heartless mattress manufacturers
Oct 25, 2009 6:23 PM
Joined: Oct 25, 2009
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Hello, I first joined this forum a couple of years ago. I posted about my Spring Air all latex mattress that collapsed, because they lied and it had about 3 inches of cheap PU foam in between the layers of latex. In the past two years I have been through 7 mattresses. All but 2 have been defective.Tomorrow I am about to receive my 8th. This is my 3rd Simmons beautyrest in a little over a year. The last two have been double layered coil and the top layer slid off. I am limited in what I can exchange for, so I opted for a different type of  Beautyrest World Class. This one has only a single layer of coils. I am at my wits end. I hope this one lasts. My husband and I settled on this type of coil system because it offers me the same type of support that latex does. He could not stand the feel of the latex under him, but I need some pressure point relief. The moral of this story is, no matter how nice your salesman is (and this store has been terrific) the manufaturers are producing cheap crap and they know it. To charge the ridiculous prices for these beds is a crime (or should be).

 I appreciate this forum so much. You all have been helpful and have given me so much to think about. I have learned alot. Our next bed will be two seperate mattresses, and neither of them will be a major "S brand". I only hope I can get at least a few good years out of this one before I need to go that route. Thanks for listening

Re: heartless mattress manufacturers
Reply #2 Oct 25, 2009 8:33 PM
Joined: Oct 25, 2009
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Thanks for the thought, Eagle2. My husband, who is too wonderful for words, can't take it. He would sleep on a slab of granite if he could. Thus, we will eventually end up with seperate mattresses. I will go for latex (flobed or savvy rest) and he will go for Royal Pedic innerspring and cotton super firm. He is 6'4" of solid man, I am 5'4" of fibro and other issues. Since we are stuck for now with what the furniture store carries, we opted for marshall coils and some padding with a topper on my side only. If we can get a couple of years out of this one, it will be moved to the guest room and we will move forward with our plans.

I am just so disgusted with the quality of things these days. My parents had a latex bed for almost 30 years. They got rid of it because they moved 3000 miles and it was just too heavy to transport without great expense. I have enjoyed reading about the "mattress surgeries" on this forum, and I think folks here have come up with innovative and clever ideas to deal with many of the problems faced when looking for a good nights sleep.

I remember when many people slept in water beds. what ever happened that these beds fell out of popularity? I seem to remember most people loved them.

Re: heartless mattress manufacturers
Reply #3 Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM
Joined: Aug 17, 2009
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HappyWife: I have an ongoing thread regarding my FlowBeds purchase here,  http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/just-bought-new-flobeds/6556-0-1.html

I think you will find quite a bit of information about my experience, and other folks experiences as well.

Hopefully you will come up with something that is satisfactory for you, and your well-built husband.

I know what you mean regarding the quality of mattresses today. It seems that the mattress manufacturers, (who have known this for a long time but for whatever reason did not exercise it), are quite aware of the fact that they can hide just about anything inside of a pretty cover, pile some layers of something soft on top of some springs, and you have a mattress. I think a lot of it started with the pillow top non-flippable mattresses. Sprinkle in some greed, and pressure from their competitors, and you have the frustrating consumer experience, as regards mattresses, that we have today.

I wish you the very best of luck in your comfortable mattress quest. I know I am enjoying my FlowBeds a great deal.
This message was modified Oct 25, 2009 by eagle2
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Reply #4 Oct 26, 2009 12:38 AM
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What about a Tempurpedic?  If he doesn't like the feel of latex, maybe a Tempurpedic would be a good compromise.  Would probably last a lot longer than you 7 mattresses :O, could give you some relief from your fibro, and hubby might like it too . . .
Re: heartless mattress manufacturers
Reply #5 Oct 26, 2009 11:39 AM
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Tempurpedic was our first try. No defects, but after almost 2 weeks of migraines and vomiting, I called and had it taken away. I found out that about 10% of these mattresses are returned for this sensitivity and the company knows this.That is why they were willing to take it away without the 30 day trial. It is very tough to find a mattress without memory foam in it these days. After the Tempur we tried the chepo Bob's Discount Furniture latex.  Two vdifferent models, both extremely uncomfortable. They were terrific about exchanges and refunds. I did get some nice fmily room furniture from them. Then on to the Spring Air "all latex" nightmare. That was mattress number 4 and it lasted about 2 months before collapsing. The manufacturer print out neglected to mention the 3"  of convoluted PU foam in between the 2 layers of latex. The furniture store gave me an exchange no questions asked. They also got rid of that brand, which has since gone bankrupt and been taken over as "Aviaro". the service manager told me almost every one of the Spring Air latex beds they sold, was returned within a short time. Then the Beautyrest coil on coil. Very comfortable, but the top layer of coils slid off in two weeks. We figured, okay give this another shot since it is comfortable to both of us. Less than a year later, the second Beautyrest Exceptionale has the top layer of coils sliding off. Today I get my replacement. A firm Beautyrest World class with single layer coils. This will get a 2' latex topper on my side only. I am really praying that this is the one. I need to get a couple of years out of this bed, then we can spend some more money and get what we think will be the answer for us both.

 It has certainly been a learning experience. I must say, I really do not want to shop for a mattress again. It is a full time job.

Re: heartless mattress manufacturers
Reply #6 Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM
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Got my replacement Beautyrest today. I am NOT holding out high hopes for this mattress. It even looks cheaply made. I once read that the beds on the storeroom floor are made to a higher quality for sales purposes. I am starting to believe it.
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Reply #7 Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM
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I read this once, too.  I believe someone on this forum once said they worked for a mattress store and it was the case that the floor models were built differently/better.  If so, there's a good case for buying the floor model :)

It's a shame the mattress companies have all gone this way, replacing quality with cheap materials.  When I stripped my 15 year old mattress in preparation for getting the new Flobed, I took a moment to read the label on my old Simmons.  It was called a "Lincoln Luxury" and at the time it was a pocketed coil mattress with WOOL padding . . . not foam.  I had several people tell me it was the most comfortable mattress they'd ever slept in, and over 15 years it was a dream.  It really was only in the last 2 years or so the mattress just wore out.  And, 15 years ago, it cost us all of $800 . . . for the mattress and foundation set.  If we could have purchased another "Lincoln Luxury" we would have!

I hope this next mattress works out.  Let us know!  If it doesn't, and if a latex or Tempurpedic mattress just isn't in the cards for you, you might want to look into one of the firms that still builds mattresses to quality standards.

I bought my first latex bed from Custom Comfort, an independent mattress company.  Although I returned the latex bed in favor of a Flobed, this in no way reflects on the company or the quality of the mattresses.  They build everything the way mattresses are supposed to be built, with quality coils and COTTON and WOOL padding, no PU foam.  Some models have latex or memory foam on top, but not all models.  There's a movie on their website that shows exactly how thier mattresses are constructed and what goes into them.  www.customcomfort.com.  The prices are about the same as for the "S" brands.

There's another company out there that builds mattresses the right way . .  . Icame across it while doing my research .  ..but I just can't remember the name.  With a little research you may be able to find it.  I'm thinking it's . . .  . a Swedish mattress manufacturer?  I could be wrong.
This message was modified Oct 27, 2009 by KimberlyH
Re: heartless mattress manufacturers
Reply #8 Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM
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Thanks Kim.

 Just as an aside, I know that Simmons is in the middle of a bankruptcy. So now, they are not even putting the Simmons Beautyrest medalion on the end sof their beds anymore. Pretty sad, they are ready to just walk away and not be responsible for the product. The law tags and info tags all state the Simmons name, but no more are they declaring themselves loud and clear on the end of the bed. This mattress was manufatured in the Agawam Ma. facility on Oct. 21, 2009. I think the fact that they will not happily declare their own product for all to seesays alot about the company.

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Reply #9 Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM
Joined: Oct 11, 2009
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Kimberly - maybe the Swedish bed you're thinking of is the "Dux Bed' by Duxiana? 

http://www.duxbed.com/
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Reply #10 Oct 27, 2009 1:15 PM
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For those who are interested read this epinions about the DUX bed.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Duxiana_Mattress/content_38223777412

Just be sure to take everything you read on the Internet with more than a grain of salt.
This message was modified Oct 27, 2009 by eagle2
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Reply #11 Oct 27, 2009 4:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure I wasn't thinking of the Duxiana.  I just can't put my finger on the name of the mattress manufacturer.  Upon further thought, I'm now thinking it was an american company.

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