Having trouble with DIY mattress. *sigh*
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Well, i *thought* i'd 'beat the system' and gotten a great set up for less money, but i'm not sure it's agreeing with me. Last night i put this configuration together: LUX-HQ (3") HD36-HQ (3") HD36 eggcrate (1 1/2 ") Sensus MF (1")-----Newly added! supersoft eggcrate (1 1/2 ") FBM soft latex (1")----Newly added! CuddleBed------Newly added! Well, it certainly felt nice and soft and 'cushy' after adding the new layers. I thought i had gotten it right! But, alas, i woke in the middle of the night HOT, and feeling like i was SINKING too much. Argggh! I then put my spring mattress on top of it, and slept more comfortably. So, either it's too hard (before), or it's too soft (after). Today, i removed the memory foam and LUX-HQ...I'm pretty sure i don't have enough base, now (only 4 1/2 inches of HD36 foam (including eggcrate), with 1" latex, 1 1/2 supersoft foam, and CuddleBed on top), but i thought i'd remove some firmness so i wouldn't need the memory foam. I don't know. My innerspring mattress is still hovering, ready to be placed on top of it again tonight. *sigh*! I think there is something to the idea of the *whole* mattress moving when a part of your body moves, on an innerspring. For example, on a foam mattress your back might dip a bit , but it's isolated, and thus puts more strain on it. On a spring, the rest of your body moves slightly with it, alleviating strain. I may be totally making this up, though...;) I really do like innerspring mattresses, but they're just not good with motion transfer. And i do like the feel of the latex...Would love to feel 6" of it, but reluctant to spend the $ in case i have to return it (shipping and 25% restocking charge is harsh!). Maybe the LUX base with HD36-HQ (6" total) plus 4 or 5" of latex from FBM would do it? Wish they had free returns. I just can't afford an expensive latex mattress right now. Also thinking about Otis Beds, quality mattresses with 2.0 and 2.5 density foams, which are supposed to hold up very well, maybe have some cushion and don't sleep hot? I know i'm rambling, and Sager would probably have a field day with my 'post-analysis', but...as Jimsocal knows, sometimes there's a lot of trial and error here. If anyone sees a good solution amidst all this, please let me know! Thanks for all the knowledge and helpfulness here in the forum, and for putting up with my craziness!! |
Re: Having trouble with DIY mattress. *sigh*
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electracat wrote: Well, i *thought* i'd 'beat the system' and gotten a great set up for less money, but i'm not sure it's agreeing with me. Last night i put this configuration together: LUX-HQ (3") HD36-HQ (3") HD36 eggcrate (1 1/2 ") Sensus MF (1")-----Newly added! supersoft eggcrate (1 1/2 ") FBM soft latex (1")----Newly added! CuddleBed------Newly added! Well, it certainly felt nice and soft and 'cushy' after adding the new layers. I thought i had gotten it right! But, alas, i woke in the middle of the night HOT, and feeling like i was SINKING too much. Argggh! I then put my spring mattress on top of it, and slept more comfortably. So, either it's too hard (before), or it's too soft (after). Today, i removed the memory foam and LUX-HQ...I'm pretty sure i don't have enough base, now (only 4 1/2 inches of HD36 foam (including eggcrate), with 1" latex, 1 1/2 supersoft foam, and CuddleBed on top), but i thought i'd remove some firmness so i wouldn't need the memory foam. I don't know. My innerspring mattress is still hovering, ready to be placed on top of it again tonight. *sigh*! I think there is something to the idea of the *whole* mattress moving when a part of your body moves, on an innerspring. For example, on a foam mattress your back might dip a bit , but it's isolated, and thus puts more strain on it. On a spring, the rest of your body moves slightly with it, alleviating strain. I may be totally making this up, though...;) I really do like innerspring mattresses, but they're just not good with motion transfer. And i do like the feel of the latex...Would love to feel 6" of it, but reluctant to spend the $ in case i have to return it (shipping and 25% restocking charge is harsh!). Maybe the LUX base with HD36-HQ (6" total) plus 4 or 5" of latex from FBM would do it? Wish they had free returns. I just can't afford an expensive latex mattress right now. Also thinking about Otis Beds, quality mattresses with 2.0 and 2.5 density foams, which are supposed to hold up very well, maybe have some cushion and don't sleep hot? I know i'm rambling, and Sager would probably have a field day with my 'post-analysis', but...as Jimsocal knows, sometimes there's a lot of trial and error here. If anyone sees a good solution amidst all this, please let me know! Thanks for all the knowledge and helpfulness here in the forum, and for putting up with my craziness!!
LUX-HQ (3") All that eggcrate sounds like a problem to me. Add the MF under the latex layer if you need more softness, or better yet another inch of latex. My 2 cents. Bill |
Re: Having trouble with DIY mattress. *sigh*
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Ecat, I would have looked at your configuration - your original one, per this post - and said, "hmm, looks like too much soft foam on top to me". Not that I'm right, but that woudl have been my best guess. I think your basic 6" core is fine, you just need to find the right 2-3" on top. (That is IF it isn't that, like some of us have found, what you really need is Springs under 3" or so of foam...) I like the idea of just the latex on top, then MAYBE just a very thin layer of soft foam on top or under that. As for hotness, have you thought of trying the wool topper idea? Although the cuddle bed makes the mattress look nice, I am not entirely sure but that maybe it doesn't add some hotness and add more unnecessary softness. At times I have taken mine off and felt it was better for it (though Now I've at least temporarily added it back). Here where I live it's BEEN hot but I don't really feel that the foam makes it that much hotter. I could be wrong. I love having my wool topper on top instead of the cuddle bed but it's a king and I need to find someone who can cut it in half and sew the 2 halves for me, for twin mattresses. |
Re: Having trouble with DIY mattress. *sigh*
| Hey ecat, let me know if you can solve the heat issue. I'm most likely going with a similar setup, LUX core (6") but I'm only going Talalay latex on top. I'm wondering if you need more latex on top which would help heat, memory foam is definitely hotter because Tal latex has the holes going through (airs better). However, you said you're trying to keep costs down so not sure if you can afford more Talalay from FBM... or you can just wait and see how mine turns out. ;-) |
Re: Having trouble with DIY mattress. *sigh*
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hi all, thanks for your kind help. Bill, do you think the eggcrate is a problem due to its softness? Yes, maybe i should try the 6" again (i have 3" base right now, with the eggcrate layers), and see how the MF and latex are on top. Wish it weren't such a pain to move around the layers. ;) I felt like maybe removing the bottom 3" of LUX gave the configuration a little needed 'give', but i'm not sure that removing the LUX is what did that...Maybe it was adding the latex and cuddlebed...hmmm Jim, i think you said in an earlier post that latex can be very hot, too. Why is it touted as the 'cooler' foam? I guess advertising... Thanks again, and i'll keep you updated on my (ever-changing) situation! |
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electracat wrote: hi all, thanks for your kind help. Bill, do you think the eggcrate is a problem due to its softness? Yes, maybe i should try the 6" again (i have 3" base right now, with the eggcrate layers), and see how the MF and latex are on top. Wish it weren't such a pain to move around the layers. ;) I felt like maybe removing the bottom 3" of LUX gave the configuration a little needed 'give', but i'm not sure that removing the LUX is what did that...Maybe it was adding the latex and cuddlebed...hmmm Jim, i think you said in an earlier post that latex can be very hot, too. Why is it touted as the 'cooler' foam? I guess advertising... Thanks again, and i'll keep you updated on my (ever-changing) situation! Hi ecat, I did a search and read that someone who had the HD36 foam had to remove it because it broke down, so I'm going to skip it altogether. :) I'm basically going to emulate what LatencyMachine did here: http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/my-foam-mail-foam-distributing-experience/3884-0-1.html But instead of the 2" HD36 I'm going to make that up with an extra inch in Lux (6 inches vs his 5) and another inch in medium Talalay (3 vs his 2). May go with something different from the cuddlebed but I've been hearing great things all around so may just bite the bullet and get that. :) |
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So you're going to go with the latex/LUX set-up? I look forward to hearing how it goes!! I'm thinking that latex may be the foam i like best right now...I would love to get a few more layers, but right now am a bit reluctant to buy stuff i can't return (already have spent cash for a bed that may not work out!). But we'll see... Please let us know how it goes! |