That is such good news you were able to put it on your metal frame without any problem. With the 2000t's extra deep pine frame on the box springs, I have been a little concerned about the weight. Thank you for sharing that! We felt the same way you did when we got onto the 2000t---major WOW factor. It was like being on a cloud. Even the firm felt that way. I'm concerned I might drown in the medium, but that's what you bought and you are a big guy, so maybe we need to go try the medium 2000t again! The 25 year spring guarantee sounds great, but I do wonder about the fabric after all that time, and should ask them about that. The top of the mattress, underneath the horsehair topper, is elasticized material, isn't it? I wonder how that is going to hold up over time. I haven't had very good luck with elasticized things lasting a very long time. Have you ever had any back problems in the past? I have had some L4-L5 problems in the past, and have been a little concerned about the individual coils possibly not being supportive enough in the long run. They are definitely very, very comfortable..... And there are three layers of springs in that thing! We love the idea of NO chemicals in this bed. Is your horsehair topper flattening out at all? Do you have to fluff it a lot? Sounds like after 7 weeks, the WOW factor is still there for you! |
Actually the bed gets better, the top piece has flattened out, and we do nothing to it except turning and flipping it. When we turn the bed we sort of wad it up and throw it on the floor- a mini-massage I guess. I would say the bed gets firmer as time goes on, I wanted the firm but my wife is 97-100 lbs and it was too hard for her. So we compromised and I am glad we did. When we turn it she walks all over the mattress without the top piece on it, mattress massage and a little excersise for her-lol. Last week we were in Vancouver BC and we stay at the Fairmont Vancouver Hotel 5-star and they have some excellent beds, but I missed my bed at home, I was surprised as I used to think thiers were about the best. The price of the bed is, as I said absurd, the only downside, but I think the price is justified for the quality and long term durability. Apperently many Europeans sleep on 80-100 yr old Hastens beds today, an heirloom sort of. I have had back problems for years and used to be careful just getting out of bed, roll on my side and slowly sit up, then attempt to stand up. This was a month ago- now I get out of bed. I know this sounds stupid, but it is a very positive thing in my life. But It is JUST a bed, after all. |
Great post,finally somebody talking about Hastens. I'm about to buy an Excelsior but the matter of "medium or firm" is killing me.... Assuming that I'm 6.0 and 171lbs, what do you think the best bet would be ???? Now you say " go and try one",but living on a small island out in the mediterranean sea it becomes quite complicated all the time to catch a flight to the Hastens Store in Rome,or at least I don't want to fly to Rome just for a damn bed !! Anyway,how medium is a medium Excelsior?? Do you sink on the top but at the same time you feel sustained in the deep? Any hammocking feel? The idea of sinking a bit does not bother,the point is what makes you sink? the top little mattres (bj or bjx) or the mattress itself? In this case then if I buy a firm Excelsior will I still feel the sinking sensation from the top ?. To make a long story short,wich type of firmness you need to have in order to feel the "sleep on a cloud feeling"? the "no pressure on hips and shoulders" feeling? Thanks anyone for any input. p.s. I'm green with envy about your 2000T This message was modified Sep 25, 2007 by Need4sleep
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I think at 6 foot, 171 lb, that the medium would be best. The Excelsior is firmer feeling than the 2000T. When I was investigating Hastens a while back, the representative I was talking with indicated they would recommend the firm only to individuals over 200 lb. DianeK |
Buying a mattress is a very subjective thing, what I like may not be what you like. Concidering the price of Hastens beds, i think is worth your time to judge for yourself, spend the day there if you have to. The ticket will cost much less than the mattress. I tend to agree with Dianek in that the medium may be ok for you. I am 260 and 6'+ and it is good for me. I thought I made a mistake for a month or so-true. I was so upset with myself- lots of money. But the mattress settled in and I am completely happy with it. The salesman told me that I would hate him for a month- he was right-no death threats but close-lol. |
I own a company called Sleep etc., and I am the Hastens Dealer in CT. In fact, I am was the first Hastens dealer in the US, so I am well qualified to provide accurate information and comparisons. To answer the question of "which firmness to buy", the answer is of course dependant of which firmness is comfortable to you, but I would put the most weight on the spring unit that is tensioned correctly to keep your spine aligned properly. If you are lying on your side, your shoulders and hips should sink in, but you should not hammock into the bed. If you drew a line down your spine from between your shoulder blades down to your but, the line should be straight. On a mattress that is too hard, there will be a curve to your spine. If the mattress is too soft, you will hammock into it and there will be a curve to your spine. The person who was 177lbs, would be best matched with the Hastens medium. The gauge of the wire and the tension of the coils will keep that persons spine the straightest.
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Hello, I've been sleeping on a Hastens Naturally for a few years now and they are great beds. I wish I could have afforded the Excelsior as I think it's more comfortable then the 2000T (or at least was a few years ago.) I would go for the medium. Best Wishes |
Hello, I am a Hastens Rep in Toronto Canada, I aggree with my CT friend, a hastens is a comfort thing, suport is there in every bed the suport that is right for you , is what we help you find. The quilty of steel we use in our beds is stronger an treated so that in 25 years the springs will remain in place and will be doing the same great job. This company has been around for over 180 years, we are not a 10year old company with a 25 year waranty. |