Latex is much firmer then in the store
Jan 13, 2011 8:21 PM
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Help! I finally broke down and got a Talalay Nature 10" latex Bliss foam mattress at Sleepy's which I have wanted for a long time. I thought the 11" was very soft but online it shows the 11" as medium and the 10" as plush. I tried the 10" and it felt plush so thats what I went with. I am very disappointed because it's very firm. I have a bad shoulder and I cannot sleep on my side at all. Will it soften over time?  Is it worth it to buy the 3" latex  topper?  What's the point of spending so much on a mattress if you have to put a topper on it? Couldn't I have bought a  regular mattress and put a latex topper on it with the same result? Will sheets fit with the topper?  At the store they told me at first that the mattress would feel the same over time and the same as in the store, but now they say it will soften over time. I'm not sure what to think.

Thanks

Re: Latex is much firmer then in the store
Reply #4 Jan 13, 2011 9:52 PM
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The pure latex bliss toppers are just as much "latex" as the mattress and are designed to be used as part of an overall latex mattress construction to customize a mattress to an individual. It is a "European" type of design philosophy and the toppers are an integral part of the overall latex mattress construction. In North America ... we don't tend to think of a topper as part of a mattress (we expect to get all one piece) but it is more common there and a much more flexible way to buy a mattress. Check on prices though because the toppers are less in some places than others ... for example here they are less than Sleepy's.

I am guessing that a 2" topper on top of the Nature would be more "supportive" for you than other options because of the x-firm layer and may be your best choice if your actual experience confirms this.

Phoenix

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Re: Latex is much firmer then in the store
Reply #5 Jan 13, 2011 10:03 PM
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If your mattress is firm... as you describe... you should be able to make it sleepable with 3-4 inches of 1 inch layers with which you can experiment.  But  yes.. it is a waste to have your expensive "mattress" ( 10 inch slab of expensive latex or part base... ) be performing the function of "springs" from my cheap mattress ($500).  But if you cannot return it and don't want so start from scratch... you can at least fix this.

Shovel,

I have to stongly disagree with you here. An extra 3-4" of latex would give them 5-6" of soft latex and would almost certainly create alignment issues. While the Pure latex bliss may not be as inexpensive as a "design your own layer" mattress that are very common here ... they can actually offer more flexibility than most of the "standardized" layering approaches and are very well thought out in their diversity. They have already done most of the "experimenting" in other words. Returning it to "start over" with exactly the same material (PLB uses latex international Talalay and are a subsidiary of LI) and to go back to an "experimental" approach would almost certainly cost them more in money, time, and possible pain.

Phoenix

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Re: Latex is much firmer then in the store
Reply #6 Jan 13, 2011 10:09 PM
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Thanks for all the info and the site with the toppers. Now I can try to get Sleepy's to match the price, if not, shipping's free I'll just have to wait a little longer! Thanks again for the help. 
Re: Latex is much firmer then in the store
Reply #7 Jan 13, 2011 10:20 PM
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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I forgot to mention that I also wanted the Latex because of the adjustable bed which I wanted for reflux. I felt it would be better then a regular mattress on the adjustable and has a 20 year warranty. I'm good at haggling and got them down about $1000.00 from where they started for both in full size. Crazy huh?

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