattresses/quilting-inc-dba-mattress-mart-in-plain-city-oh-4221 I'm not sure if this connection is through ownership, family, or that they (quilting inc) were just suppliers and caught up in a chain of events. There are probably other similar websites as well (beside other dead ones you will come across if you decide to do some looking). They all have some very nice looking mattresses at seemingly very good prices and the Dremata site had even nicer ones (when I talked to them they were very surprised I had found it as it was still active at the time). I think it might have been my call that prompted him to take it down as it went dead shortly after. I put up the (dead) Dremata link in case it ever comes back or in case anyone wants to do any further research for their own purposes The BBB website also lists some "aliases" such as King Koil and Englander and I doubt that they are part of any of this but they may have manufactured these brands under some kind of license at one time. I am not saying that they are "bad" but there is some history here which I would make sure you were aware of regarding different family members and transfer of business ownership and/or bankruptcy and some of the debts (and customers) they "left behind". I talked to some of the people who had been affected. When I talked with them it was quite funny. At first he was very "helpful and nice" but when I asked about some of what I had heard he immediately switched to "defensive salesman semi aggressive" mode and then when I said "I know that you have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt and probably none of it was true but I had to ask" ... he immediately went back to helpful and nice. Unfortunately some of their names are very similar to some really good and reputable websites as well so make sure you don't "throw out the baby with the bathwater" Be careful out there. Phoenix PS: none of these are ones I have referred to in previous (negative) posts since they were not so much about "bad business" as much as "bad attitude" or "bad information". This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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Good evening Phoenix,
How is the new mattress working out?? Hope all is going well. The store we went to was The Back Store. They do mostly tempur-pedic with some other mattresses thrown in. We went there because they carried the OMI and we wanted to try them to rate them with other mattresses we tried. We tried the Terra, Lago and Flora. The Terra was nice but we like the Lago for a little more support and the Flora was too firm. After we layed on the OMI's, the owner directed us to the Swiss Rest. The feel was between the Terra and the Lago. So I spoke with the sales rep after reading your response and advised I would like more info on the product and informed him I couldn't find anything directly related to Swiss Rest. He advised a sale rep from the company will call to answer my questions. The company name is Advanced Medical which is owned by The Back Store which does not have a public web site. Sounds strange to me. Have a list of questions when the rep calls. It is so hard trying to find latex mattresses to try out. In our area there are no latex mattress dealers with some of the brands we have researched on the web and we had to travel two hours to try out the OMI's. I think we are getting close to understanding the various comfort levels with ILD's. Questions - Does the blended latex have a different density then natural latex or are they close in the ILD ratings? If you use a blend what is the best % for blending? Is it better mattress construction for the different layers which make up the comfort levels to be "glued or adhered" together for a better fell or doesn't it matter? Will let you know what the company rep has to say.
sy
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They sure sound similar to electropedic which also specializes in consumer/medical mattresses, beds, and other things. It's just too much of a coincidence http://www.electroease.com/Swiss-Rest.html Blended Talalay and natural Talalay would feel very similar if they had the same ILD. I doubt that anyone could tell the difference if they didn't know which was which. Natural would be a little "springier" but the difference would be very small. Not as much difference as there would be between a similar ild layer of Dunlop latex and Talalay latex. Here is a discussion between Latex international and Savvy Rest that talks about it a little more: http://www.savvyrest.com/blog/qa-our-talalay-suppliers What city are you in? I may have some small supplier in my list near you. And the mattress is wonderful. I can honestly say I haven't slept this well for a long time. No back issues for either of us so far either which would have been my only concern given that it is softer than many people would choose. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 25, 2010 by Phoenix
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We live in Springfield, Illinois. We may have to plan a trip to Chicago, Indianapolis or St. Louis.
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Here are a few that might be worth either a phone call or a trip. Haven't talked to these but they make restonic (all latex can be expensive if they carry these but good for test purposes) and their own according to their website They also make their own but their website doesn't say anything about latex. Might be worth a call I did talk to these people and they quoted me a price of 1399 for 6+2 = 9" latex. Probably worth a call and if they sound promising a visit You've been here but added just for reference for anyone else from springfield that may read this thread. From your experience at the back store you are seemingly getting close to knowing what you like. My experience with electropedic (electroease) was directed more to putting a mattress on an adjustable bed and not so much to the quality of their mattress. 1.9" on either side of a 5.6" core 2 sided could be a very good combination for many people but of course it would also depend on what they were charging. Phoenix |
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Hi Phoenix, Have visited those places and they don't have anything that interests us. Have not been contacted by the rep for Swiss Rest so I may be steering clear of them. I have been looking closely at tomorrows world cozy embrace. Their 7" core is dunlop 28/32/28 with 3" of talalay 19 plus the quilted cover of 1/2 dunlop latex and wool in a cotton covering is tempting and is close to our ILD numbers. Trying to determine how the talalay 35 core of 6" in the OMI with 3" talalay 22 would compare. I am thinking the embrace would feel more in line with Swiss Rest with the 19 talalay but can't be sure due to the dunlop core. We are going to continue our search and try to find some dunlop mattresses to try and feel the difference between the two types of latex. Got to run just had a call from the Swiss Rest rep. Talk with you later and let you know what he has to say.
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