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Hello all, I recently found this site while search for mattress reviews, to try and make some sort of educated purchase for a new bed, which I did not realize would be such a daunting task! I appreciate anyone's time to reply. Currently my wife and I are sleeping on a Queen mattress that I bought some 12 years ago when I left college for my first job. I never realized how bad it had gotten until we both started sleeping on it, since I would always just sleep in the middle. Nowadays, she'll migrate during the night to the middle, and I wake up sore and tired from my body fighting from rolling towards the middle.... so, time for a serious upgrade! We both are back/side sleepers, and I tend to prefer a firm mattress. As I read reviews on everything from the $500 sets to $1500, it seems everybody hates their bed! In my opinion a $1500 bed should do everything plus make you a cup of coffee in the morning! lol......I understand the basics of materials, but it seems everybody says they have to cut it and replace the materials... Is there nothing out there that would make a person happy with a stock mattress? suggestions/recommendations please. It's not that I'm against slicing it open and doing the work, I tend to enjoy customizing things, and would have no problem doing so, but I guess I'm looking for recommendations of matress sets to start looking at so that I have a solid foundation of a quality product that last, and when the time comes, can do the modifcations when needed. Again thanks for your time, this first-time poster appreciates everyone's feedback and advice.
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phendyr wrote: Just for S&Gs I thought I'd post my current bed info... I can't even find it on the internet lol.... Factory Direct Grand Duke II Royal Comfort Collection, Super Premium Chiro Super Firm. (wow what a title!) I was trying to find out the specs, and if it'd be even worth trying to do surgery on and replace the foam? your thoughts? Yes, it is definitely worth opening up your mattress to see how the springs are. If they are not dipping in the middle (you can tell just by looking once you get all the old foam off the top of them), then you can certainly just add a couple layers of latex (2-4" usually - I recommend using two x 1" or 1.5" layers of various ILD's of firmness) to replace the old cheap poly foam. If you get it open and see that the springs are shot then you just put the old foam back in there, maybe take off the top layer or so which is probably the most useless) and go back to sleeping on it (just close it back up as best you can) until you get a new mattress. Then you can either buy a cheap Ultra Firm something-or-other and add a latex topper or two, or you can buy or build a latex or HR foam mattress. |
| Less and less are being made by Leggett now that manufacturers can also get them from China. I honestly have no clue of the breakdown nowadays, but more and more product is getting shipped in from overseas. |
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after reading some more I've decided I'm going to look into surgery first on our existing mattress. going to make the cut tonight after work, hopefully hte springs are good enough to give it a try. Just so I understand what I've read correctly, those who've done the surgery, you simply remove all the padding and replace with various layers of latex? for someone looking to keep a firm feel to it, 2 layers of 1" firm latex with a 1" soft layer on top? Does anybody divide it into 'zones' for head, shoulders, back, hips, legs? I thought I read somewhere where a person had done this, but can't find it, I imagine that's a bit more expensive to purchase all the types and cut down to what you need. I will most likely stick rebuilding a firm bed with this first try any feedback on the process I'd appreciate it..... was looking at rocky mountain for the layers. thanks |
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figured I'd add to this thread instead of a new post. I'm ready to buy some layers but can't seem to find what I'm looking for..... looking at say the Sleep EZ 8500 series, they list the options of 3 layers of latex from xtra firm to soft.... I was thinking I would get firm, medium and a soft to replace my old matress materials - stop me if I'm wrong :) All I can find is like on rockymountain, "medium/firm" I don't see where to designate firm or medium? what am I missing? Thanks in advance. |
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Phendyr, You do understand that you need to be looking at toppers or other form of thinner layer when you are doing mattress surgery? Using the 8500 as an example of what you're planning on would add 7 inches to the top of the springs! Even the topper / pads sold at SleepEz seem to be 3 inch thick (probably really 2.8"). I think others who did the surgery used 1" to 1.5" layers at various ILD's. Unless you're looking to add considerable height to your existing mattress I'd be looking at thinner options. |
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rjb772 wrote: Phendyr, You do understand that you need to be looking at toppers or other form of thinner layer when you are doing mattress surgery? Using the 8500 as an example of what you're planning on would add 7 inches to the top of the springs! Even the topper / pads sold at SleepEz seem to be 3 inch thick (probably really 2.8"). I think others who did the surgery used 1" to 1.5" layers at various ILD's. Unless you're looking to add considerable height to your existing mattress I'd be looking at thinner options. |
I bought an eastern king 2" celsion topper at sleeplikeabear.com. That's a pricey model but they also sell LI Talatech 1" queen toppers in ILD's in:
Starting @ $172 and adding $15 for the 40ILD and 44ILD versions. Mine came with free shipping, I did pay $466 though! |
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phendyr wrote: after reading some more I've decided I'm going to look into surgery first on our existing mattress. going to make the cut tonight after work, hopefully hte springs are good enough to give it a try. Just so I understand what I've read correctly, those who've done the surgery, you simply remove all the padding and replace with various layers of latex? for someone looking to keep a firm feel to it, 2 layers of 1" firm latex with a 1" soft layer on top? Does anybody divide it into 'zones' for head, shoulders, back, hips, legs? I thought I read somewhere where a person had done this, but can't find it, I imagine that's a bit more expensive to purchase all the types and cut down to what you need. I will most likely stick rebuilding a firm bed with this first try
any feedback on the process I'd appreciate it..... was looking at rocky mountain for the layers. thanks I currently have over Sealy springs 2" of 32, 1" of 5lb. Sensus memory foam, 1" of 24, 1" of 4lb. memory foam. That might be a bit softer than what you want, so you may not need the memory foam (which is not that expensive at overstock, by the way). The latex I have is 100% natural talalay from Rockymountain. Dunlop usually feels firmer for the same ILD rating. I also cut out a zone just at my shoulder and put in a softer piece of custom latex there. That provides enough zoning for me. |