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I am planning on buying a new bed with adjustable base. Costco is selling a latex bed that is described as Talalay latex, dual sided (medium firm/plush comfort) with the following layers: 1" super soft foam, 2" 24 ILD Latex, 6" 32 ILD Latex, 2" 40 ILD, 7/8" firm foam. Price is $4500 for the 'king' adjustable which is actually 2 XL twins on a Leggett and Platt S-Cape base. Does anyone have any knowledge about this mattress? It is difficult to make a purchase like this without having the opportunity to lie on the bed. The other mattresses we are considering are the Dr Breus. The Simmons Comforpedic Phenom. And the Pure Latex Bliss. These were all at Sleepy's, and we chose the middle of the line in each of these 3. My concerns about an all latex bed is that there seems to be very little edge support when you lie close to the edge of the bed or sit on the edge to put on shoes - at least that was how the Bliss felt. Your input is appreciated. |
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Dont have experience with that particular bed, but it is interesting with the dual sides - with a 32 ILD core that shoud certainly be soft on the plush side. Ive tried a 2" 24 ILD over 6" 36 ILD and it was quite soft. I believe that base is about $2000 by itself? So the mattress is $2500? If thats about right, you could certainly do worse for king size, all talalay. The fact that it is flippable adds value. Do you know what the "super soft foam" is made of? For me personally, I avoid any PU foam in the top layer, even in the cover - in addition to durability issues, it makes me sleep hot. If you havent checked it out already, there's more discussion on the Costco Nature's Caress model in this thread: http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/adjustable-latex-bed-costco/11215-A-1.html
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Hmmm - I never really paid any attention to the 1" of foam on either side of the mattress. And I have little familiarity with the ILD numbers, other than knowing that the firmness increases as the numbers increase. Will the soft side be too soft and the firm side be too firm? They give a Leggett and Platt phone number for questions - I think I will call them tomorrow and ask about this mattress. I will see if the same mattress is out there under a different name - I doubt that Costco is the only one selling this. Re the lack of edge support - I sat on the thicker, plusher Bliss and slid right off - there was no edge support at all. That was just dangerous - putting on shoes was not the issue - just getting in and out of bed would be a risk! When I turned sideways and was close to the edge on the mattress we are considering (you know that position - when you are angry at your partner and can't get far enough away, lol) I felt a little of that edge softness and my legs felt like they might slide off the bed - but sitting on the side was fine. The link was to a thread where the posters ended up buying something other than the Costco Nature's Caress, so there is no personal experience reported unfortunately. |
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garyfam wrote: When I turned sideways and was close to the edge on the mattress we are considering If you cant try out the Costco bed, the best you can do is compare it to something you can try. For example the PUre Latex Bliss specs are available: I believe the softest bed in their line is the "Beautiful" model, which is 3" 19 ILD, 2" 24 ILD, 6" 36 ILD. Next is the Nutrition: 2" 19 ILD, 2" 28 ILD, 6" 36 ILD. Then the Nature: 2" 19 ILD, 1" 28 ILD, 6" 36 ILD. If you know which model you tried and how you liked it, that can give you some idea of where the costco compares. Note the Bliss models have a softer top layer, so the costco may have less of the side softness, but I think latex in general has that quality. So you may just need to stay on good terms with your partner - lol! |
| there are also two versions of the S-Cape adjustable available...I would try to find out if this is the model with the higher lift capacity. |
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Hi proof1st, I'm just curious where you were able to find the Pure Latex Bliss ILD's? When I was mattress shopping about 6 months ago I looked quite a bit on the internet but could never find them. When I asked the salesman that I got my bed from (the Beautiful model) he said I wouldn't find them, and he didn't even know, because they weren't published yet. I never did contact the company though. Just curious. Thank you. CT |
| I personally could not find the ILD numbers for the Bliss. The salesman at a Sleepys claimed that the 2 latex layers combined to make a 36 ILD, but I doubt he really knew what he was talking about. They are described as a 4" layer and a 6" layer - but of what I don't know. By the way, the same salesman told me that the ILD ratings have the lower numbers as the firmest latex. My understanding is the opposite, so I wouldn't believe a thing he says. Truthfully, not one Sleepys salesman seemed to get anything correct! |
| We bought a similar set up for a the same price from Custom Sleep Design but with the newer top of the line adjustable called Prodigy. 11 inch latex mattress (not including the inch or so from the wool in the cover). The mattresses zip open, and CSD will do comfort exchanges until you are happy. I finally got round to doing a review if you look at the new posts but a warning: it's long as I go into my history etc. Skip to the end if you're interested in the bed we bought only. As far as the ILD of the latex in the bed you're looking at, it sounds like a good medium firmness that most people would find comfortable. People are very different though, which is why the ones that have the flexibility of comfort exchanges are popular, and if you can get that for the same price, I would consider it a no brainer. But then again, I hear Costco is great with returns etc. I don't think that small amount of PU foam is a major problem, but it would have been much better if they'd have used a 14-19 ild latex instead. Indentations while hardly desirable are probably tolerable at only an inch or so deep. My choice for the same price would still be the better product. |
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Budgy - The Costco L&P base is the S-Cape with the DC Whisper Quiet motor. This one is rated for 450#, not the higher 600 per twin, but that is fine with me. We are small people (125lbs, 155 lbs), and the quieter motor is our top priority. I have continued my search, and have dealt with even more misinformed Sleepys sales people. They are the predominant force around here, so it is hard to find much else except the limited selection and knowledge in the department stores. It's really too bad about the Dr. Breus and all the negative comments - that bed, in the Monogram Gold, was REALLY comfortable. |
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garyfam wrote: Budgy - The Costco L&P base is the S-Cape with the DC Whisper Quiet motor. This one is rated for 450#, not the higher 600 per twin, but that is fine with me. We are small people (125lbs, 155 lbs), and the quieter motor is our top priority.
I have continued my search, and have dealt with even more misinformed Sleepys sales people. They are the predominant force around here, so it is hard to find much else except the limited selection and knowledge in the department stores. It's really too bad about the Dr. Breus and all the negative comments - that bed, in the Monogram Gold, was REALLY comfortable. |
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garyfam wrote: I personally could not find the ILD numbers for the Bliss. The salesman at a Sleepys claimed that the 2 latex layers combined to make a 36 ILD, but I doubt he really knew what he was talking about. They are described as a 4" layer and a 6" layer - but of what I don't know. By the way, the same salesman told me that the ILD ratings have the lower numbers as the firmest latex. My understanding is the opposite, so I wouldn't believe a thing he says. Truthfully, not one Sleepys salesman seemed to get anything correct! Other specifications I can verify:
No offense to any Sleepys salesmen out there, but it is amazing how consistent they are - I have four different stores in my area and while some are more fun to talk to, when it comes to real questions about a mattress, they are all the same! Another reason to love this forum. |
