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We had a lovely looking Stearns and Foster king sized bed that was about 6 or 7 yrs old -- looked like this <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattressstillmostlyintact.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattressstillmostlyintact.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
But it was sagging and we were both hating it :( Thanks to this board we finally got the courage to just peek inside <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattress1stcut.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattress1stcut.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Holy cow what are we thinking -- this was an expensive mattress! <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattressapeekinside.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattressapeekinside.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Here's what's under the hood <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattresscrappylayers.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattresscrappylayers.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> and another look <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattresscrappylayers2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattresscrappylayers2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> This is what was sewn/quilted into the cover <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattresscrappyquiltedlayers.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattresscrappyquiltedlayers.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> we just tossed this layer. Here are the interior layers <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattresslayers.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattresslayers.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Here's a not great view of the springs <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattresssprings.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattresssprings.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> there's a poly batting over them and a rigid styrofoam like (but not as brittle) layer around the perimeter of the mattress -- I assume to protect the cover from the springs. We also tossed one very thin interior layer -- it just ripped in my hands <a href="http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/?action=view&current=mattress--tossedthislayer-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/stacytr/mattress--tossedthislayer-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> We have a 2" memory foam topper from overstock on top and left in the thickest foam layers -- they seem to be some kind of high density foam and are pretty firm. After the surgery, the mattress felt better at first -- but now it just feels way too firm -- even with the memory foam. And I can't believe I'm writing this, but I hate it even more now. I'm ready to just buy a Sam's club or Costco or Ikea mattress -- I'm scared of spending $400-500 on toppers and not getting it right when I can start from scratch with a new bed for around that price. We aren't sure what to get next -- we had planned on some sort of latex topper from foambymail, but aren't sure which thickness or ILD to get to make the bed more comfy. I would LOVE to get some opinions -- should we pull all the foam and put in latex (and probably the memory foam too) -- or get the Costco Sleep Science on sale for $550, or the Aerus at Sam's club for about the same price, or....? This message was modified Sep 4, 2011 by stacytr
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stacytr wrote: Ok how desperate am I?! I am hoping for a few someones to give additional opinions on our purchase -- going to order today!
Since Sandman and Sleeplikeadog have posted slightly different opinions on thickness, I find myself waffling and I can't seem to make a decision on depth. It's a little cheaper to buy thicker right up front than it is to buy 2" and then add a 3rd inch of the same ILD later -- but the price difference is by no means significant. I just am really hoping to be one of the rare few that gets it right the first time out of the gate!! As I get thicker, I wonder if the springs start being superfluous. Sandman, I added info to my report on the springs above (post #9) -- I would say that the bed when we bought it was a fairly firm (med-firm?) -- and my guess is that the springs alone feel probably medium -- so maybe it is close to your sealy. As I get a bit older I am liking a bit more softness than I used to like, but still with really good firm support underneath. We went to Custom Comfort mattress store and tried several beds with latex -- and one of the ones we really liked was a 32 ILD talalay (from LI) with a 1" 19 ILD on top and bottom (flippable). This was also on a foundation rather than a boxspring -- which is what we have at home. We also liked a really firm innerspring bed that had a 2" 19 ILD topper. Interestingly enough they also had a pillowtop innerspring with 2" of 19 ILD built into it, and I liked it less than the one with the seperate topper. She swore to me it was the same coils inside so I don't know what made the difference in feel... So for our purchase -- we are getting either 2" or 3" of FBM 32 ILD (and hoping that it is somwhere close to what it says it is) and getting 1" - 2" of 19 ILD we also already have a 2" overstock mem foam (supposed to be about a 5 pound density but we never confirmed that -- it's just heavy) that may be starting to wear out . We are mostly side sleepers -- I like the bed a bit firmer than my husband -- but I also have a thin plywood type piece I could put between the mattress and boxsprings if needed. If you were us which combo of foam would you buy? (Assuming you would buy from foam by mail!) Should we bother with the terry cover? Thank you!! :) I still prefer 2" of 32 and probably at least 1" of medium foam (24-28) as a transition. However, I like it on the medium to medium/soft fell. My box spring is very firm, and that can be a factor as well. Any chance you know the coil count in your mattress? I would say that mine is pretty firm, with a high coil count and a firm box spring. Yours looks like a similiar construction, so I think it would be similiar unless you have a lower coil count or thinner gauge. It is nice to have just one piece, but my philosophy is too have more flexiblity which is easier with thinner pieces. Easier to move them around as well. You can always add an inch, but you can't make a piece thinner. In reality, you probably will make a mistake or 2 and it will cost you some money. I know I did, but in the end it was worth it.
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sandman wrote: .......my philosophy is to have more flexiblity which is easier with thinner pieces. Easier to move them around as well. You can always add an inch, but you can't make a piece thinner. ^^^ This. Go for flexibility. I've been sorry when I didn't do that. This message was modified Sep 9, 2011 by Catherine
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sandman wrote:
I still prefer 2" of 32 and probably at least 1" of medium foam (24-28) as a transition. However, I like it on the medium to medium/soft fell. My box spring is very firm, and that can be a factor as well. Any chance you know the coil count in your mattress? I would say that mine is pretty firm, with a high coil count and a firm box spring. Yours looks like a similiar construction, so I think it would be similiar unless you have a lower coil count or thinner gauge. It is nice to have just one piece, but my philosophy is too have more flexiblity which is easier with thinner pieces. Easier to move them around as well. You can always add an inch, but you can't make a piece thinner. In reality, you probably will make a mistake or 2 and it will cost you some money. I know I did, but in the end it was worth it.
Thanks Sandman and Catherine for chiming in -- worshipping you both a little right now for responding! :D Sandman, I'm not positive on the coil count on my mattress -- I tried to just count along the inside edges and multiply -- I'm assuming I was counting correctly (just trying to do it by feel since the batting covers the coils) -- I got 840 -- that's on a king sized bed. I did find this link that gives some info on coil counts for the major brands http://www.mattressbuy.com/mattress_buy_htm/information/mattress_core.htm According to it my coil count is 504 but the gauge is 12.75. I wonder if Budgy would say this info is accurate? So less coils but heavier weight than your Sealy. What does that mean for the feel in comparison to yours? I really don't know! I also found this "Many people ask if more coils are better. The answer is...it depends. More coils are better when the manufacturer spaces the same size and type of coils closer together providing more coils in the same size mattress. Trying to compare the quality of mattresses between brands based on coil count is not applicable. For example, of all the major brands we sell, Stearns and Foster mattresses have the fewest number of coils, but they also use the thickest wire. Even with less coils, the Stearns and Foster coil unit has more working steel in it than any other mattress we sell. Realistically, there are just too many variables in coil design, function, and durability for consumers to understand what they are getting without spending days on coil research... " from this site: http://www.us-mattress.com/howtoshop.html I find it kind of interesting (I may be a bit mattress obsessed)
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