How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Jul 13, 2011 5:28 PM
Location: L.A. area
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While it's not a "cure all", and does not work for everyone nor for anyone every time, these are some tips that work for me sometimes:

1) Stretch before bed. I stretch right before I get in bed, putting my hands way up high and leaning slightly backwards. I may also lean all the way forward. Do it slow and easy, don't take the chance of throwing anything out!

2) Do some twists. I stand with my elbows pointing out to my sides, try to keep my spine straight and twist gently from side to side. Start out rather slow and gentle then increase the range. I often get my back to "crack" (i.e. as in a chiropractic adjustment) by doing this. I also do this throughout the day when I think of it or when I feel stressed or have been sitting for a long while

3) Roll your shoulders forward and backward, first forward then backward or vice versa. Again, I get a lot of "cracking" sounds by doing this. I am pretty sure it's good for me. YMMV.

4) If you are a tosser and turner, as I am, and you wake up during the night, straighten your body and stretch and adjust your pillow

5) Maybe this should be #1: MAKE SURE YOUR PILLOW IS NOT TOO HIGH NOR TOO SHORT for proper support of your neck. For a long time I was sleeping with a pillow too thin for my neck. I think many of these memory foam and latex pillows are indeed too low/short/thin and cause back pain. I finally went to Ross Dress For Less and bought a regular old polyfill pillow for about $8 (usually $20 or so) and that is working much better than the expensive latex or Tempurpedic pillows I had used before. Note: Don't be afraid to open it up and take the polyfill out if it is indeed too high or tall for your neck, then sew it closed again.

6) I am not a doctor and cannot prescribe medication but I can tell you what works for me: Sometimes I take herbs from Puritan.com called Calm Tabs. (I am not affiliated with Puritan.com in any way.) They are a mixture of various relaxing herbs and the regular dose is 4 tabs but I usually take just 2 at night before I go to bed. I also take benadryl for my allergies and I find that taking them at night helps me sleep and also helps keep me from getting sore throats from drainage during the night. I also use Valerian caps sometimes, though usually I prefer the Calm Tabs above and don't take both at once though doing so probably wouldn't hurt me. When I use Valerian I use the standardized extract.

Melatonin is not only good for helping you sleep, but also good for extending one's life and being more healthy according to the Life Extension Foundation and others. However, it gives some people nightmares or very odd vivid dreams and I am one of those so I don't like to take it. It does not seem to have this effect on everyone. They recommend starting with a very low dose like 250mcg and then adjusting upwards as needed. Some people sell 5-10 mg doses but that's a LOT so be aware that 250mcg or 1/4 of 1mg works for some people and most experts recommend using the lowest dose needed.

I find that by using these methods I am getting a higher percentage of decent nights' sleep.

Still having issues and always trying to tweak my mattress, always looking for the best mattress or mattress configuration... but in general these tips have helped me a lot.

I also believe - though I am not a good practitioner of this - that regular exercise and meditation and/or yoga will also help you sleep.

Note that experts also say that drinking at night can cause problems with sleep. But I can't verify that, as I find a drink or two at night helps me unwind from a stressful day. wink

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #6 Jul 20, 2011 12:40 AM
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DoreenA wrote:

Firm definitely doesn't work for me either. When I tried to sleep on my new one as is, I also woke up with both shoulders aching, pins and needles in one arm, and sore hips. But after trying out a pillowtop (which I loved) only to have it start sagging in the middle within 5 weeks,(!!) I wanted something that would last a little longer.

 

Now that I have two different kinds of toppers on the firm, it's deliciously soft and cushy, and I'm hoping the bed won't start sagging prematurely. I think firm beds are very good for back sleepers, certainly not for a stomach sleeper like me.


DoreenA, what kind of toppers did you end up getting? Pardon me if you already wrote about that - I didn't see it, if you did. Glad you are happy with your solution!

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #7 Jul 20, 2011 2:42 AM
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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DoreenA wrote:

Now that I have two different kinds of toppers on the firm, it's deliciously soft and cushy, and I'm hoping the bed won't start sagging prematurely. I think firm beds are very good for back sleepers, certainly not for a stomach sleeper like me.

I find that a firm mattress is great for stomach sleeping.  I try not to sleep on my stomach and I don't think I sleep very long on my stomach but I like to lay on my stomach when trying to fall asleep.  If the mattress sags in the middle, my back sags and it hurts.  With a firm mattress, I don't have this problem.  But then again, I am unable to sleep on my back on anything but the couch.  If I lay on a floor on my back, it really hurts.

Go figure!

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #8 Jul 20, 2011 10:40 AM
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^^ If I lay on the floor on my back, it immediately starts hurting too. When I tried lying on my mattress on my back it felt just right, with even support all over, but I can't sleep that way and trying to sleep on my stomach was absolute torture. To me it was like lying on the ground. Give me a flat pillow and a soft bed and I"m happy!

 

 

@weewillywinky - Thanks for asking. My solution was not what I planned.sad It's the second to last post on this thread.

http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/too-firm-mattress-latex-topper/19572-0-1.html

jimsocal, don't mean to hijack your thread but wanted to reply to WWW!

This message was modified Jul 20, 2011 by DoreenA
Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #9 Jul 20, 2011 2:01 PM
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jimsocal wrote:

Note that experts also say that drinking at night can cause problems with sleep. But I can't verify that, as I find a drink or two at night helps me unwind from a stressful day. wink


I've found this to be true with a drink or two - it almost always helps me fall asleep. Sometimes it seems I sleep through the night better. Spirits are better than beer, since you dont have to sacrifice as much bladder space.smiley

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #10 Jul 24, 2011 5:05 AM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
Points: 1161
DoreenA wrote:

Firm definitely doesn't work for me either. When I tried to sleep on my new one as is, I also woke up with both shoulders aching, pins and needles in one arm, and sore hips. But after trying out a pillowtop (which I loved) only to have it start sagging in the middle within 5 weeks,(!!) I wanted something that would last a little longer.

 

Now that I have two different kinds of toppers on the firm, it's deliciously soft and cushy, and I'm hoping the bed won't start sagging prematurely. I think firm beds are very good for back sleepers, certainly not for a stomach sleeper like me.


Let me clarify. I never said to sleep on a firm mattress. (I don't think I ever said that!)

What I think I said was that when buying an S Co. mattress, to buy a firm one, that way you can put an inch or two of latex toppers on it as opposed to buying a pillow top which is just going to be full of lousy pu foam. Also if you need to do mattress surgery a firmer matress is a) cheaper, and b) less filled with pu foam so it makes a better base for your quality toppers.

So, to be clear, what I am saying is that if you buy an S Co mattress, buy one that is firm or "cushion firm" and that way you will not have a lot of pu foam in it and you are more likely to be able to adjust it by using a layer or two of latex on top. Then, if that still doesn't work, you can cut it open and take off the layer or two of pu foam in it and put your latex in its place.

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #11 Jul 24, 2011 10:38 AM
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Yes, I understood exactly what you said jimsocal, which is to use the firm bed as a starting point. That's what made the lightbulb over my head switch on in an "Aha!" moment.

 It's just that when I got this firm mattress (which I swear was firmer than the one I tried in the store) I had nothing at the time to put on it since Overstock messed up on the latex topper I ordered. While waiting to find a topper, I did try sleeping on the mattress as it was, just to see how it would feel.

Re: How to get a better night's sleep even if your mattress is causing problems
Reply #12 Jul 24, 2011 12:53 PM
Joined: Apr 15, 2011
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DoreenA wrote:

^^ If I lay on the floor on my back, it immediately starts hurting too. When I tried lying on my mattress on my back it felt just right, with even support all over, but I can't sleep that way and trying to sleep on my stomach was absolute torture. To me it was like lying on the ground. Give me a flat pillow and a soft bed and I"m happy!

 

 

 

@weewillywinky - Thanks for asking. My solution was not what I planned.sad It's the second to last post on this thread.

http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/too-firm-mattress-latex-topper/19572-0-1.html

jimsocal, don't mean to hijack your thread but wanted to reply to WWW!

Thanks, DoreenA! That's great! Now back to our regularly scheduled programming....