Dunlop vs. Talalay
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I know that dunlop and talalay are two different processes for producing latex mattresses (and other latex products). My question involves firmness. I've read that talalay feels airier and not quite as supportive as dunlop. My specific question is if you have two different mattresses, one made from the dunlop process and the other from the talalay process and they are both the same ILD, does dunlop feel or present as more supportive than talalay? I hope I'm making sense. Thank you, Jay |
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Thank you all for your great responses. Eagle, your spot on and wonderfully thoughtful, as usual. Bill, as to your comment about being able to find a place to try out the various latex options, it's easier said than done. There are two foam stores in the Boston area, one sells only polyfoam and the other sells both latex and polyfoam but they don't have mattresses in the store to try out. They have samples of the foam that you can feel between your hands but there is nothing to lie down on. You pick the foam from their "hand samples" and then they send out the order to a local factory who assemble the mattress. Any other ideas are welcome. I think I might just have to do what eagle is suggesting and bite the bullet and go with one of the companies that has a flexible return policy. Thank you. Jay |
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enlighten wrote: Thank you all for your great responses. Eagle, your spot on and wonderfully thoughtful, as usual. Bill, as to your comment about being able to find a place to try out the various latex options, it's easier said than done. There are two foam stores in the Boston area, one sells only polyfoam and the other sells both latex and polyfoam but they don't have mattresses in the store to try out. They have samples of the foam that you can feel between your hands but there is nothing to lie down on. You pick the foam from their "hand samples" and then they send out the order to a local factory who assemble the mattress. Any other ideas are welcome. I think I might just have to do what eagle is suggesting and bite the bullet and go with one of the companies that has a flexible return policy. Thank you. Jay Jay: Savvy Rest, unlike so many online stores, uses dealers. I went to one out of state and was less than satisfied. But there are all kinds of dealers. If one is close to you, you might give them a call and see how many beds they have that you could try out. Savvy Rest sells both Dunlop and Talalay. And you don't have to buy from them, just test out the mattress. Savvy Rest does not have a return policy, only a exchange policy for 90 days and their shipping charges are rather high. However, I feel that they are a good company with a good product, as per the posts on this forum. In any event here is a link to their website showing the various dealers around the country. Possibly one of them is not that great a distance from you. http://www.savvyrest.com/order/find-a-dealer Feeling samples of latex or any other kind of foam between your hands is next to useless, in my opinion. In fact it can even be quite deceptive. For instance. The samples of Talalay that I received from two different suppliers felt very soft compared to Dunlop. So much so that I was convinced I needed Dunlop in my mattress to have a firm enough mattress to sleep on. After a great deal of, "this and that" and you name it, I finally bought from FloBeds an all Talalay mattress. The experience of laying on this compared to trying to make a determination by feeling 3 inch sample blocks of foam, is greater than "night and day" you really need to lay on a mattress to make any kind of a determination. And even then it's not going to be the same as sleeping on one for several nights. But it beats the heck out of just reading and feeling samples. If you want more details on this you can read my thread "Just bought a FloBeds" Good Luck! This message was modified Oct 1, 2009 by eagle2
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eagle2 wrote: Jay: Savvy Rest, unlike so many online stores, uses dealers. I went to one out of state and was less than satisfied. But there are all kinds of dealers. If one is close to you, you might give them a call and see how many beds they have that you could try out. Savvy Rest sells both Dunlop and Talalay. And you don't have to buy from them, just test out the mattress.<BR><BR>Savvy Rest does not have a return policy, only a exchange policy for 90 days and their shipping charges are rather high. However, I feel that they are a good company with a good product, as per the posts on this forum. In any event here is a link to their website showing the various dealers around the country. Possibly one of them is not that great a distance from you. http://www.savvyrest.com/order/find-a-dealer<BR><BR>Feeling samples of latex or any other kind of foam between your hands is next to useless, in my opinion. In fact it can even be quite deceptive. For instance. The samples of Talalay that I received from two different suppliers felt very soft compared to Dunlop. So much so that I was convinced I needed Dunlop in my mattress to have a firm enough mattress to sleep on. After a great deal of, "this and that" and you name it, I finally bought from FloBeds an all Talalay mattress. The experience of laying on this compared to trying to make a determination by feeling 3 inch sample blocks of foam, is greater than "night and day" you really need to lay on a mattress to make any kind of a determination. And even then it's not going to be the same as sleeping on one for several nights. But it beats the heck out of just reading and feeling samples. If you want more details on this you can read my thread "Just bought a FloBeds"<BR><BR>Good Luck! Great eagle! I will check out Savvy Rest and read through your thread. I just returned from a foam store in Boston and was finally able to gather some facts about the mattress that I currently own. They only had talalay samples at this store and I realized by handling them how different talalay is than what I have at home. I realize now that I have been sleeping on dunlop latex for the past 12 plus years. Talalay is so much spongier and lighter than dunlop. My dunlop mattress is very heavy and has a very different rebounding action than the talalay latex. I learned that if I go the talalay route I'll go firmer rather than softer. Thank you again for all your help eagle. Jay |
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Jay: You are welcome. It sure would be nice if more people would post back after receiving information that was helpful to them. It just seems that we get a lot of posters who come and ask questions, in many cases get some kind of helpful response, and never come back and let us know how things worked out. Dunlop is an entirely different process from Talalay as you know. And I have never slept on a Dunlop mattress. But I was very surprised once I had slept on a Talalay mattress how firm Talalay can feel. Now I only have two sides to a California King, one side being medium, over firm, over extra firm, and the other side being firm, over extra firm, over extra firm. So both sides are definitely on the firm side. But having said that, I must say that Talalay is a much more supportive material than I had assumed, based on what I have read on this forum and from squeezing those little 3 inch foam blocks. I was totally convinced in my own mind that I had to have some Dunlop in my mattress to get a firm enough configuration. This is most assuredly not true. Good luck in the great "What the best mattress guessing game!"  |