Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Mar 16, 2010 9:24 PM
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I discovered two tears in a latex topper I received. Would you consider this damage, or normal imperfections inherent to latex?

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #5 Mar 17, 2010 8:28 PM
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Narnia said: "I think their attitude sucks. I was a repeat customer, but needless to say I won't be a customer going forward."

This always the best choise it seems to me. Vote with our $'s.

That is one of the reasons sites like this one are so important. So us "Little People" can be heard. We get to have our say and many folks can read all about it. I would post there name. Board members are inteatled to know how companys threat there paying customers.

Thank you for posting!!cheeky

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Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #6 Mar 17, 2010 10:59 PM
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That's really low of them how they try to shield themelves from selling damaged latex by saying it's imperfect. I guess its the latex sellers' equivalent of PU foam sellers' 'your sagging mattress is not defective and your warranty says so so it must be true." angry

Then again, I don't know what 'imperfect' latex looks at as opposed to 'damaged' latex.  What is the difference, exactly?  If I bought damaged latex or imperfect latex, I'd be confused about which it was.

 

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #7 Mar 18, 2010 12:15 AM
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Yes, it is a hassle to return it, and so I can see why you might not want to. But in my opinion that is DAMAGE, not an imperfection. Please post who it is because I don't like their attitude and prefer not to buy from them. Yes, it's okay to post who it is.

If it is going to be enclosed the whole time, then I see little reason to return it. See, my layers often get changed around and none of them are enclosed, so then a tear like this does become an issue. You can buy special glue for foam to spray it and keep it closed but the glue is probably toxic to some extent. Also it makes a bit of a hard edge around the seam.

If it was me and it was going to remain enclosed I would not go to the trouble of returning it.

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #8 Mar 18, 2010 11:59 AM
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the first rip is definitely unusually large in terms of the length.  I really don't think these are going to effect the life of the product significantly.  I would ask for an exchange for another piece or even maybe a small credit.  My logic on this as follows if someone bought a topper from me....even if I don't think its defective, if its defective in my customers eyes then I will give them some options on what we could do to make them feel better about their purchase, id either offer to exchange it, or offer a credit of say maybe 10~30% depending on how minor or major the defect is to see if they would want to keep it. 
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Reply #9 Mar 18, 2010 12:45 PM
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I have had some small tears and little chunks torn out in a number of latex pieces.  Not as big as your tears though.  It has not botthered me, but I would worry about it getting larger when handling.   I glued one of mine to try to prevent further damage.  Not sure what the best type of glue to use though.
Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #10 Mar 18, 2010 2:57 PM
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I would like to know what company this is - we talk about specific companies all the time.  This is what we are here for, to discuss our options, look at people's set ups, and find the best companies to do business with.  It's not against the ruleds for US to name companies, we just don't want companies touting their services on this forum.

 

I'd like to know so that I can be sure not to purchase from them in the future.  I'd return it solely on the principle of thier approach and attitude.

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #11 Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM
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KimberlyH wrote:

I would like to know what company this is - we talk about specific companies all the time.  This is what we are here for, to discuss our options, look at people's set ups, and find the best companies to do business with.  It's not against the ruleds for US to name companies, we just don't want companies touting their services on this forum.

 

I'd like to know so that I can be sure not to purchase from them in the future.  I'd return it solely on the principle of thier approach and attitude.


I am in total agreement with Kimberly, that I would not do business with this company.

I would not do business with them, NOT because they sent a damaged piece of latex - that can happen with any company. But rather, the fact that they said in the future they will not guarantee that any piece is in better shape than this one so would not offer a return or anything on it. If they'd said, "Oh, sorry, we shouldn't have sent that out, we'll send you another one or offer you a discount", then I'd say "That's fair!" But to say that it is "just an imperfection" and not damaged, is b.s. imho.

I think it's up to them not to accept damaged latex from their supplier and to make sure it does not get damaged in their warehouse. So therefore they should not send out damaged latex.

I think a smaller tear, like maybe one inch or so, or a small "scoop" like my Dunlop piece has, is "imperfection", but THIS is damage, and I don't like their attitude about it.

Please tell us who it is.

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #12 Mar 18, 2010 4:33 PM
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I agree about stating what company, I did, so have others.  I already know who by my deductions.  But I can tell you if they can't at least discount it for a little I wouldn't do business with them again.  It is damage by a human's touch, so therefore why should you eat the cost?  I have eaten many of costs because of bad business so I understand your not wanting a hassle.

I get tired of some businesses attitude.  In these difficult economic times I refuse to put up with this attitude anymore.  I don't have money to burn.  If they choose not to cooperate they will lose business because the internet does spread truth about companies.

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Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #13 Mar 18, 2010 5:12 PM
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In the past she bought from rockymountainmattress and foamsweetfoam.   My guess if rockymountainmattress, since I also had a small tear in one the pieces I got from them.   I am not even sure they would inspect them.   They may come pre-packaged or drop shipped straight from Latex International. 
Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #14 Mar 19, 2010 10:00 PM
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sandman wrote:

In the past she bought from rockymountainmattress and foamsweetfoam.   My guess if rockymountainmattress, since I also had a small tear in one the pieces I got from them.   I am not even sure they would inspect them.   They may come pre-packaged or drop shipped straight from Latex International. 


I was thinking rockymountainmattress.

The thing is, it's up to them (whoever sold it) to inspect it and make sure it's good; OR to make it good when a report comes in that it is damaged. Especially when photos are taken and sent.

When I got substandard goods from SleepEZ, they were totally agreeable to making it up to me. They offered me a good settlement without my having to say what I wanted to do or anything, they just came up with a good offer, I jumped at it, and appreciated their willingness to "make it right". That is how business should be done, and because of it I will order from them again. But this company - whoever it is who sold these damaged goods - is taking the attitude that "damaged goods are okay."

So, I'll vote with my lack of business to them, to say "No, it's not."

Again, it's no big deal that it has a tear; what IS a big deal is not offering a discount or something in return for the damage, and accepting fault for it instead of saying, for all practical purposes, "That's the way we sell stuff, so in the future, we don't want to hear about it!"

If I may get on my soap box for a minute, this is the "new attitude" of U.S. businesses and I don't like it. It used to be that many businesses felt the "customer is always right" and that is, to me, what makes a good company. This new attitude reflects a short-sightedness. Instead of buidling good word-of-mouth like Flobeds and SleepEZ, they are building "bad word of mouth". That is short-sighted and NOT the way to build a business, especially in this age of internet forums and reviews.

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