Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Sep 8, 2010 4:01 PM
Joined: Sep 8, 2010
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Hi All~

I apologize if this is a redundant post, but I tried searching for similiar topics and found it a bit overwhelming to try to find answers to all my questions that way. 

So here I go.....

About 4 years ago I pieced together my own component memory foam mattress and I have really loved it until now.

I have noticed lately a few dips and a hump in the bed, and so has my SO.  We finally unzipped it last night and took a good look.  The 2" top layer of Sensus has our body indentations in it already.  I have rotated and flipped the pieces a few times during its lifespan, so I was surprised to discover this.  I was suspecting one of the cheap PU bases was the culprit.  I have to wonder if I got a bad, or authentic Sensus piece????

Here's my set-up:  2" of Sensus, 1.5" of eggcrate Sensus {pointed side facing down}, 3" of PU base foam, and 3" of firmer PU foam.  I have forgotten the ILDS of the PU bases now, but they were purchased from JC Penney at the time.  Also, the cover for this whole thing is 10" high.

Since the Sensus fatigued so quickly I am considering a 2" latex topper now to replace it in the same set-up.

We both weigh between 135 -170 lbs.  We both sleep on our tummies and backs.  He occasionally on his side too.

I have a bad back/neck, shoulder, and sacroiliac joints.  Right now my sacroiliacs/hips are really flared up and I believe it's the mattress causing this.

I am looking for the most affordable way to meet my needs.  I don't mind spending a little more if it will really make a difference.

I was thinking of going with 2 1" layers of different ILD latex toppers.  I figure I can switch them out to get the right firmness.  My local store sells 20, 26, and 37 ILD of Dunlop.  I am curious if combining them {the 20 and the 26 toppers specifically} this way will not yield the same ILD of the very top piece?  Or will it feel more like a combination of the two toppers instead?  Would it be better to just get the 20 or 26 ILD 2" topper instead?

Also, I would like to hear from people who have had both memory foam mattresses and latex and what they prefer and why.

I know I can just go out and replace the topper with another 2" pad of Sensus and keep things the same.  I am wondering though if I can improve the mattress now, and make it more durable as well.

Thanks in advance for all thoughts and opinions.

Lisa {Sleepless in St. Louis}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #2 Sep 8, 2010 5:15 PM
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I agree with Diane on this.  The dunlop toppers will feel a lot different (firmer) than the 2" of Sensus.   You are right that memory foam will not last as long as latex, but if you got 4 years out of that is not too bad.  If replacing that with a new piece solved your problem, then that would probably be the best way to go.   Overstock is cheap, but they were not able to confirm to me who makes it for them (it is 5lb density, so it might be the real thing). I believe Rockymountain mattress and absolutecomfortonsale sell Foamex made Sensus.

If you want latex, probably blended 14ILD talalay would be the closest in terms of firmness to the Sensus.  Even that will have a bit of different feel due to the inherent differences.  Memory foam actually is pretty good for many people in terms of comfort and pressure point reduction.

Where did you buy eggcrate Sensus?  Are you sure that your other foams are okay?  It is possible that they are contributing to the problem as well, but the signs might not be visible.  Lay on it with the 2" Sensus to see how it feels. 

Latex is probably best at the base levels that provide firmness and support.  It can work well at the comfort levels as well if you like the feel vs. memory foam. 

You probably were able to piece your mattress together at a reasonble cost, but the downside will be longevity.  A lot of it may have to be replaced every 3-5 years or so. 

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #3 Sep 8, 2010 7:22 PM
Location: Mequon, WI
Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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I have never heard of eggcrate Sensus.  That could easily be fake and/or causing your problems.  I would be surprised if authentic Sensus failed in 4 years.  Latex feels totally different than Sensus.  However if you want to get close you can buy 14 ILD Latex International latex.  It will have a similar softness but a different feeling.  Not saying it is a bad feeling, just different.  Latex of any higher ILD will not even come close to Sensus.

Try taking out the eggcrate "sensus" for a night and see if it feels better.

FWIW I have owned authentic Sensus and 14 ILD Latex International blended latex in the past.  Both are excellent products.  Make sure you buy from reputable sources.  I also currently own Sensus from overstock.com and in my opinion it is authentic.

Good luck to you.

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #4 Sep 8, 2010 7:43 PM
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Thanks for the responses.

I found the eggcrate Sensus online.  I purchased it about 4 years ago from a brick-and-mortar mattress store in Tennessee somewhere.  I have since forgotten the name, or exact city.  At that time though I recall seeing other online sellers of the same, but his prices were the best.  The foam feels and looks the same as the 2" topper Sensus.  I haven't seen it since I purchased it again, but I haven't had a reason to look either.

My SO and I went through each component of my mattress last night.  We could actually see our indentations in the Sensus topper once the cover was removed.  We took off one layer at a time and laid on it again for a while in different sleep positions.  Once the topper was removed, we noticed the sag and hump were indeed gone.  We continued on though investigating since I wanted to make sure no other piece needed replacing at this time as well.  The eggcrate piece has held up well.  I was surprised since I had originally thought when I bought it that it would 'prolly be the first to wear out due to the points.

I went the memory foam route because I had discovered the Tempurpedic line at Brookstones one day while at the mall.  I attempted to copy the bed there that felt the most comfortable to me from Tempurpedic's website and graphics of their mattresses.  I achieved a pretty close feel for a fraction of the cost.

I never knew about latex beds either back then.  I only went this path due to ignorance of other options.  So I can't help but to wonder if I can indeed improve the set-up with latex somehow.  I have loved the mattress, yes, but that's because it is SO much better than my old innerspring ones.  Also, I am thinking I may save money in the long run as well since all the websites claim that latex will last almost forever.

So, I am still curious about my other questions in regard to the latex toppers and peoples experiences with both.  Like, how do they feel different actually?  Support, etc?

Thanks Again,

Lisa {Sleepless in St. Louis}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #5 Sep 8, 2010 8:07 PM
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"So, I am still curious about my other questions in regard to the latex toppers and peoples experiences with both.  Like, how do they feel different actually?  Support, etc?"

Latex pushes back, memory foam does not.  Memory foam moves away from pressure, whereas latex, after the first deflection will start to push back.  Higher density MF, like Sensus, provides good support in addition to pressure relieft, lower density MF provides less (4lb) and sometimes no support (3 lb).  I don't know how else to describe it.  I think if you are seriously looking at latex, you need to go to a showroom and lie on a latex bed, then go lie on a MF foam right after to appreciate the different feel.  Our trying to explain it in words isn't going to cut it.

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #6 Sep 8, 2010 9:34 PM
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MequonJim wrote:

I have never heard of eggcrate Sensus.  That could easily be fake and/or causing your problems.  I would be surprised if authentic Sensus failed in 4 years.  Latex feels totally different than Sensus.  However if you want to get close you can buy 14 ILD Latex International latex.  It will have a similar softness but a different feeling.  Not saying it is a bad feeling, just different.  Latex of any higher ILD will not even come close to Sensus.

 

Try taking out the eggcrate "sensus" for a night and see if it feels better.

FWIW I have owned authentic Sensus and 14 ILD Latex International blended latex in the past.  Both are excellent products.  Make sure you buy from reputable sources.  I also currently own Sensus from overstock.com and in my opinion it is authentic.

Good luck to you.

Jim, it would be nice to know for sure who makes the Sensus foam for Overstock.  On the their website they now call it "Comfort Dreams Sensus"   I am not sure why they aren't willing to use the Foamex name, and when I called they could not tell me who makes it.  On the Foamex website, they seem to emphasize the Aerus brand, and Sensus seems to be something they continue on a limited basis.  Since Overstock uses the Sensus name (which must be trademarked) I assume they have the permission of Foamex.  So, either Foamex makes it, or they liscensed it to someone else to make (possibly the same process and quality).  

Foamex seems to be a weird company that does not exploit their product line very well.  Maybe because they have been through bankrupcy recently.

I guess it doesn't really matter if the quality is good, but it would be nice to know if their is a difference based on where you buy it.
 

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #7 Sep 9, 2010 11:53 AM
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Thanks again for the responses.

I decided to just purchase the Sensus again from RMM.  I like Overstock prices better, but the cut of the pad is a few inches short both ways? 

Anyone noticing any issues with the short cut size from Overstock?  I would sure like to save a few bucks if the inches weren't missed at all.... Comments before I pull the trigger here....

As an FYI for everyone elses:  I had a phone conversation today with Todd from a mattress manufacturing company in NC about my Sensus fatiguing so quickly.  He immediately asked me about the cover type I was using over my components.  He felt perhaps our sweat/moisture had caused the deterioration.  I have to agree.  I have hot flashes if I even just look at the sun and my partner is always on the warmer side of things.

Lisa

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #8 Sep 9, 2010 12:00 PM
Location: Mequon, WI
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I have the 1" Sensus from Overstock.  I ordered a King and it does not seem small in any dimension.  Maybe I got lucky, I don't know if others got short pads or not.
Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #9 Sep 9, 2010 12:18 PM
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I'm looking at the Full Size for myself.

Standard full typically measures 54x75. 

 

The Overstock Sensus pad {from their website ad} 

Dimensions:

  • Twin: 37 inches wide x 72 inches long x 1 inch thick
  • Twin XL: 37 inches wide x 77 inches long x 1 inch thick
  • Full: 51 inches wide x 72 inches long x 1 inch thick
  • Queen: 58 inches wide x 77 inches long x 1 inch thick
  • King: 76 inches wide x 77 inches long x 1 inch thick
  • Cal King: 70 inches wide x 80 inches long x 1 inch thick

It would be good for me to know if your pad was a true King size, or the size as advertised.  If it is a few inches short, I guess you aren't noticing it then?

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #10 Sep 9, 2010 12:21 PM
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I also just ordered this: http://www.mattresssafe.com/KleenCover-Classic-p/ef-classic.htm

I spoke with them on the phone for more info about the product.  It is a soft polyester material with a laminate backing.  No crinkly sounds though as with plastic/vinyl.  It really is 50% off as well.  I have no connection with them either.  Just frugal.

Thought I would pass on the savings for whomever may need this to the forum.

Re: Latex Versus Memory Foam Advice Needed
Reply #11 Sep 9, 2010 2:16 PM
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mydogsowner wrote:

 

 

 

Thanks again for the responses.

 

I decided to just purchase the Sensus again from RMM.  I like Overstock prices better, but the cut of the pad is a few inches short both ways? 

Anyone noticing any issues with the short cut size from Overstock?  I would sure like to save a few bucks if the inches weren't missed at all.... Comments before I pull the trigger here....

As an FYI for everyone elses:  I had a phone conversation today with Todd from a mattress manufacturing company in NC about my Sensus fatiguing so quickly.  He immediately asked me about the cover type I was using over my components.  He felt perhaps our sweat/moisture had caused the deterioration.  I have to agree.  I have hot flashes if I even just look at the sun and my partner is always on the warmer side of things.

Lisa


My 1" queen Sensus from Overstock is actually slightly too big.  I actually wish it was a bit smaller.  I bought a differerent 4lb. memory foam from them that is the right size.  A couple inches either probably does not matter, but I would say the sizes they are representing for the queen are not accurate for what I received. 

You might want to get a wool filled mattress pad to deal with moisture and heat issues.  People love the St. Dormier (fairly expensive), but even LL Bean has some.

p.s. I just reived a sale coupon for Overstock for 7% off (promo code 152179).

p.s.s.  The charge the same price for all sizes at overstock, so you could always order a larger size and cut it down to what you want. 


 

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