Hello all, still on my hunt for a good bed. My wife and I were originally looking at a Kingsdown Sleep to Live 800 Series (red/blue), but after reading some reviews we were a little skid dish and decided to look at a latex bed. Now I know there are a lot of on-line companies like Sleepez and FloBeds, but buying a bed untested from an online retailer just is a little too inconvenient as we have to deal with shipping cost if we get the firmness wrong. So we went back to my local Sleepy’s to look at what they have to offer for latex beds. Turns our they just received the new line of Dr. Breus latex beds that same day which are made by IBC. We tried all five models and narrowed it down to two. As this is a brand new line of beds it is hard for me to find on-line detailed specs. I know the salesperson tells me the bed is entirely Talalay latex, but I would like to confirm that from another source. Does anyone have anything they can share on me these beds? Or if there are any other recommendations of other beds we should look at? Thanks all. Dan |
I looked at those also while at Sleepy's. They told me there is soy based foam on top in the comfort layers. I'm still learning, but that made me nervous about the potential for body impressions. The Pure Latex Bliss that they also carry seems like a better option since there is no poly or other foam except latex on top, but again, i'm still learning. Mike |
Thanks Phoenix and Reddog1970. I am just concerned without seeing all the specs that I would be getting mattress that contains more foam than latex and the as reddog1970 mentioned prone to body impressions. I am more inclined now to move towards the Pure Latex Bliss. They specs seem impressive, I did test a couple of them out, however they did not have the comfort top option for me to try. Any thoughts on this manufacturer? |
As much as I would like to get an all-latex mattress, similar to what cazual said about the comfort top missing from the LatexBliss, the LatexBliss mattresses seem too firm for me. The Dr. Breus Signature Elite feels very comfortable. I could not find any specs either, other than from the press release which states that it is made from foam with natural soy materials containing Talalay latex, how much latex is unknown. How natural this foam is, is also unknown. I found the following article, which makes me start to think that the foam is really mosty poly: http://oecotextiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/does-soy-based-foam-deliver-on-its-promise/ However, I am hesitant to purchase something custom-made from Flobeds or SleepEZ for example, unless I can physically try them out, as the comfort level may end up unsatisfactory like LatexBliss. This message was modified Nov 13, 2010 by rocco50
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FWIW ... Bob used to be a vice president of Latex International. He knows his latex. :) I also had several conversations with him and I was impressed with the way he customizes his mattresses to an individual using a type of manual zoning tailored to individual body makeup. Regarding the Dr Breus ... while I still haven't found the specs, from the descriptions I have read I would be pretty certain that there are significant layers of poly in it. They are available at 1800mattress in case you are seriously looking at it and need a price comparison. The soy based polyols are the least "green" of all the bio polyols that are available with castor oil being much more environmentally friendly. As the article says ... this is more about greenwashing than anything else ... even though it is a small step in the right direction. Phoenix |
Unfortunately Custom Sleep Design is located two hours away so I am not sure I'll be able to make it over there.. This message was modified Nov 13, 2010 by rocco50
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Do you think a poly mattress is still going to be significantly better than a coil-based Sterns & Foster Deacon Ridge? This message was modified Nov 13, 2010 by rocco50
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I am getting to the point of being tired of looking at mattresses, and just want to pick one :) I certainly understand that feeling :) A couple of suggestions though to make it less tiresome ... and more "accurate". First, I would use your experience at Sleepy's (and one or two other places) as a testing ground only. If you lay on a mattress that is too firm, then by knowing the stats of what you lay on you would be much closer to knowing what you need. This is why the latex bliss experience is helpful ... not because I would consider buying it. Make the first part of your search about knowing what fits you ... not deciding what to buy. Second, make a list of several places that look promising and then call them first. Ask them some specific questions such as "do you have (or make) a latex mattress in the range of 9" with less than an inch of poly in the comfort layers?". If their answer is yes, ask them the brands and models to confirm that you would have some choices (more than one). You are lucky here as NYC (and probably Brooklyn too) has quite a few good places within a reasonable distance which would be well worth going to. More than most other places in the US. If you narrow your search down to two or three places with good latex selection ... you will almost certainly end up knowing the specs of a mattress that is perfect for you. The advantage of places like this too is that they would tend to carry more reasonable options (besides just the majors) and know more about their mattresses (such as specs). Then ... when you know the specs of what is suitable for you ... you can decide if it is worth buying that mattress (or a similar construction) locally or ordering online with the comfort of knowing that you will be pretty close to your definition of perfect. As cumbersome as is sometimes is, if you do most of the work on the phone or internet and limit your travels to places that you know ahead of time have a range that would interest you, the whole experience will be a lot less tiring, faster, and you will end up with a lot better mattress. The most important part of this is to resist the "words" that some places will use to try to get you to go there. If they can't or won't answer your specific questions ... forget about them. A place that isn't open about the specific construction of their mattresses when you call them will likely try to sell you based on hype and they need you in the store to do that. It's not at all likely that you will find real value there. Phoenix |
Do you think a poly mattress is still going to be significantly better than a coil-based Sterns & Foster Deacon Ridge? The Stearns and Foster IS a poly mattress (the poly mattresses that are mostly mentioned here are almost all on top of springs) and is exactly what I personally would be trying to avoid. It's only good quality is that it has decent springs which would in no way be enough for me to consider it as a viable option. Phoenix PS: If you meant here latex mattress (rather than poly) ... then the answer is a clear and resounding YES ... whether it is a latex comfort layer on a latex core or latex on a good innerspring core. Even a latex comfort layer on a poly core would be much preferable to me. More than 1" of poly in the comfort layers (like the SF) is for me the most important thing to avoid in any mattress ... and even an inch is questionable given the choices that are out there. This message was modified Nov 13, 2010 by Phoenix
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Just to add to my last post ... if someone really wanted a poly mattress, then I would suggest going to a local manufacturer (or an outlet that sells them) who will help you choose innersprings and types of poly that would be much more suitable for you and your specific needs at a much lower cost. I would even use my "lay on bed research" to find out what I liked and then phone a manufacturer who was not local who could "duplicate" that specific model at a much lower cost. Even here I would consider this to be a "throw away" meaning that I would "trade" knowing that it will not likely keep it's qualities that long in exchange for a really low price ... knowing I would have to replace it much sooner than other types of construction. Phoenix |