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Good Luck really.

Marissa

Did you ever rotate your tempurpedic (it says in my manual that came with mine to not rate it) just curious?

I am sorry to hear your sleep problems with it but in my short experience with Breus beds, they are junk.

2nd night with my bed and still having morning back pain (nothing compared to the Breus bed, and a little better than my spring mattress these replaced) so tonight I will try to put something in between the box spring and mattress in my butt/back area, you may want to try something like this also (my wife hated the Breus bed also so maybe it will not work, maybe if we had the exact same Dr. Breus bed in the showroom I would not be complaining at all),  I can not get anything firmer, my wife does not like firm at all, but I think I need to just raise my back area up an inch or two, you may or may not need this but this is something we can do cause we do not have spring mattresses and these flex. 

I will keep this updated.

Thanks 

Don

PS:  I am rally sorry that anyone finds this forum out too late on a Dr. Breus bed purchase (It is a big gamble that you get a descent bed)  I will be posting my original comment with some modifications in the Sleepy's mattress section on the one I had and it will be 0 stars or whatever is minimum (and that still will not be low enough). 

We never had to rotate the tempurpedic. At the end before we bought the Dr. Breus, we did try, they are very heavy mattresses so it is good that we never needed to. We did buy one of the originals I thought it was 1989, but they weren't sold i n US till 1991 or 92 but we got a lot of years of great sleep and when we decided to get a new one a lot of family and friends still wanted to know if we were selling it because they wanted it(not a sales pitch. LOL). It was King size.

Marissa

The Dr. Breus Bed (Talalay Latex)
Original Message   Oct 25, 2010 8:51 pm

To hopefully shed some light on your original posted question(s), I would like to share what I have found while shopping these beds

1. “I know the salesperson tells me the bed is entirely Talalay latex…”

This is from the Dr Breus Website ( http://www.thesleepdoctor.com/the-dr-breus-bed/ )
“The Dr. Breus Bed™ is constructed using three primary ingredients: tempsense™, along with multiple layers of natural     Talalay Latex and High Density, Soy-based Poly-foams. These materials are manufactured in the United States… The Dr. Breus Bed™ has a 20 year limited warranty…”

2. The Talalay latex used in the beds are manufactured by Latex International. More info about sleeping on latex, and their website http://www.latexfoam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=81

3. The beds are manufactured by International Bedding http://www.ibcgroup.com/announcements/the-sleep-doctor-dr-michael-breus-releases-revolutionary-new-mattress-line

#4.  The Dr. Breus (or international bedding for that matter) are junk!!!!!!!!  There is absolutely no consistency with these beds in manufacturing!!!  These Dr. Breus beds are not worth any more than $1000 and that may be too high!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am finally starting to get used to my new RhapsodyBed by Tempur-Pedic, and I received my free pillows as promised by the 2nd Sleepy's salesperson!!  I know some have had bad luck with them but I have had great luck so far with Sleepy's!! I will keep this forum updated.

Glad your happy on your Tempurpedic and hope you get many years of quality sleep from it.

I had never really researched beds before I bought them in the past.  I just went into the store, and let the salesman tell me what he thought was a good mattress for the money.  This time out, I wanted to find something that I liked the feel of.  I started off looking at innerspring mattresses with pillow tops.  Several of my coworkers have Tempurpedics and had nothing but good things to say about them, so I was interested in finding out more about them too.  While researching memory foam, I also ended up reading a lot about latex (Talalay and Dunlap).  I liked what I read about the latex ones, and saw a few nice online sites.  I read that natural real rubber was better and lasted longer than polyurethane foam mattresses.  I came close to ordering one, but couldn't bring myself to do it without getting to test one out in person before buying.  But, it made me look for anything labeled latex as I looked for a bed. 

So, while I was in one store trying out the plushest pillow tops, I layed on some Dr Breus beds.  Wow!  Talk about the weightless soft feeling that some mattresses brag about.  I loved the way the Dr. Breus Monogram Gold felt.  And then a salesman came up and told me that it was made of Talalay foam with a natural foam core.  A soy based foam....  In hind site, soy based doesn't even make sense.  Foam made from rubber does. 

I bought the Dr. Breus and couldn't wait to sleep on it.  When I got it, I thought it didn't feel like the one in the store.  I was disapointed.  I went back to the store and laid on the floor model again, and told my salesman what I thought.  He assured me that it would feel the same after I broke mine in.  So, I went back home to try it out some more.  While doing so, I looked at the tag.  I know I should have done that while I was in the store, and everyone that read this thread knows what I saw there.  Over 70% Polyurethane.  To me that meant that it was a much cheaper bed to make than it was being sold for.  And, the value of the bed means something to me too.  I felt like I paid more than it was worth, and it didn't feel the same as the floor model.  But, at least it has the 15 year warranty.  And I had 60 days to make sure I was happy with it. 

After one month I could feel an impression in the spot I slept in.  If I took off the sheets and mattress cover there was no visible impression.  It was just something I felt when I laid on it.  So, when it comes to warranty issues, do they measure visible sags or ones you can feel?  My guess was that this bed could have invisible impressions and might not be covered under warranty.  Just a guess on my part.  But, regardless, I knew I didn't want it if I was feeling this in one month.

I returned mine.  I don't think it was made of good material.  It didn't feel like the one in the store.  And I felt an impression where I slept.  I had also written a couple emails to Dr Breus web site, and to International Bedding asking for more detail on the construction.  I didn't get any answers, but International Bedding site did acknowledge reciept of my email.

But, it's also a polyurethane foam bed.  The tag on my Tempur-Pedic says 56% Visco Elastic Polyurethane Foam and 43% Polyurethane Foam.

I haven't had it as long as the Dr Breus bed yet, no complaints yet, and I don't think I'm going to feel an impression in less than a month like I did with the Breus.

While I'm a newby to this forum and as well as the DIY mattress symposium, I would like to offer my comments on the matter. If the customer is sold any product by misleading means then the seller has a responsibility to make said product right by the customer. That means a refund of the full price or some recompense depending on the customer's wishes. I would like to state, that I recently purchased one of these beds. I've been sleeping on a wave less-water bed for nearly 30 years. While they provide good support the minuses became too much. So I went looking for a new mattress that would offer the same support as a water bed mattress as well as allow me to keep the expensive frame and headboard from the waterbed. For those not in the know concerning water beads and their foundation systems, I would like to provide some insight. I have two sets of draws under a very substantial frame. The frame consists of 3 sections of 1/2" ply with 4 2"x8" wood sides attached to the plywood.

So I had to have a replacement solution that not only provided a similar experience to a waterbed (comfort and support) but allow me to insert the mattress into the existing waterbed frame. Once I determined the frame size was a Cal King, I then tried to find the appropriate mattress.

Mattress shopping is akin to root canals and media blitzing. Every mattress store had the best solution. Even though the customer can see a varied selection, it's extremely hard, if not impossible to compare apples to apples. Finally after 4 days of hard shopping I found a place that was willing to try and provide me with the needed information to allow me to make a somewhat educated decision.

I bought, for better or worse, a Dr Breus bed. The sales person didn't try to sell me the bed as a total latex bed solution. I was told what comprised mattress content and allowed to make the decision based on those facts. I understood the purchase and was afforded a price similar to a higher end coiled system bed. So I don't feel I was sold a pig-in-a-poke.

Should I find this system doesn't meet my needs. I'll return it for a refund and look into designing a latex style mattress. I'm not sure that I have a problem with utilizing other foams in conjunction with latex to keep the costs down while providing the best comfort for the least amount of time and resources spent (best bang for my buck).

So I would like some constructive feedback from the varied cornucopia of knowledge contained by the folks on this forum.

The wife and I are back and side sleepers. Were both passed middle age and I'm over 6” tall. She is only 5” 6”. We've grown into what most folks call the late middle aged form. I've always been a large guy (played the line in football).

Thanks and sorry for possible being to verbose.....