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Hi. I've been on and off this forum for a few years. In 2007, I bought a Vera Wang latex mattress & box spring, medium firmness, from Sleepys. My grilfriend at the time loved it. I didn't find it as wonderful. I thought it slept hot and I'd wake up with back pains some nights. Due to handful of moves, etc, that mattress (and girlfriend)is now gone and I'm in need of a new one (on both accounts :). As I posted in another thread, I'm looking at either the Coco-Mat mattress, which I can pick up in a store locally in NYC, or going with Flobeds. I've read a lot about Flobeds over the years on this board and the one thing I consistently hear is that the reccomended firmness is often way too soft. I'm a stomach sleeper and do prefer a firmer bed (although nothing rock-hard as some folks here need). I'm a small'ish guy. 5'7", 145 lbs. I was thinking either M/F/F, M/F/XF or F/F/XF is likely the right place to start. (Flobeds website reccomends the M/F/F). Anyone have thoughts/advice on where to start? Also, if one were to choose to remove the convoluted topper from the Flobeds case, does it cause any problem (i.e. does it make the case too big for the overall mattress and cause things to move around or feel uncomfortable)? Would you need to replace the topper with more latex? Thanks in advance..
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Sorry to hear you're having such a hard time getting the layers right! I'm using xf/xf/xf (all 36 ILD) and that's quite firm, and working well for me. Also, what are you using for your foundation? The foundation can make a difference in how the bed feels. Make sure your foundation is very firm. Having said that, there are some people who just don't "take" to the feel of a latex bed, is it possible you're one of these people? |
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Hi Alex, I would trust your instincts and go with what you think would work. Give it a good try and if it doesn't, get a refund. That's the great thing about Flobeds, and the main reason I chose them over Saavyrest or others. Even though I now like a fairly soft bed because I need it for pressure point and nerve problems, I also need really good lower back support. I went a lot firmer than recommended, and I did the unusual thing of putting a firm right under the first soft layer. You probably have read some other posts here of people who went very firm, even if they were lightweight. I've slept on Dunlop beds (an original Sears one s a child, decades ago, another one as a young adult, and then a very thin, very firm one for years before I got the Flobed last year.) I agree you can't just compare ILDs. Dunlop and Talalay have a different feeling altogether. And to be honest, as much as I like Flobeds as a company, and I am fine with my bed, I still would probably choose Dunlop, all other things being equal...but they aren't in many ways (not only return policies but also in terms of smells and processing, and since I have a lot of allergies, I was more comfortable with IL all-natural talalay; some of the dunlop I tired had smells that bothered me). Also the quality of dunlop varies with different manufacturers. I did lie on 2 dunlop beds in stores before choosing Folbeds. One was a Saavyrest. The other I can't remember though I really liked the bed (but they didn't even allow exchanges! At least Saavy does, but I wasn't willing to go with either company without the possibility of returning it if it didn't work.. they may well have gotten my business if they had). btw, as kimberly said, the foundation can make a big difference, at least it did for me. I had ot change form flexible European slats (which were good with my super firm dunlop matress) to firm wooden slats. Putting softer layers under firmer layers didn't work at all for me at all--way too bouncy, although I know this is sometimes recommended. I like a very firm on the bottom and then adjust form there depending on body needs and preferences. Sending back a core (or more) is pretty easy. Much easier than rearranging on the bed. I dealt mostly with Dave at Flobeds and he was excellent. As for pillows, I bought the shredded natural talalay from Flobeds when I got my mattress. I took out at least 1/3 of the foam (the nice thing about their pillows is they are adjustable). Although I've always preferred down, the latex pillow supports my neck better when lying on my side, but the down is better when I'm on my back as it crushes flatter. I've also foung that the softer the mattress, the lower and softer the pillow I need. When I had a super hard bed, I needed a higher pillow when lying on my side as my shoulder didn't go down into the mattress as much. Good luck! |
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linda wrote: Hi Alex,
I would trust your instincts and go with what you think would work. Give it a good try and if it doesn't, get a refund. That's the great thing about Flobeds, and the main reason I chose them over Saavyrest or others. Even though I now like a fairly soft bed because I need it for pressure point and nerve problems, I also need really good lower back support. I went a lot firmer than recommended, and I did the unusual thing of putting a firm right under the first soft layer. You probably have read some other posts here of people who went very firm, even if they were lightweight. I've slept on Dunlop beds (an original Sears one s a child, decades ago, another one as a young adult, and then a very thin, very firm one for years before I got the Flobed last year.) I agree you can't just compare ILDs. Dunlop and Talalay have a different feeling altogether. And to be honest, as much as I like Flobeds as a company, and I am fine with my bed, I still would probably choose Dunlop, all other things being equal...but they aren't in many ways (not only return policies but also in terms of smells and processing, and since I have a lot of allergies, I was more comfortable with IL all-natural talalay; some of the dunlop I tired had smells that bothered me). Also the quality of dunlop varies with different manufacturers. I did lie on 2 dunlop beds in stores before choosing Folbeds. One was a Saavyrest. The other I can't remember though I really liked the bed (but they didn't even allow exchanges! At least Saavy does, but I wasn't willing to go with either company without the possibility of returning it if it didn't work.. they may well have gotten my business if they had). btw, as kimberly said, the foundation can make a big difference, at least it did for me. I had ot change form flexible European slats (which were good with my super firm dunlop matress) to firm wooden slats. Putting softer layers under firmer layers didn't work at all for me at all--way too bouncy, although I know this is sometimes recommended. I like a very firm on the bottom and then adjust form there depending on body needs and preferences. Sending back a core (or more) is pretty easy. Much easier than rearranging on the bed. I dealt mostly with Dave at Flobeds and he was excellent. As for pillows, I bought the shredded natural talalay from Flobeds when I got my mattress. I took out at least 1/3 of the foam (the nice thing about their pillows is they are adjustable). Although I've always preferred down, the latex pillow supports my neck better when lying on my side, but the down is better when I'm on my back as it crushes flatter. I've also foung that the softer the mattress, the lower and softer the pillow I need. When I had a super hard bed, I needed a higher pillow when lying on my side as my shoulder didn't go down into the mattress as much. Good luck! |
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