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It's time to buy a new mattress and I remember about 4 years ago I had stayed at a fancy hotel and really liked their mattress. It turned out to be an Englander but the model of that one was not available and I couldn't get any info on it to compare it to the ones that were available. My question is, has anyone here had an Englander? Should I consider one? |
| So waht I am hearing is that there is not much "science" to this, it's just luck of the draw. You try the coils you have or buy and see how they feel... It's difficult to say which coil guage and count will give you the results you want... |
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If you are looking for a good night's sleep, proper sleep posture is everything. Your mattress should help you obtain the proper posture for your position.
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jimsocal wrote: So you are saying coil spring mattresses are never firm, that any firmness they have is always due to hard foam on top of them? But aren't some coils by nature softer than other coils? Isn't a lighter guage coil softer than a harder guage coil? And doesn't it also depend on how the coils are tied together, how much wire is used in between then, and how many coils there are? So what I was saying was that a high guage coil mattress (such as Englander? no?) might provide a good base to provide some "give" for a side sleeper, but with a latex or latex+memory foam topper...? I'm not clear on what you said in your post. I am probably going to go with pure foam. But IF I go with a coil spring as a base for my own system of topper(s), what is a good hard coil mattress base to start with (no topper)? Don't get me wrong. There are coils that are firmer than others. Most of the firmer mattresses do rely on harder layers of upholstery to add firmness. But aren't some coils by nature softer than other coils? Yes Isn't a lighter guage coil softer than a harder guage coil? You can generalize if they are the same design and number of coils. And doesn't it also depend on how the coils are tied together, how much wire is used in between then, and how many coils there are? Yes, design differences will make a coil firmer or softer. There are many different aspects of coil design that come into play. I'm not clear on what you said in your post. I am probably going to go with pure foam. But IF I go with a coil spring as a base for my own system of topper(s), what is a good hard coil mattress base to start with (no topper)? It is always best to buy the right mattress for your needs the first time around. Getting one to add to at a later is like intentionally making the wrond decision the first time.
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| Englander makes a mattress line called The Lady Englander (which may now be called their 21st Century line) and it supposedly has some of the beefiest springs out there. Englander's warranty on these mattresses is 20 years. This line comes in several different models, so if you got a pretty basic one without a lot of padding, you could add a topper or two and have a bed that would (hopefully) last you a long time. I disagree that you would be intentionally making the wrong decision, as I think it's better to add your own comfort layer and be able to replace it if it wears out instead of being stuck with a sagging pillowtop and having to toss the whole mattress. |
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If you are looking for a good night's sleep, proper sleep posture is everything. Your mattress should help you obtain the proper posture for your position.
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kimmcgov wrote: Englander makes a mattress line called The Lady Englander (which may now be called their 21st Century line) and it supposedly has some of the beefiest springs out there. Englander's warranty on these mattresses is 20 years. This line comes in several different models, so if you got a pretty basic one without a lot of padding, you could add a topper or two and have a bed that would (hopefully) last you a long time. I disagree that you would be intentionally making the wrong decision, as I think it's better to add your own comfort layer and be able to replace it if it wears out instead of being stuck with a sagging pillowtop and having to toss the whole mattress.
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We ended up with an Englander Tension Ease (pocketed coil) model that is firm/firm plush and are looking for the perfect comfort layer for it. We almost bought the Lady Englander because of the heavy duty springs, but then decided to go for a latex mattress from another store. When the latex didn’t work out, we were locked into a comfort exchange from this same store which did not carry the Lady Englander line. Since pillowtops and mattresses with a lot of padding built in (according to hundreds of online reviews and complaints) end up breaking down in a short amount of time, we decided to add our own. The salesperson told us that he has had several people do the same thing: buying a firm innerspring then customizing the top layer themselves. It seems that if you were a heavy person, and found that latex or memory foam didn’t work for you, that the Englander might be a good bet, as the Lady Englander mattress has a coil gauge of 12.5 compared to the Simmons Beautyrest which has 15 gauge coils (lower number = heavier coil). The mattress we have has a 13.5 gauge coil and since we are lighter people I'm hoping that it's fine. The mattress is very supportive and has almost no motion transfer and is actually very comfy right now with our PU camping pads on top as a temporary solution for the cushion layer. |