Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Feb 29, 2008 12:26 AM
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I can't remember who ordered the Carpenter Dream Coil PU topper from Penneys besides me. I'm wondering if you had a chance to try it out. If so, how did you like it...or not? Mine is still in the package. I just haven't felt like adding another topper to my mattress right now. It's been feeling too good to mess with it! :) But, I don't think I'll take it back. If I don't end up using it on top of our bed, I can either cut it and use it inside, or maybe as a camping pad. I think my back will respond better to a PU foam topper vs. memory foam or latex.
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #2 Feb 29, 2008 10:08 PM
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Okay! I thought it might by you who bought it around the same time I did. I was hoping that the Dream Coil would be a bit firmer than the Brylane latex. As you know, I promptly returned that without even sleeping on it. I just knew it was going to be too soft on my back. But, are you saying that the Dream Coil is as soft as that? The thing that bothered me about the Brylane (and all soft latex) is how they jiggle when I move. I like something a little more steady feeling. I don't like to feel as if my hips are sinking in and it would be an effort to turn. Or my lower back would do the same thing and I would awaken with pain. I liked the pad that was on my mattress when I was in the hospital. It wasn't memory foam, nor do I think it was latex. Probably PU and maybe even that GEO foam or whatever it's called. Anyway, I guess I should try out the Dream Coil for myself, right? :-)

Thanks again and good luck with whatever ends up working the best for you.


kimmcgov wrote:
BeddyBye, <BR><BR>I also bought the Dream Coil topper. I did try it out and it felt pretty good but I need to try it again with a slightly firmer layer underneath. <BR><BR>Right now we are back on the 1 inch Brylane latex topper. This was also too soft alone on the mattress, but we have been experimenting with whatever we have around the house and have been using our Thermarest camping pads as a temporary topper. These are self-inflating pads, that you can get from REI or any outdoor store, that have a layer of closed-cell foam inside. They only need a few puffs to get them pretty firm then you can let out the air to dial them in to your desired softness. It's a kind of poor man's Sleep By Numbers ;-)<BR><BR>With the Brylane topper, it's been the comfiest set up so far. I need to take one of the pads down to our local foam store and try to match up the firmness of it with a piece of PU foam though. The pads are only 27 inches wide (although they do come 30 inches wide), and don't quite cover the queen size bed. With a nozzle sticking out, it feels a little &quot;makeshift&quot;.<BR><BR>I'll try the Dream Coil topper again when I get some firm foam for underneath. In any case, I also think I'll keep it -- on top of the Thermarests it will make for a pretty cushy camping set up.
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #3 Feb 29, 2008 11:05 PM
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I like the Bylane Topper over very firm Latex (39 ILD) over firmer latex cores underneath and a slat box.  I still want one more 39 ILD to put under the 39 ILd over the 44 ILD rather than the 36 ILD I have now. This set up makes the 1" latex topper feel cushy but supportive.  It was way too soft giving me back pain when it was on top of a 34.2 ILD latex core over the 39 ILD latex core over the 44 ILD latex core.

I still can't understand how anyone can sleep on top of polyurethane but I guess you do not have allergies to it like I do so that is not an issue.

Please let us all know how the Dream Coil Topper is after more time for others without allergies.

Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #4 Mar 1, 2008 12:43 AM
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BeddyBye wrote:
Okay! I thought it might by you who bought it around the same time I did. I was hoping that the Dream Coil would be a bit firmer than the Brylane latex. As you know, I promptly returned that without even sleeping on it. I just knew it was going to be too soft on my back. But, are you saying that the Dream Coil is as soft as that?

The Dream Coil is not as soft as the Brylane topper. The first night we tried it, I felt that it might be the perfect thing, but then my back started hurting again. It's mostly because it needs a slightly firmer surface beneath and I will try it again, but right now I'm so sick of making and unmaking the bed every time I experiment with something different.

You should definitely try it. Give it a good airing out first, though, as it had quite a strong oder right out of the plastic package. I'll be interested to know what you think of it.
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #5 Mar 1, 2008 1:46 AM
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I know what you mean about being sick of making and remaking the bed each time you try a new configuration. It's exhausting! You would think we would fall right into bed after that, all tuckered out. :) No such luck. Usually a back ache is just exacerbated. Sigh. I think that's one of the reasons I'm procrastinating about trying out the Dream Coil topper. At least it doesn't involved unzipping my mattress and taking THAT apart. But, since my mattress is feeling pretty darn good now, that's another reason I'm in no huge rush to try out the topper yet. One of these days I'll unpack it and stick it on the bed! I'm glad it's not as soft as the Brylane.

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kimmcgov wrote:
The Dream Coil is not as soft as the Brylane topper. The first night we tried it, I felt that it might be the perfect thing, but then my back started hurting again. It's mostly because it needs a slightly firmer surface beneath and I will try it again, but right now I'm so sick of making and unmaking the bed every time I experiment with something different.<BR><BR>You should definitely try it. Give it a good airing out first, though, as it had quite a strong oder right out of the plastic package. I'll be interested to know what you think of it.
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Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #6 Mar 1, 2008 3:10 PM
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BeddyBye wrote:
I know what you mean about being sick of making and remaking the bed each time you try a new configuration. It's exhausting! You would think we would fall right into bed after that, all tuckered out. :) No such luck. Usually a back ache is just exacerbated. Sigh. I think that's one of the reasons I'm procrastinating about trying out the Dream Coil topper. At least it doesn't involved unzipping my mattress and taking THAT apart. But, since my mattress is feeling pretty darn good now, that's another reason I'm in no huge rush to try out the topper yet. One of these days I'll unpack it and stick it on the bed! I'm glad it's not as soft as the Brylane.

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kimmcgov wrote:
...right now I'm so sick of making and unmaking the bed every time I experiment with something different.<BR><BR>You should definitely try it. Give it a good airing out first, though, as it had quite a strong oder right out of the plastic package. I'll be interested to know what you think of it.

LOL! Me, too! I'm re-making my mattress about every single day! My back and shoulders have been killing me and I am just trying to get it better...

Let me know if you try the JCP topper. I have some gift cards from there and would buy one of their toppers if I thought it would be different than the collection of thins I have. This is the one with the PU bottom AND latex  top, that you are talking about at JCP?

This is what I currently have:
- 2 x 3/4 latex toppers. I am not sure of the ILD but I think they are maybe 24 or so. Even though they are soft, they don't feel soft enough - maybe it's the "pushing back" feeling.
- a 1" egg crate type pu topper which actually is not as soft as I wish it was!
- some reach soft PU foam that came out of the Sealy (actually I am trying one of these as a topper tonight because the egg crate pu is not as soft as I'd like. I think I might have something like fibromyalgia because what I've read about it, people seem to find nothing that is soft enough. That's how I feel. I want the softness, yet my back can't take too much softness!
- a 3/4" memory foam which also is not as soft as I'd like, or maybe not thick and soft enough.

I'm thinking maybe a 3lb x 1-and-1/2" memory foam might help me out. But all I have is a 3" of such and it's too unsupportive for my back.
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #7 Mar 1, 2008 3:52 PM
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Jim, I ordered the zoned latex topper you mention from JCP as well as the PU Dream Coil topper. It is maybe 1.5 inches of convoluted/egg crate PU foam with a half inch of latex laminated on top. It seemed kind of soft directly on the mattress, but with a firmer layer, I'll try it again. All of these toppers need a slightly firmer base -- for my comfort level anyway. It could be just right for you though, along with perhaps one of your latex pieces.

A word of warning though: the PU foam is also perforated and some of the cores from the holes and little pieces of foam were still in the topper waiting to fall out and fly all over our bedroom when I took it out of the package. So take it out and shake it out outside or somewhere you won't mind getting bits of "foam fluff" all over the place...

I'm not sure what kind of latex this topper has. It looks quite different from the Brylane topper. The latex on the JCP topper is more buttery looking and feeling, while the Brylane topper (which I know is Talalay) is dryer and spongier looking. If you order it, I'd be interested in knowing what you think it is (Dunlop, maybe, or all natural?).
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #8 Mar 1, 2008 6:05 PM
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Last night was the first time in awhile that I've tossed and turned in pain. Not sure why. I walked my dogs for two hours yesterday and stretched. But if anything, you'd think that would be better for my back. I noticed one thing---I took part in this 3 week study (9 visits) at Curves so I was doing some moderate exercise every other day. Even though my sacroiliac would often hurt while I was on the machines...I noticed later the benefits from the exercise seemed to help. I wasn't in as much chronic pain. Hmmmmm...do you THINK it might be a good idea to move this ol' bod around some more and stop blaming the mattress? ME thinks so! :) Seriously, I'm only 57 and I can remember my grandmother at age 91 being more limber than me! I need to pay heed.


kimmcgov wrote:
The Dream Coil is not as soft as the Brylane topper. The first night we tried it, I felt that it might be the perfect thing, but then my back started hurting again. It's mostly because it needs a slightly firmer surface beneath and I will try it again, but right now I'm so sick of making and unmaking the bed every time I experiment with something different.<BR><BR>You should definitely try it. Give it a good airing out first, though, as it had quite a strong oder right out of the plastic package. I'll be interested to know what you think of it.
Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #9 Mar 2, 2008 12:22 AM
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Well, I needed to change the sheets today so I went ahead and put the Carpenter Dream Coil topper on. I'm not sure if my side of the bed will be too soft for it, but I'll find out tonight. My husband's configuration is a bit firmer and might be a better match. We'll see!

The inside of his mattress is from the bottom up:


LuraFlex coils surrounded by a high density firm PU foam edge

55 ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
45 ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
44 ILD talalay latex 1 inch

Zippered quilted cover with fiberfil


My mattress:

LuraFlex coils surrounded by high density firm PU edge

55ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
32 ILD talalay latex 1 inch
32 ILD talalay latex 1 inch

Zippered quilted cover with fiberfil

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I'll see how it goes tonight and I may just exchange a 32 ILD latex for a 44 ILD and leave the 55 ILD PU foam in as the base. Or I could do the same configuration as my husband's, but would prefer to stay with 2" of latex if I can. I'll report back.

By the way, what type of feel would I get if I were to put the 44 ILD on TOP of the 32 ILD latex, as opposed to the other way around? I know Lynn might have mentioned doing it that way.
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Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet? I finally did and I liked it!
Reply #10 Mar 2, 2008 2:41 PM
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I slept on the Dream Coil last night and as of now, I'm giving it a two thumbs up. I didn't even have to configure my mattress to make it firmer, either. I like the more stable feel of this pad compared to the way latex feels under my body. It didn't feel jiggly-bouncy or marshmallow-squishy like latex and memory foam do. It just felt "right there". I think my body prefers the feel of HR PU foam on its back vs. latex and memory foam. And, it's not so thick that it caused me to sink in too much. I also liked the fact that it didn't feel like a separate topper. Instead, it felt like it was part of my mattress. And having a King size is nice to lay over our two XL Twin mattresses to tie it together even more. I put my CuddleBed Ultimate fiber mattress topper over it. What a great combination!

So, I'm going to keep it on and see how it goes. I wonder if Carpenter stands behind its claim that this pad won't go flat. Must be the Omalon which is used in rug pads. I can handle that!

Also, the smell of it coming out of the package didn't bother me at all. It doesn't have that nasty, toxic odor that I find with memory foam. But, I realize some people are more sensitive than others.
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Re: Have you tried the Dream Coil topper yet?
Reply #11 Mar 2, 2008 10:05 PM
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BeddyBye wrote:
Well, I needed to change the sheets today so I went ahead and put the Carpenter Dream Coil topper on. I'm not sure if my side of the bed will be too soft for it, but I'll find out tonight. My husband's configuration is a bit firmer and might be a better match. We'll see!

The inside of his mattress is from the bottom up:


LuraFlex coils surrounded by a high density firm PU foam edge

55 ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
45 ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
44 ILD talalay latex 1 inch

Zippered quilted cover with fiberfil


My mattress:

LuraFlex coils surrounded by high density firm PU edge

55ILD 3/4" HR PU foam
32 ILD talalay latex 1 inch
32 ILD talalay latex 1 inch

Zippered quilted cover with fiberfil

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I'll see how it goes tonight and I may just exchange a 32 ILD latex for a 44 ILD and leave the 55 ILD PU foam in as the base. Or I could do the same configuration as my husband's, but would prefer to stay with 2" of latex if I can. I'll report back.

By the way, what type of feel would I get if I were to put the 44 ILD on TOP of the 32 ILD latex, as opposed to the other way around? I know Lynn might have mentioned doing it that way.


Wow, your husband's bed must be like a rock! That would kill me. (Glad to know another couple who have twins side by side as we do. I think people think it's weird but my wife has restless leg syndrome AND is always hot where I am always cold, so sleeping in the same bed with the same covers just doesn't work for us.)

As to the feel of the 44ILD on top of the 32 ILD, I found that sometimes this type of combination can improve the feel. The guy at flobeds years ago had us try something like this. It's worth a try.

The CuddleBed Ultimate fiber mattress  you speak of - it appears to not be available at CostCo any more. But  this one says it is polyester filled- is that the same thing you have?  http://tinyurl.com/yvdocm

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